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Originally Posted by LDJ
Originally Posted by Moe Fab
Originally Posted by LDJ
its about whether you would play with great players position yourself in a winning position. and the gold medal is a great feat, and matter fact on a global scale is regarded much higher then a nba championship. and shaq by many is considered one of the greatest bigs of all time. and before duncan many stated karl malone was one if not the best pf of all time. as far as lebron many where already stating he was one of the best aall time at his position, that talk kinda died down after the whole "decision" fiasco, which doesnt make sense considering he actually has become a better player since he left. Ppl say wilt is one of the greatest and he basically did a lebron, so did lew alcinder, granted he used the religion scapegoat but still doesnt change what he did. and all of them are considered all time greats. and how hard you play and try to improve as a player determined whether you get drafted on a great team, request for a trade to a great team, or play on a subpar mediocre team?
So are you saying ray allen, kg didnt start playing hard and giving their all until they joined boston? Kidd was just playing at 50% until he got to dallas, ..... Im just trying to understand your pov. Are you saying that puttiing as many hurdles infront of you as you can just to make it look like you overcame more makes you more of a winner, versus a person who position themselves in the best possible situation of winning?
Shaq and Malone aren't top 5 players of all-time (Jordan, Magic, Bird, etc.). What I meant by Team USA and an NBA team is that it's apples and oranges. Who wouldn't want to win an Olympic Gold Medal? The Olympics is the world's ASG. Also, all that KG, Ray Allen, JKidd talk is irrelevant. Were they top 6 (in the league) at the time they did it? Probably not. And to answer your last question, I feel overcoming more adversity makes your legacy better. What's more impressive, a rich kid with all the advantages getting rich or a kid from the slums getting rich overcoming all the adversity?
well ok so you wouldnt go to a top school aka d1 like duke etc.... because basically you are choosin to play with the best and be around the best. so by your theory ud probably wouldnt even make the nba... i mean considering 1 you would start off by comming out some rinkadink college. granted you have a few gonzaga, santa clare etc... stories but who in recent yrs is a all time great and played for backyard univ.... aka bum !@!% school.
or are you suggesting its ok to team up be on a superstar team in college to get a ncaa championship/get a top draft but then the rules change again one you are in the nba
Last time I checked college is amateur, the NBA is the pros. What do they have in common (other than basketball, sports, whatever)? Why not try to be the best in your profession by beating the best? When did it become cool to take the easy route? Maybe I'm just old-fashioned, I don't know. But I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. I can see your points though, I just don't agree.
And for the record, whenever I play sports games I always pick the bummiest teams to build them up, because I find satisfaction in stacking the odds then overcoming them. *shrugs*