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Greg Oden is trash thread...vol 1 man hacking machine
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just because people compared him to all time greats doesnt mean you have to believe them. that's your own damn fault.
a player's progression isnt dependant on the things analysts say and the comparisons they make. their expectation (and by extension, many of yours) areskewed by hype.
oden has always just played. scouts saw him and decided to compare him to greats. that doesnt mean he was going to be.
the people who thought he was going to be an offensive force obviously are the people that only read the artcles.
players, no matter how hyped, and especially big men, dont always blow up right away. especially after missing an entire season.
yao took a few years. so did jefferson and randolph, j.o. took 5.
if you actually watch him play you can easily see he's got a ton of physical talent. granted his mental game needs work, but he's doing fine.
a player's progression isnt dependant on the things analysts say and the comparisons they make. their expectation (and by extension, many of yours) areskewed by hype.
oden has always just played. scouts saw him and decided to compare him to greats. that doesnt mean he was going to be.
the people who thought he was going to be an offensive force obviously are the people that only read the artcles.
players, no matter how hyped, and especially big men, dont always blow up right away. especially after missing an entire season.
yao took a few years. so did jefferson and randolph, j.o. took 5.
if you actually watch him play you can easily see he's got a ton of physical talent. granted his mental game needs work, but he's doing fine.
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and what do those videos prove? as if you cant easily find oden erasing shots too.
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Give him time...??? Please dude is a certified "Kwame Brown bust" He's been hurt, lacks heart and desire for the hype he's gotten through outhis high school and college days...if he wanted time he should have kept his sorry @%# in college.
Put him in the NBADL maybe he can find his game there...just a suggestion.
Put him in the NBADL maybe he can find his game there...just a suggestion.
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coming of a serious knee injury, i still believe that oden can be a force, all he need to do is be patient and work on his conditioning coz i think hisconditioning has been lacking that's why he get's so many fouls and get out of position a lot.
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Aight u mgith be right, he could be a bust, but thats where the give him time thing comes in...
after a big injury and only 20 games into his career, u cant give u on dude that quick.....
lets see what happens...
if this time next year hes still a bad player, then hes a kwame brown x 2
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nah man kwame barely plays anymore
he won't be THAT bad
he won't be THAT bad
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double post
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sorry triple post
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Calling him trash or saying he's a bust might be too harsh at this point, but the OP does makes some valid points. There are rookies who are currentlyplaying at or beyond their expectations this year (as if they've been in the league for a few years already) yet Oden doesn't seem comfortable outthere most of the time he plays. He's foul-prone, clumsy and timid most of the time. Give him time sure, but he should be playing at a higher level no ifsands or buts.
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No doubt about that. Lopez in particular.
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Sorry but...thats the reputation that comes along with being a professional basketball player. If you don't live up to the standards placed upon you thenobviously the player is going to be the one to blame.
By your logic then there is no such thing as a bust...
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until he proves/shows his worth, dude's Kwame Brown 2.0
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These are the same people who said brandon Roy would never be anything more than a mid level player given the fact that after 4 years in college he had nocieling . . .right?
I've yet to see anything to believe that, given the circumstances(1 year removed from H.S., surgery that takes 2 years to recover), Oden can't one daybe a franchise center.
If you think he's gonna be a bust because you believe he'll have an injury plagued career then I have no problem with that. But some of you soundstraight up stupid using games where he got into immense foul trouble as proof or even as any sort of argument as to why Oden will be a bust. People who knowball don't make stupid proclamations like that. If he got into foul trouble every single game I'd see you but since it only happens sporadically andsince he HAS shown the ability to improve in that area I fail to see why that would ever be a major problem down the road.
Kudos to whoever posted the rookie years for other all-time great C's, I had no idea all those guys came out after their first year, I also had no idea allthose bigs were in the process of going through an injury that limits their athleticism their first year. How relevant. AGAIN, Greg is NOT the athlete now thathe will be next season, and he's still got more bounce than most bigs right now.
I'm also not willing to believe he's going to be a bust because he often plays "timid". Who gives a ###! about that @%@$@$ +$+@ you think a$*%%$@+*%!*$ like ME gives a +$+@ about a $*%%$@+*%!*$ like Greg actin timid when he's a @%@$@$ rookie that has the potential to ball the ###! out of hismind the way he did against Toronto(damn I'm an internet g . .)
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5-7 fg, 6-6 ft: 16 pts
7 off rb, 3 def rb: 10 reb
a couple blocks
There's been games that he's had where if you recorded just one and played it in front of an NBA exec he'd say "franchise center".He's also had games where that same exec would say "project at best". So anyone thinking they have any sort of crystal ball in this matter needsto pipe down, you don't know anything.
Also, before you call me biased, if anyone was willing to make a "Rudy Fernandez = Bust" thread I'd be a VERY vocal supporter. Right now thatguy's just a chucker who doesn't even attempt to get in the lane.
I've yet to see anything to believe that, given the circumstances(1 year removed from H.S., surgery that takes 2 years to recover), Oden can't one daybe a franchise center.
If you think he's gonna be a bust because you believe he'll have an injury plagued career then I have no problem with that. But some of you soundstraight up stupid using games where he got into immense foul trouble as proof or even as any sort of argument as to why Oden will be a bust. People who knowball don't make stupid proclamations like that. If he got into foul trouble every single game I'd see you but since it only happens sporadically andsince he HAS shown the ability to improve in that area I fail to see why that would ever be a major problem down the road.
Kudos to whoever posted the rookie years for other all-time great C's, I had no idea all those guys came out after their first year, I also had no idea allthose bigs were in the process of going through an injury that limits their athleticism their first year. How relevant. AGAIN, Greg is NOT the athlete now thathe will be next season, and he's still got more bounce than most bigs right now.
I'm also not willing to believe he's going to be a bust because he often plays "timid". Who gives a ###! about that @%@$@$ +$+@ you think a$*%%$@+*%!*$ like ME gives a +$+@ about a $*%%$@+*%!*$ like Greg actin timid when he's a @%@$@$ rookie that has the potential to ball the ###! out of hismind the way he did against Toronto(damn I'm an internet g . .)
28 min.
5-7 fg, 6-6 ft: 16 pts
7 off rb, 3 def rb: 10 reb
a couple blocks
There's been games that he's had where if you recorded just one and played it in front of an NBA exec he'd say "franchise center".He's also had games where that same exec would say "project at best". So anyone thinking they have any sort of crystal ball in this matter needsto pipe down, you don't know anything.
Also, before you call me biased, if anyone was willing to make a "Rudy Fernandez = Bust" thread I'd be a VERY vocal supporter. Right now thatguy's just a chucker who doesn't even attempt to get in the lane.
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This is sad some of you actually want him to fail.
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This is sad some of you actually want him to fail.
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Roy was the most NBA ready cat in that draft,
Basically... I dont know what this guy is talkin about
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the *+$# are u yacking about?
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I'll go ahead and sit this one out.
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Starters Min FG 3Pt FT Off Reb Ast TO Stl BS BA PF Pts
K. Brown 32:28 4-5 0-0 1-3 +1 3 4 0 0 1 2 0 1 9
G. Oden 12:38 2-3 0-0 0-1 -14 0 1 1 1 0 0 0 4 4
last 3 games for Oden
18 pts, 9 rebs, 12 fouls, 1 block
he still needs time
K. Brown 32:28 4-5 0-0 1-3 +1 3 4 0 0 1 2 0 1 9
G. Oden 12:38 2-3 0-0 0-1 -14 0 1 1 1 0 0 0 4 4
last 3 games for Oden
18 pts, 9 rebs, 12 fouls, 1 block
he still needs time
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dude is so trash its not even funny. u watch him play and its the same skills set as when u seen him on ESPN for his high school games. some players have ITand some players dont have IT
oden bum *+! doesnt have IT
Kwame Brown and Michael ABCDEFGHIFK will welcome u with open arms oden to the hall of big men bust
oden bum *+! doesnt have IT
Kwame Brown and Michael ABCDEFGHIFK will welcome u with open arms oden to the hall of big men bust
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Sounds a bit like my Bargnani defense.
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I told ya so
