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Iron Man 3 (Movie Thread)-05/03/13 - New Trailer pg12 - Suits on Suits on Suits
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They did use it. A billion dollars in 20-some days. Joke's on us.
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There was one thing I was thinking about, might be over thinking. In the restaurant with Rhodes before Stark went on a anxiety attack, that kid that looks like from the Christmas Story asked Tony how he got out of the portal in the Avengers. I just thought that was interesting and was hoping they would go more into that but nothing really came of it. I was hoping there was a bigger plot or some mystery which would eventually lead him going to space for the end credit scene to encounter GotG.
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Saw it today and it was ok at best. There was entirely too much an emphasis on comedy and being family friendly. This could have passed as a PG movie easily despite the violence.
Even my mom thought there were parts of the movie that were completely stupid like the over usage of drones, the VR instead of him using the suit. When I told her about the Mandarin she said that was stupid as well for the reasons explained about him being his main villain.
Even my mom thought there were parts of the movie that were completely stupid like the over usage of drones, the VR instead of him using the suit. When I told her about the Mandarin she said that was stupid as well for the reasons explained about him being his main villain.
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Just finished watching, it was ok, but can't lie I was disappointed.
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i havent picked up more than 2 comics in my entire life. i just enjoy these movies so i know nothing of storyline. so the extremis people arent invicible nor are their regeneration powers good against anything powerful. got it.
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Why do dudes want comic book movies to follow along the lines of the comic series? What would be the point of watching a movie where you know everything that's going to happen? I've noticed that with Walking Dead and Game Of Thrones also.
Movies are suppose to be a fantasy or an escape, not a biography. Even biographical movies like Lincoln or 42 include fiction.
It seems like some of you go expecting to hate a movie, because you should know from the beginning it's not going to follow the comic. They're out to entertain the non comic readers.
Movies are suppose to be a fantasy or an escape, not a biography. Even biographical movies like Lincoln or 42 include fiction.
It seems like some of you go expecting to hate a movie, because you should know from the beginning it's not going to follow the comic. They're out to entertain the non comic readers.
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Did Lincoln go on to live past his assassination in the movie?
It's not that we want it to follow hand in hand the comic. But SOME things need to stay true to the comic. If they make Mandarin how he is supposed to be his actual nemesis , nobody would be upset at all. Nobody would be upset that he isn't asian nor would anybody care for minor details like that. It's the unnecessary changes that **** up what coulda been a GREAT movie. Instead of simply making him an actual villain vs some drunk bum in a costume it woulda made the movie great. Or even show a hint that the actual Mandarin is somewhere else hiding or some bs and it was all part of his plan.
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You can entertain non comic readers and still stay true to the source material. You might not be able to stick true to the entire thing, but you can still use the most important elements word for word, image for image. The problem is that Hollywood often hires writers who aren't passionate about their work like a Joss Whedon and you end up with twists like the Mandarin being a dope fiend actor. As mentioned, could you imagine the outrage if they made the Joker to be a comedian who specialized in dark humor? This is the impression that the general public leaves the theater with. This is why there is outrage amongst the comic community. Even if the rest of the film remained the same, you cannot do that to a character's main villain.
Its the same with Transformers. Although its a series about robots, Michael Bay centered the plot around humans and involved a special ops team that gets into more trouble than they are worth. If there is to ever be a reboot of the franchise with a different director, should he get it right the first time around Bay's legacy will have been further cemented as a joke.
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I'll probably enjoy it then.
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Also, the scenes with the kid were completely unnecessary. The movie is all over the place. Easily the Spider Man 3 of the franchise.
Going back to the source material issue. Marvel's job is to translate the books into film. Can't compare this folly with Nolan and TDKR because he wanted to have a Batman franchise that was more grounded in reality and even then he used the source material to an extent for inspiration. You can't tease the Ten Rings from the beginning of the trilogy and ultimately have it turn out to be this. You've essentially voided their existence by having it all be a sham in the third film.
Aldrich Killian was not a good villain. He was extremely bland and generic. So Tony Stark brushed you off in 1999 boo hoo.
Mandarin = Phoenix in X Men 3.
Why didn't SHIELD help him this time? They were around in IM 1 and 2.
Going back to the source material issue. Marvel's job is to translate the books into film. Can't compare this folly with Nolan and TDKR because he wanted to have a Batman franchise that was more grounded in reality and even then he used the source material to an extent for inspiration. You can't tease the Ten Rings from the beginning of the trilogy and ultimately have it turn out to be this. You've essentially voided their existence by having it all be a sham in the third film.
Aldrich Killian was not a good villain. He was extremely bland and generic. So Tony Stark brushed you off in 1999 boo hoo.
Mandarin = Phoenix in X Men 3.
Why didn't SHIELD help him this time? They were around in IM 1 and 2.
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Stop it.
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I'm talking about for comic related films and its true. It often reflects in the overall product.
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There were a lot of names you could've said.
Joss Whedon is the wrong one.
Joss Whedon is the wrong one.
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SHIELD was busy cleaning up all the damage in New York.
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No, these guys were
The thing that's been bugging me like a splinter in the back of my mind is the previews.
We were shown a powerful, evil Mandarin. The Iron Man suits blowing up. Tony's house exploding and he and Pepper in danger. Tony dragging his suit in the snow. The final scene where all his suits show up as backup. What we were shown, was a darker, harsher Iron Man world/story. We ALL agreed, and were excited that it looked like the tone was right.
And then the movie plays, and it's PG to the core. RDJ voice over monologue, little kids, my little pony watches, homemade weapons made with christmas ornaments, stupid countdowns til pieces of his suit busted thru a wall all the way from Tennessee to Miami. All the darkness, gone.
I watched IM2 over the weekend. I'm starting to disagree, 2 was not as bad as I remember. It could have been tweeked a little, some tinkering would have cleaned it up much better, but overall, it was more solid than given credit for. The stuff with his father, the out of control nature, thinking he was dying and giving away his stuff, the Senate meetings which I wish they would have shown more of or gone more in depth, Rourke's own father issues and revenge plot, Rockwell's performance, and then the introduction of a little more shield than the first couple movies. It was a lot better than I remember.
I understand the complaints about Marvel always setting up the next movie/phase, I get that, but in truth, that's what this is all about. These are not singular stories, this is all an arc. There's going to be additions, and full circles so there will be scenes with Hawkeye in Thor, or RDJ at the end of the Hulk, the tie ins are natural and have to be addressed. So to mention them as reasons for IM2 not being as good as it could have been is unfair. The Drones should have been cleaned up, the final battle was great in the park, until Rourke got there and then it was over in 30 seconds. That should have been better, but alot of it was still very good.
Showing us a serious Mandarin, and then making it a joke was either to throw us all off the scent, or a horrible joke. Not one single rumor of Mandarin being a fake was uttered on the internet prior to the release. The best kept secret the net has ever kept when you think about it.
We were shown a powerful, evil Mandarin. The Iron Man suits blowing up. Tony's house exploding and he and Pepper in danger. Tony dragging his suit in the snow. The final scene where all his suits show up as backup. What we were shown, was a darker, harsher Iron Man world/story. We ALL agreed, and were excited that it looked like the tone was right.
And then the movie plays, and it's PG to the core. RDJ voice over monologue, little kids, my little pony watches, homemade weapons made with christmas ornaments, stupid countdowns til pieces of his suit busted thru a wall all the way from Tennessee to Miami. All the darkness, gone.
I watched IM2 over the weekend. I'm starting to disagree, 2 was not as bad as I remember. It could have been tweeked a little, some tinkering would have cleaned it up much better, but overall, it was more solid than given credit for. The stuff with his father, the out of control nature, thinking he was dying and giving away his stuff, the Senate meetings which I wish they would have shown more of or gone more in depth, Rourke's own father issues and revenge plot, Rockwell's performance, and then the introduction of a little more shield than the first couple movies. It was a lot better than I remember.
I understand the complaints about Marvel always setting up the next movie/phase, I get that, but in truth, that's what this is all about. These are not singular stories, this is all an arc. There's going to be additions, and full circles so there will be scenes with Hawkeye in Thor, or RDJ at the end of the Hulk, the tie ins are natural and have to be addressed. So to mention them as reasons for IM2 not being as good as it could have been is unfair. The Drones should have been cleaned up, the final battle was great in the park, until Rourke got there and then it was over in 30 seconds. That should have been better, but alot of it was still very good.
Showing us a serious Mandarin, and then making it a joke was either to throw us all off the scent, or a horrible joke. Not one single rumor of Mandarin being a fake was uttered on the internet prior to the release. The best kept secret the net has ever kept when you think about it.
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Don't know if it was said but the ad whor.ing really bothered me for some reason.
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I'm still gonna get it on Blu Ray when it comes out 
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This definately had a different feeling! Best part was when the HULKBUSTER came running through the crates like a BAWSE.Got me hyped!Other than that,it was ok
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That wasn't Hulkbuster, that was Igor.
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We were shown a powerful, evil Mandarin. The Iron Man suits blowing up. Tony's house exploding and he and Pepper in danger. Tony dragging his suit in the snow. The final scene where all his suits show up as backup. What we were shown, was a darker, harsher Iron Man world/story. We ALL agreed, and were excited that it looked like the tone was right.
And then the movie plays, and it's PG to the core. RDJ voice over monologue, little kids, my little pony watches, homemade weapons made with christmas ornaments, stupid countdowns til pieces of his suit busted thru a wall all the way from Tennessee to Miami. All the darkness, gone.
Showing us a serious Mandarin, and then making it a joke was either to throw us all off the scent, or a horrible joke. Not one single rumor of Mandarin being a fake was uttered on the internet prior to the release. The best kept secret the net has ever kept when you think about it.
Shane Black on the Mandarin twist:
Literary ********. Just...an amazing lack of awareness. I think he maybe could've gotten away with it, if this was the 2nd movie and that wasn't The Mandarin. I mean, The Joker. That's the goal. That's the end all be all. Everyone has to have a Joker. Hell, 007 just had his own Joker. And what's worse, he doesn't understand how we feel about it at all. Okay, that was a decoy? Fine. So was Ken Watanabe in Batman Begins. But he didn't turn into a complete joke after. You got your trick over, good. But then to gloat and ruin the moment by turning him into an Austin Powers character? That's wack and that's wacky.And that was my biggest problem with Iron Man 3. It was wacky. From the very first scene it was wacky. Funny is fine. It's necessary. You gotta have a sense of humor, even The Dark Knight did. But wacky is sacrificing dignity and gravity and seriousness and the moment, because getting a cheap laugh is that important to you. So they went for wacky, just like Fantastic Four would. And now he's saying there's a big message, that sometimes we go for the easy bad guy?
The dumbest part of it is, this is the same twist as the first Iron Man, when we found out Obidiah was the real big bad. But look at how much worse this is handled.
A billion dollars in a few weeks, cuz they made a dark kids movie. Good for them.
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Shane Black on the Mandarin twist:
And that was my biggest problem with Iron Man 3. It was wacky. From the very first scene it was wacky. Funny is fine. It's necessary. You gotta have a sense of humor, even The Dark Knight did. But wacky is sacrificing dignity and gravity and seriousness and the moment, because getting a cheap laugh is that important to you. So they went for wacky, just like Fantastic Four would. And now he's saying there's a big message, that sometimes we go for the easy bad guy?
The dumbest part of it is, this is the same twist as the first Iron Man, when we found out Obidiah was the real big bad. But look at how much worse this is handled.
A billion dollars in a few weeks, cuz they made a dark kids movie. Good for them.
Spot on
