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Because I realized there is nothing about dude's post/position I really respect
Just like I don't respect the **** you post
Kanye West: King of the Sunken Place, "Watch the Throne"
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Just like I don't respect the **** you post
dblplay1212
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Feeling is mutual. 
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A person record a song spewing racism about black people when he was 21. He didn't just use a word around the black friends he grew up around.
He owes his success to multiple black people, and openly stated at the time he doesn't support racism and doesn't use the N-word
Yet, His previous racism gets exposed when he was in his late 20s/early 30s, and he half owns up to it, and half bull****s to deflect
And the defense of him is the usual white privileged drenched **** about him being young
As soon as I touched down in America as a 14-year-old, cops were on me. I got harassed by the same cop
I saw black friends' lives ruined and almost ruined by relatively small things.
When I was 21, I did a lot of dumb **** I was not proud of. But I didn't use racial slurs, I certainly didn't make a song using them
It is just weird that when it comes to the bad behavior of young black boys, they are viewed as adults in their early teens, and society treats and punishes them accordingly
But with white dudes especially affluent ones or with fame, get to be kids well into their 20s,
So excuse me if I don't accept a non-black person, defending a white adult's racist actions by calling him a kid and sanitizing his action. That just doesn't sit right with me
It is not about being on my high horse, it is about acknowledging the different ways society goes harder at certain groups for certain actions. I just find that double standard insulting
Right now, people are rightfully drawing a strict line on what is excusable rhetoric regarding Jewish Americans.
And the second it turns to a white person's racism towards black people, the black people talking issue with Ye's antisemitism are to treated to some mealy-mouthed nonsense downplaying Emimen's racism.
Yeah, spare me.
He owes his success to multiple black people, and openly stated at the time he doesn't support racism and doesn't use the N-word
Yet, His previous racism gets exposed when he was in his late 20s/early 30s, and he half owns up to it, and half bull****s to deflect
And the defense of him is the usual white privileged drenched **** about him being young
As soon as I touched down in America as a 14-year-old, cops were on me. I got harassed by the same cop
I saw black friends' lives ruined and almost ruined by relatively small things.
When I was 21, I did a lot of dumb **** I was not proud of. But I didn't use racial slurs, I certainly didn't make a song using them
It is just weird that when it comes to the bad behavior of young black boys, they are viewed as adults in their early teens, and society treats and punishes them accordingly
But with white dudes especially affluent ones or with fame, get to be kids well into their 20s,
So excuse me if I don't accept a non-black person, defending a white adult's racist actions by calling him a kid and sanitizing his action. That just doesn't sit right with me
It is not about being on my high horse, it is about acknowledging the different ways society goes harder at certain groups for certain actions. I just find that double standard insulting
Right now, people are rightfully drawing a strict line on what is excusable rhetoric regarding Jewish Americans.
And the second it turns to a white person's racism towards black people, the black people talking issue with Ye's antisemitism are to treated to some mealy-mouthed nonsense downplaying Emimen's racism.
Yeah, spare me.
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#EQUALITY
computersputin
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Damn , a racist, 2 MAGAs and Drake. What a collab.
dblplay1212
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If the story was that Kayne made these comments 25 years ago when he was 20 and hadn't made anything close to them since, I'd have the same thoughts as I do about Eminem using that word 35 years ago. If Eminem was using that word today, my feelings would be different. As I said earlier, context matters.
I will say it's odd that a discussion of Ye has turned into "But hey what about the white guy from 35 years ago?"
dblplay1212
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Damn I said I was done. My bad. Goodnight.
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People like you who jumped out the window as soon as he was mentioned are the ones that are acting like this is what is going on
wavycrocket
brought him up in a different context
Methodical Management
mentioned about how people defend their idols.These were not whataboutisms to draw attention away from Ye. It was a discussion about the music industry, and to draw parallels about how fans defend bad behavior from their idols
And you proceeded to prove Meth's point
All you are doing here is pushing a strawman in hopes it helps your tired argument
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In 2003, it was not “35 years ago,” nor was he fifteen at the time of the recording.
My statement was that people were bending over backwards trying to find some way to excuse it at the time - and, sadly, it seems that’s still true.
I find it particularly distasteful when the incident is treated as if it’s an accident, like he slipped on a banana peel, then shouted a racial slur and a derogatory claim about Black women into a microphone.
This seems to be the “Michael Richards defense,” that if someone suffers temporary embarrassment, it is in some way understandable for them to grope around for a weapon and wield a twisted instrument of historical oppression in defense of a momentarily bruised ego. (“Hurt people hurt people.”)
I can accept that it doesn’t move the needle much for you, but, crucially, it did not denigrate you.
There are a lot of people in prison for mistakes they made at 21. Society tends to be significantly more forgiving when the people who make those “mistakes” are White.
It brings to mind Chanel Miller’s powerful statement regarding Brock Turner and his incredibly lenient sentencing:
“My pain was never more important than his potential.”
Forgiveness does not require us to forget, nor should we ignore the tendency in our society to grant some people second (and third, and fourth) chances before giving others their first.
I understand that a lot of Ye’s fans - like Eminem’s fans - are inclined to forgive him - but not all of them have the standing to do so.
It is all too easy to forgive someone for harms inflicted upon someone else. If you’re not Black, if you’re not Jewish, then you have little right to ask those who are to overlook his defamatory statements because you like his art.
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From the Yeezy thread
damn these guys go all out to justify how much they paid for their ugly Yeezy shoes.Apparently going on 13 years (I’m counting from that embarrassing Taylor Swift incident) worth of rampages of buffoonery, racism, and all types of ignorant behavior is a “mistake”.
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This thread is delivering the lulz
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While I do agree that Kanye should. have faced consequences for his “slavery was a choice” and MAGA nonsense, I don’t agree that attacking other groups is fair game. Singling out Jews makes no sense when unfortunately countries, industries, celebrities of all faiths don’t give importance to black people. The question should be “When is society as a whole going to give the same urgency to address anti black rhetoric” rather than some simplistic and ignorant “the Jews control everything!!!”
We hear unfiltered and dangerous anti black rhetoric 24/7 from Trump,Fox News, Newsmax, etc. these people hardly represent Jewish people at all…
Also, singling out the percentage of rich Jews in the US and pointing to that as a proof of Jewish conspiracy is laughable. There are millions of Jews throughout the world that are poor or middle class.
A lot of us are minorities who come from countries with tons of poor people, but only the most educated or well connected tend to make it to the US or other wealthier countries. For example Nigerians,Indians, and Chinese people are highly represented in lucrative fields in the US, but there are literally hundreds of millions of them worldwide that are struggling to survive.
It’d be crazy to say our parents are part of some conspiracy to take over the US, when the simple reality is that they were just the lucky ones who made it here and built successful communities through networking and cooperation. When Jews do it, it’s somehow a sinister scheme.
We hear unfiltered and dangerous anti black rhetoric 24/7 from Trump,Fox News, Newsmax, etc. these people hardly represent Jewish people at all…
Also, singling out the percentage of rich Jews in the US and pointing to that as a proof of Jewish conspiracy is laughable. There are millions of Jews throughout the world that are poor or middle class.
A lot of us are minorities who come from countries with tons of poor people, but only the most educated or well connected tend to make it to the US or other wealthier countries. For example Nigerians,Indians, and Chinese people are highly represented in lucrative fields in the US, but there are literally hundreds of millions of them worldwide that are struggling to survive.
It’d be crazy to say our parents are part of some conspiracy to take over the US, when the simple reality is that they were just the lucky ones who made it here and built successful communities through networking and cooperation. When Jews do it, it’s somehow a sinister scheme.
freeze
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This Kanye bestie
elpablo21
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That grift bag seems like such easy money. Soulless but easy money
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Kanye West Streams, Airplay Nosedive in Wake of Antisemitic Comments
Two weeks of controversy have caused consumption of Kanye West's music to drop precipitously. According to data from Luminate, albums by West are down 23% and airplay has dropped off 13% in the U.S.
variety.com
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I know we love to shoot down, "WhatAboutIsms" but IS there a legit argument against the frustration Black Folks feel when they see people not get the level of punishment for disrespecting them as they do when other groups are harmed/disrespected?
I know some of us have already expressed that if Black Folks took themselves more seriously we would magically get that level of pull/respect. (Interesting that comment went unchecked by many in here but that is another story)
I know some of us have already expressed that if Black Folks took themselves more seriously we would magically get that level of pull/respect. (Interesting that comment went unchecked by many in here but that is another story)
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What’s your theory Wavy?
I love the Warriors too btw
(I think that was you that they said talk good about golden state lmao)
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Lol
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“A fool and his money are soon parted”
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If corny equals one of the best selling artists off all time, and comes with a combined net worth of over $230 million, then sign me up Steve Buscemi.Eminem is so corny
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damn so adidas owns the silhouettes now. ye got finessed
