Same here and I aint no youngster either. Kanye is more versatile to me, Rza's sound is for one city and one city only.... NYOriginally Posted by ExtRaOrDinaRy SwAg
StaXX wrote:
I'd take Kanye over RZA anyday.
I see all your points and thats what is good about music is that it is subjective and there is something out there for everyone. Appreciate the responses.Originally Posted by TheHype
1. Wha? You're just in the minority cause all those songs are ill as #@#$.Originally Posted by Jking0821
Originally Posted by swishasweets
Originally Posted by TheHype
College Dropout and Late Registration are Classics.
And Graduation was a 3.75-4/5.
Flashing Lights was one of the dopest (AND unconventional) singles/beats in the last decade.
Dudes saying KanYe West didn't innovate rap for the better...REALLY? You REALLY think that?
Yea we got skinny jeans rappers but we also got popular artists like Drake, Lupe, CuDi, and other Rap Artists that you can listen to in the car with your girl or even parents.
Everybody can't relate to 50 Cent. I dig that type of rap but I'm happy my cousins put me onto Ye when I was WAY younger. *##% mattered when I was younger.
I can't illustrate the look I had on my face the first time my dad (50 year old Jamaican cat) told me he liked "Slow Jamz"
Edit:
He wont be the G.O.A.T RAPPER, though. Just had to clarify.
Innovator, Rap tastemaker and Hip-Hop Legend seems like a better title though.
Great unbiased explanation touché
1. I don't get why late registration is considered a classic. Songs on that album that sucked : My way home, crack music, roses, bring me down, addiction, we major, celebration, gone, late.
2. Just because they had a kanye feature doesn't mean kanye made them. Lupe is on a different level then any rapper out and isn't really "popular" like the others. So his niche was created by himself not kanye. Drake was first heard thanks to Wayne not Ye. You may have an argument for Cudi but i heard day and night before i heard welcome to heartbreak (didn't buy 808s because it sucks). And if we are playing that Eminem put on 50 cent literally. Without em 50 would be nothing (power of the dollar sold so well for Sony before he signed to shady/aftermath.....). Without Ye all the other rappers you mentioned would be fine.
3. Kanye is extremely talented and i do like some of his work. But again when you talk about Greatest of all time (OF ALL TIME!!) he isn't in the top 5. When it comes down to it rapping > production. You can always find beats you can't always find lyrics.
4. Eminem is the GOAT. Kanye didn't bring anyone over to rap. He makes pop music. Eminem made it ok for every white person to listen to rap. Before em you were a %+*%!@ who wanted to be black. After em it's cool.
NT sensored reggiw (read backwards)
2. I think you misread what I meant. All those rappers weren't discovered by Kanye but he made it ok for them to be popular. They walk down his path. Of course Mos Def was one of the first rap artists to truly harmonize and make some non-bang bang shoot em up records but like I said they're actually all popular rappers.
CuDi's popular. Drake's Popular and yes Lupe is a popular artist. (Not necessarily Platinum artists but they're popular).
I can't even imagine what Mainstream Hip-Hop music would sound like without Kanye West (especially from 00-06).
3. He's not in the Top 5 rapper list but he makes better music than the typical rappers in most people's Top 5 right now.
4. That's not even relevant, because white suburban kids were/are buying rap records in bulk and still do. Em is just someone their hero. And Jay-Z's the GOAT so...
I feel that way too.Originally Posted by Jking0821
I see all your points and thats what is good about music is that it is subjective and there is something out there for everyone. Appreciate the responses.Originally Posted by TheHype
1. Wha? You're just in the minority cause all those songs are ill as #@#$.Originally Posted by Jking0821
Originally Posted by swishasweets
Originally Posted by TheHype
College Dropout and Late Registration are Classics.
And Graduation was a 3.75-4/5.
Flashing Lights was one of the dopest (AND unconventional) singles/beats in the last decade.
Dudes saying KanYe West didn't innovate rap for the better...REALLY? You REALLY think that?
Yea we got skinny jeans rappers but we also got popular artists like Drake, Lupe, CuDi, and other Rap Artists that you can listen to in the car with your girl or even parents.
Everybody can't relate to 50 Cent. I dig that type of rap but I'm happy my cousins put me onto Ye when I was WAY younger. *##% mattered when I was younger.
I can't illustrate the look I had on my face the first time my dad (50 year old Jamaican cat) told me he liked "Slow Jamz"
Edit:
He wont be the G.O.A.T RAPPER, though. Just had to clarify.
Innovator, Rap tastemaker and Hip-Hop Legend seems like a better title though.
Great unbiased explanation touché
1. I don't get why late registration is considered a classic. Songs on that album that sucked : My way home, crack music, roses, bring me down, addiction, we major, celebration, gone, late.
2. Just because they had a kanye feature doesn't mean kanye made them. Lupe is on a different level then any rapper out and isn't really "popular" like the others. So his niche was created by himself not kanye. Drake was first heard thanks to Wayne not Ye. You may have an argument for Cudi but i heard day and night before i heard welcome to heartbreak (didn't buy 808s because it sucks). And if we are playing that Eminem put on 50 cent literally. Without em 50 would be nothing (power of the dollar sold so well for Sony before he signed to shady/aftermath.....). Without Ye all the other rappers you mentioned would be fine.
3. Kanye is extremely talented and i do like some of his work. But again when you talk about Greatest of all time (OF ALL TIME!!) he isn't in the top 5. When it comes down to it rapping > production. You can always find beats you can't always find lyrics.
4. Eminem is the GOAT. Kanye didn't bring anyone over to rap. He makes pop music. Eminem made it ok for every white person to listen to rap. Before em you were a %+*%!@ who wanted to be black. After em it's cool.
NT sensored reggiw (read backwards)
2. I think you misread what I meant. All those rappers weren't discovered by Kanye but he made it ok for them to be popular. They walk down his path. Of course Mos Def was one of the first rap artists to truly harmonize and make some non-bang bang shoot em up records but like I said they're actually all popular rappers.
CuDi's popular. Drake's Popular and yes Lupe is a popular artist. (Not necessarily Platinum artists but they're popular).
I can't even imagine what Mainstream Hip-Hop music would sound like without Kanye West (especially from 00-06).
3. He's not in the Top 5 rapper list but he makes better music than the typical rappers in most people's Top 5 right now.
4. That's not even relevant, because white suburban kids were/are buying rap records in bulk and still do. Em is just someone their hero. And Jay-Z's the GOAT so...
I don't hate kanye but if he was this great artist that makes awesome music i feel like i would still be listening to his stuff. And i still listen to Reasonable Doubt Illmatic and Infinite. I think if lupe fiasco were to die today, and people actually listened and understood his music, he would be considered the best to ever do it. IMHO of course lol
You do know the bulk of wu-tangs fans are from overseas in countries like China right ?Originally Posted by LIVE BOY D
Same here and I aint no youngster either. Kanye is more versatile to me, Rza's sound is for one city and one city only.... NYOriginally Posted by ExtRaOrDinaRy SwAg
StaXX wrote:
I'd take Kanye over RZA anyday.
i think is point is you talking big game and ++%@ like you somebody
he's worse, cuz god knows how awful he really is at rapping, and yet he'll throw nothing but hate and kick dirt at all da lyricist in da rap's elite ( which is basically
he's better than pharell but not the neptunes together...
Originally Posted by OptimusPrimeAPhiA
Kanye paved the way for this brand of internet artist that is gaining popularity.
Big Seans
Lupes
Drakes
J Coles
Currensy's
Wiz's
Wales
...etc...
All of them.
Kanye made the blueprint for them to follow. Ask all of them in their interviews. From the way they carry themselves all the way the content they rap about. All Kanye influenced. This ALONE makes Kanye the most influential person of this decade if not the generation.at those that refuse to give dude credit. I remember how they hated on Yeezy coming up too... Don't be mad that we're calling it early. Yes Kanye is THAT dude. Just give up and admit it.
Originally Posted by OptimusPrimeAPhiA
Kanye paved the way for this brand of internet artist that is gaining popularity.
Big Seans
Lupes
Drakes
J Coles
Currensy's
Wiz's
Wales
...etc...
All of them.
Kanye made the blueprint for them to follow. Ask all of them in their interviews. From the way they carry themselves all the way the content they rap about. All Kanye influenced. This ALONE makes Kanye the most influential person of this decade if not the generation.at those that refuse to give dude credit. I remember how they hated on Yeezy coming up too... Don't be mad that we're calling it early. Yes Kanye is THAT dude. Just give up and admit it.
Originally Posted by OptimusPrimeAPhiA
Kanye paved the way for this brand of internet artist that is gaining popularity.
Big Seans
Lupes
Drakes
J Coles
Currensy's
Wiz's
Wales
...etc...
All of them.
Kanye made the blueprint for them to follow. Ask all of them in their interviews. From the way they carry themselves all the way the content they rap about. All Kanye influenced. This ALONE makes Kanye the most influential person of this decade if not the generation.at those that refuse to give dude credit. I remember how they hated on Yeezy coming up too... Don't be mad that we're calling it early. Yes Kanye is THAT dude. Just give up and admit it.
I will say after the Kanye vs 50 release, it paved the way in terms of attempting to make it better for alternative rappers. Wale wouldn't have existed in a more 50 dominated world.Originally Posted by OptimusPrimeAPhiA
Kanye paved the way for this brand of internet artist that is gaining popularity.
Big Seans
Lupes
Drakes
J Coles
Currensy's
Wiz's
Wales
...etc...
All of them.
Kanye made the blueprint for them to follow. Ask all of them in their interviews. From the way they carry themselves all the way the content they rap about. All Kanye influenced. This ALONE makes Kanye the most influential person of this decade if not the generation.at those that refuse to give dude credit. I remember how they hated on Yeezy coming up too... Don't be mad that we're calling it early. Yes Kanye is THAT dude. Just give up and admit it.
Curren$y & Wiz draw influences moreso from Red & Meth than Ye so forget that.
