is French Montana AA But Not Black?

[ninjahood]

Pretty sure Melo's Pops was a Black Puerto Rican too

It would be like being "Half Jamaican and Half African American".....

except Puerto Ricans are part of da Latino Diaspora...

there's a reason why plays like "Platanos & Collared Green" resonate culturally.

 

[wavycrocket]

except Puerto Ricans are part of da Latino Diaspora...

there's a reason why plays like "Platanos & Collared Green" resonate culturally.

You missed the point. Entirely

My point was that Carmelo Anthony isn't Black and Puerto Rican (the way someone is black and white)....

He's a Black person...who's mother is a Black American....and whose father was a Black Puerto Rican.


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[cashbanks]

He didn't miss **** he just ignores things that don't fit his narrative

 

[ninjahood]

except Puerto Ricans are part of da Latino Diaspora...

there's a reason why plays like "Platanos & Collared Green" resonate culturally.

You missed the point. Entirely

My point was that Carmelo Anthony isn't Black and Puerto Rican (the way someone is black and white)....

He's a Black person...who's mother is a Black American....and whose father was a Black Puerto Rican.


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and yet he refers himself as half black & half Puerto Rican...

Pretty sure Melo's Pops was a Black Puerto Rican too

It would be like being "Half Jamaican and Half African American".....

Sadly i've had to deal with the "you're not black, you're Jamaican" nonsense. America needs a better education system.

da problem is ya Americans Conflated "Black" and "African American" as interchangeable terms.

 

[chadleroy]

You missed the point. Entirely

My point was that Carmelo Anthony isn't Black and Puerto Rican (the way someone is black and white)....

He's a Black person...who's mother is a Black American....and whose father was a Black Puerto Rican.


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You're wasting your time. Thread is full of buffoonery

 

[aNYone]

Sadly i've had to deal with the "you're not black, you're Jamaican" nonsense. America needs a better education system.

Oh so you've been hit with the ; I thought you were "regular" black too [emoji]128557[/emoji]

 

[wavycrocket]

and yet he refers himself as half black & half Puerto Rican...
da problem is ya Americans Conflated "Black" and "African American" as interchangeable terms.

You wouldn't tell a half Haitian and half African American....that they are "half Black"

It's only with the Spanish speaking countries in Latin America that try to make a clear distinction and separate from their " blackness".....

You can be a Black American and Black Puerto Rican....and still identify as Black and Puerto Rican without removing the blackness from yout Puerto Rican side.

 

[ninjahood]

and yet he refers himself as half black & half Puerto Rican...
da problem is ya Americans Conflated "Black" and "African American" as interchangeable terms.

You wouldn't tell a half Haitian and half African American....that they are "half Black"

they do it themselves.

some of ya are wild aloof of how nationalist/ethnic pride play into self indentification.

this is why da census categories are changing.

BTW, i hear "yo im half black, half west Indian... "ALL da time.

 

[Mark Antony]

except Puerto Ricans are part of da Latino Diaspora...

there's a reason why plays like "Platanos & Collared Green" resonate culturally.

You missed the point. Entirely

My point was that Carmelo Anthony isn't Black and Puerto Rican (the way someone is black and white)....

He's a Black person...who's mother is a Black American....and whose father was a Black Puerto Rican.


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and yet he refers himself as half black & half Puerto Rican...

Pretty sure Melo's Pops was a Black Puerto Rican too

It would be like being "Half Jamaican and Half African American".....

Sadly i've had to deal with the "you're not black, you'[re Jamaican" nonsense. America needs a better education system.

da problem is ya Americans Conflated "Black" and "African American" as interchangeable terms.

You just did the same thing and proved/disproved your own point with the Melo "half black".

 

[chadleroy]

they do it themselves.

some of ya are wild aloof of how nationalist/ethnic pride play into self indentification.

this is why da census categories are changing.

BTW, i hear "yo im half black, half west Indian... "ALL da time.

Their pride doesn't negate then being wrong.

half race, half nationality

 

[wavy daddy]

Black puerto ricans are black not puerto rican

 

[Mark Antony]

Black puerto ricans are black not puerto rican

Yo what's it like to be as goofy as you are? do people ever tell you or are you the boss of your goofy gang?

 

[ninjahood]

except Puerto Ricans are part of da Latino Diaspora...

there's a reason why plays like "Platanos & Collared Green" resonate culturally.

You missed the point. Entirely

My point was that Carmelo Anthony isn't Black and Puerto Rican (the way someone is black and white)....

He's a Black person...who's mother is a Black American....and whose father was a Black Puerto Rican.


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and yet he refers himself as half black & half Puerto Rican...

Pretty sure Melo's Pops was a Black Puerto Rican too

It would be like being "Half Jamaican and Half African American".....

Sadly i've had to deal with the "you're not black, you'[re Jamaican" nonsense. America needs a better education system.

da problem is ya Americans Conflated "Black" and "African American" as interchangeable terms.

You just did the same thing and proved/disproved your own point with the Melo "half black".

except Melo references himself as half black.

go take it up with him, or Nore.

 

[ksteezy]

Black puerto ricans are black not puerto rican

Shut up

There are black Colombians, catch one of them outside the country walking the streets of Astoria and ask them "hey what are you?" 100% they will answer IM COLOMBIAN and NOT black, because stating the obvious color of their skin is negating their nationality, which with LATINOS is far more important than their complexion since we all come from so many different countries all with their own subculture and pride.

This is when I start siding with NH to a certain extent and some of you guys that are not even Latino, start juggling semantics and blurred lines you can't understand.

 

[Mark Antony]

except Puerto Ricans are part of da Latino Diaspora...

there's a reason why plays like "Platanos & Collared Green" resonate culturally.

You missed the point. Entirely

My point was that Carmelo Anthony isn't Black and Puerto Rican (the way someone is black and white)....

He's a Black person...who's mother is a Black American....and whose father was a Black Puerto Rican.


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and yet he refers himself as half black & half Puerto Rican...

Pretty sure Melo's Pops was a Black Puerto Rican too

It would be like being "Half Jamaican and Half African American".....

Sadly i've had to deal with the "you're not black, you'[re Jamaican" nonsense. America needs a better education system.

da problem is ya Americans Conflated "Black" and "African American" as interchangeable terms.

You just did the same thing and proved/disproved your own point with the Melo "half black".

except Melo references himself as half black.

go take it up with him, or Nore.

da problem is ya Americans Conflated "Black" and "African American" as interchangeable terms.

 

[ksteezy]

My wife is black if categorized by the color of her skin, however she will 100% always identify herself as Latina/Dominican first and foremost anywhere outside of DR, where identifying as a Dominican is redundant as hell and there she will be identify amongst her peeps and even herself as a "morenita, negra" THATS if we talking labels.

 

[wavy daddy]

Yo what's it like to be as goofy as you are? do people ever tell you or are you the boss of your goofy gang?

 

[hennessy]

Ask the White Guy: Is a White Person From Africa an African-American?

In short, no. But please read about how our country’s history makes America unique in having “African-Americans.”
Ask the White Guy Luke Visconti Explains the History Behind the term African-American

By Luke Visconti / February 20, 2013

Ask the White Guy Luke Visconti Explains the History Behind the term African-American

Q: A reader commented on our article ‘You Must Have Voted for Obama’: 5 Things NEVER to Say to Blacks. He quoted a portion of that article and made an observation that makes for a good teachable moment.

“Don’t assume all Blacks are African-American; there also are people who are African, Afro-Latino, Afro-European, Afro-Caribbean, etc.”
Thank you for posting that. One of my best friends in high school was Black but traced his ancestry back to France. It bothered him whenever someone referred to him as “African-American.”

On the flip side, one of my son’s best friends in high school was born in America, but both of his parents were born and raised in Africa. He could legitimately be called “African-American” but probably never will be since all of them are Caucasian.

Just goes to show, you can’t judge a book by its cover … or a person by his/her color.

A: Yes and no. I acknowledge that you posted your comment with positive sincerity; however, I agree with your first point, but not the second.

“African-American” refers to descendants of enslaved Black people who are from the United States. The reason we use an entire continent (Africa) instead of a country (e.g., “Italian-American”) is because slave masters purposefully obliterated tribal ancestry, language and family units in order to destroy the spirit of the people they enslaved, thereby making it impossible for their descendants to trace their history prior to being born into slavery. This was all in an effort to prevent enslaved people from organizing and revolting their bondage (look up Nat Turner).

Enforcing illiteracy of enslaved people (by law, with severe penalties—including death in some cases—for teaching an enslaved person to write) and obliterating any sense of history or familial ties was a tradition in our country starting in 1619 (before the Revolution) and ending after the Civil War. (One can argue that this practice continued into the 20th century.) This is why our African-American fellow citizens cannot trace their heritage past the continent of Africa. I’ll re-emphasize this point: Their personal and family history was purposefully obliterated by people who enslaved other people.

For purposes of respect, as well as providing context to current-day events and economic realities, it is important to acknowledge and understand this part of American history. America is unique in having people who are African-American. For a personal insight into what all this means, I suggest you read Frederick Douglass’ autobiography My Bondage and My Freedom. In addition to learning history in a very real and first-person way, you‘ll also learn things about our language—for example, the bone-chilling origin of the common phrase “sold down the river.” For an outstanding overview of the repercussions of slavery in the modern-day era, I most strongly recommend Michelle Alexander’s recent book The New Jim Crow.

In the case of your son’s friend, post-slavery immigrants from a country in Africa can readily identify themselves by where they came from—it’s on their passports. Black immigrants from Africa can identify themselves by country and tribe (keep in mind that country boundaries in Africa are chiefly colonial constructs). A modern-day immigrant from Africa may refer to him- or herself by a hyphenated identity—“Sudanese-American,” for example.

A special note for the people who email me about their white ancestors who were enslaved: Virginia codified slave laws to be exclusive to Black people in 1705 (establishing white supremacy), and indentured servitude was ended by the early 1800s. Comparing indentured servitude of white people to the history of African-Americans is insulting, in my opinion, and I won’t entertain it in this publication.

http://www.diversityinc.com/ask-the...white-person-from-africa-an-african-american/

Just leaving this here... You guys have fun in here today

 

[ksteezy]

My wife's boss was South African, straight up rich white lawyer, when asked how he identified the man identified as an African American.

 

[chadleroy]

Nah nobody is missing the pride aspect of it which is hardly exclusive to Latinos. I'm half Dominican, half Panamanian. Still black. Carmelo and whoever else is still wrong at the end of the day.

 

[dakid23]

Just went through this entire thread.

Classic

 

[wavycrocket]

My wife is black if categorized by the color of her skin, however she will 100% always identify herself as Latina/Dominican first and foremost anywhere outside of DR, where identifying as a Dominican is redundant as hell and there she will be identify amongst her peeps and even herself as a "morenita, negra" THATS if we talking labels.

This is understood. Black people exist around the globe. This isn't exclusive to Latin America. A Nigerian would tell you they are Nigerian before anything else. A Jamaican would tell you they are Jamaican. A Haitian will identify as a Haitian. A Dominican as a Dominican.

Still doesn't remove their "blackness"

 

[MVP]

This is understood. Black people exist around the globe. This isn't exclusive to Latin America. A Nigerian would tell you they are Nigerian before anything else. A Jamaican would tell you they are Jamaican. A Haitian will identify as a Haitian. A Dominican as a Dominican.

Still doesn't remove their "blackness"

How is this so hard to understand?

 

[cashbanks]

This is understood. Black people exist around the globe. This isn't exclusive to Latin America. A Nigerian would tell you they are Nigerian before anything else. A Jamaican would tell you they are Jamaican. A Haitian will identify as a Haitian. A Dominican as a Dominican.

Still doesn't remove their "blackness"

 

[ninjahood]

Nah nobody is missing the pride aspect of it which is hardly exclusive to Latinos. I'm half Dominican, half Panamanian. Still black. Carmelo and whoever else is still wrong at the end of the day.

da chick i deal with is also half Dominican, half Panamanian & doesn't​ consider herself black at all, she considers herself a latina.