Jordan III REIMAGINED “White Cement” -March 11th 2023

See that’s just a bold face lie. Blanket statements with no actual concrete fact behind it. Jordan propagandists argue like anti-Vaxers.

He ain make anyone around him better. Stop the cap. Bulls still were a playoff team with a MVP candidate after his first retirement.
What was the Bulls record when MJ returned in 1995?
 
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This is why MJ is the better player lol
 
My fellow old heads. Don't even engage with them...just hit them with my standard response :lol:

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It’s not even that, it’s the incessant loser trolling. This is all happening in a JORDAN based forum, yeah? No specific stats proving anything. Just blasé half based ramblings, feelings and more feelings in a post truth world bleeding into a sneaker forum. It’s just such a low level of absolute pathetic. I wouldn’t waste my spit on these losers

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See that’s just a bold face lie. Blanket statements with no actual concrete fact behind it. Jordan propagandists argue like anti-Vaxers.

He ain make anyone around him better. Stop the cap. Bulls still were a playoff team with a MVP candidate after his first retirement.
LOL. Actually you have it quite backwards. It’s Bron Stans that argue like anti-Vaxers and flat earthers. Bulls were a playoff team without Jordan but they DIDNT win without him. LJ has lost in the finals more than he has won and has choked multiple times. Jordan never lost in the finals. You know why? Cause he’s a better player than LJ. Period. And it’s not even close. Neeeeeext.
 
LOL. Actually you have it quite backwards. It’s Bron Stans that argue like anti-Vaxers and flat earthers. Bulls were a playoff team without Jordan but they DIDNT win without him. LJ has lost in the finals more than he has won and has choked multiple times. Jordan never lost in the finals. You know why? Cause he’s a better player than LJ. Period. And it’s not even close. Neeeeeext.

Yeah you’re right without Jordan the Bulls were still a playoff team. Without Bron his teams are literally picking in the lottery. That’s the difference. Jordan doesn’t have any Finals losses cause he couldn’t get out the East before everyone aged out and it wasn’t any competition left. He never beat Boston, had to wait until Detroit and the Lakers got old.

You’re bringing up TEAM accomplishments to justify who’s the better player. By your logic Bill Russell is better than MJ and so is Robert Horry. MJ was the best player on the 2nd best team ever assembled.
 
Yeah you’re right without Jordan the Bulls were still a playoff team. Without Bron his teams are literally picking in the lottery. That’s the difference. Jordan doesn’t have any Finals losses cause he couldn’t get out the East before everyone aged out and it wasn’t any competition left. He never beat Boston, had to wait until Detroit and the Lakers got old.

You’re bringing up TEAM accomplishments to justify who’s the better player. By your logic Bill Russell is better than MJ and so is Robert Horry. MJ was the best player on the 2nd best team ever assembled.
Good try man, but nope. The competition Jordan faced in the 90’s was a THOUSAND times stiffer than today. A thousand times.
The teams in the 90’s IN GENERAL were much than those of today, because the PLAYERS were better 🙂. The 97’ Knicks would absolutely curbstomp the top seed in either conference in todays league., and that’s just one example. Doesn’t mean Jordan didn’t make the players around him better though. You argue that LJ makes his teams better but that Jordan wouldn’t do the same if you could take the Jordan from the 90’s and put him on a team today. Doesn’t compute. Also before Jordan Bulls weren’t even making the playoffs.
 
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Yeah you’re right without Jordan the Bulls were still a playoff team. Without Bron his teams are literally picking in the lottery. That’s the difference. Jordan doesn’t have any Finals losses cause he couldn’t get out the East before everyone aged out and it wasn’t any competition left. He never beat Boston, had to wait until Detroit and the Lakers got old.

You’re bringing up TEAM accomplishments to justify who’s the better player. By your logic Bill Russell is better than MJ and so is Robert Horry. MJ was the best player on the 2nd best team ever assembled.
You definitely don't know the NBA if you're saying everyone in the East got old, the only team that really fits that criteria is the Celtics but they didn't even get that old by 1991. They had career-ending injuries.

I've seen you in here using the standard tropes that have been debunked years ago.:lol:
 
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