**LA LAKERS THREAD** Sitting on 17! 2023-2024 offseason begins

[shuges]

Yo, this thread has STAYED at the top of the page since Frankie baby got the axe. I haven't been in here since before then and I kept saying to myself that some other **** must have happened for the thread to be so hot.

@ska2003lalwestlife Is it worth me going back like 100 pages or nah?

 

[darthska]

Yo, this thread has STAYED at the top of the page since Frankie baby got the axe. I haven't been in here since before then and I kept saying to myself that some other **** must have happened for the thread to be so hot.

@ska2003lalwestlife Is it worth me going back like 100 pages or nah?

That all depends. When you see monkeys throwing **** at each other, do you go "Hmph, this is interesting" and stop and watch? Are you entertained?

Or do you go "Well that's stupid" and keep it moving?

If you are entertained by monkeys throwing **** at each other, by all means, pull up a chair. That's pretty much all we were doing.

-foe

 

[akajae]

 

[tupac003]

Glad somebody said it...

 

[lovehateself]

Big Earv an attention ...

 

[DLF]

we're doing them a favor taking gordon.

no picks

send tht too and get someone else in return

This

THEY BENEFIT from salary dumping Gordon. Nobody else wants that contract. Jordan saves millions with the move.

Use the 2027 pick with tht to get another player.

Also, Oubre is bazemore with better skin.

 

[DLF]

Yo, this thread has STAYED at the top of the page since Frankie baby got the axe. I haven't been in here since before then and I kept saying to myself that some other **** must have happened for the thread to be so hot.

@ska2003lalwestlife Is it worth me going back like 100 pages or nah?

Hell no

 

[geno90221]

Too many HIV meds in that man system

 

[tupac003]

 

[tay1]

Depending on if Bron agrees to an extension or not, I think we should be at least flexible with one of the draft picks.

Obviously it depends on what we get back.

 

[atlsfinest]

 

[tupac003]

No way either of those shots should have gone in.

Absolutely amazing...

 

[moonman818]

So many moments like this throughout his career.

I think 2010 he hit like 7 GW/Buzzer Beaters in one season

 

[DLF]

Uhhh Winning!

 

[DLF]

Looking at the Hornets cap situation

If a trade is to be made, it def won’t include Oubre or plumlee. Both those guys are partially guarenteed for next year. Charlotte can easily find a taker for those two or simply waive them and pay only 9 mill for both next year. Plus they are expiring next year also. The move for Russ is to save for the year after next.

The trade will likely include Rozier and hayward with lakers sending a second rounder. Even this is a pipe dream

 

[WAKKO!]

Just hire Becky Hammon

 

[pmatic]

Looking at the Hornets cap situation

If a trade is to be made, it def won’t include Oubre or plumlee. Both those guys are partially guarenteed for next year. Charlotte can easily find a taker for those two or simply waive them and pay only 9 mill for both next year. Plus they are expiring next year also. The move for Russ is to save for the year after next.

The trade will likely include Rozier and hayward with lakers sending a second rounder. Even this is a pipe dream

That's why they gotta leverage the connections between the teams. Westbrook has the Jordan Brand partnership and Klutch has Miles Bridges entering free agency. I suppose Mitch might still have some allegiance to the Lakers.

 

[pmatic]

Spoiler

What would a Russell Westbrook trade look like?

Although we’ve come

To the end of the road

Still I can’t let go

At the end of this road though, no issues letting go. This is Dan Woike with the Los Angeles Times writing the latest Lakers newsletter now that I’ve showered this past season off of me. The Lakers, though, won’t be able to wash away their problems, an offseason filled with complex issues that need attention.

Today, we’ll look at maybe the juiciest – what trading Russell Westbrook could actually look like.

So how does this happen?

As Russell Westbrook began to play his best basketball of the season, the rumblings started to happen in some NBA circles that maybe the Lakers might just end up keeping their point guard after all.

He wasn’t the MVP that he used to be in his final 15 games, but he had seemed to shake off some of the yips he’d been dealing with, hit big shots in what qualified at the time as big wins, like the one in Toronto and looked much more settled.

But the Lakers kept losing and, in his one game back with LeBron James and Anthony Davis, Westbrook again looked lost and rhythm-less. And this week, in his season-ending media session, Westbrook discussed his problems with Frank Vogel, how James and Davis wouldn’t let him be himself and how he never felt like he got a fair chance to impact the organization the way he knows how.

So yeah, any positivity about a nice-ish 15-game stretch can board a Space-X rocket headed for the moon.

Getting out of the Russell Westbrook business won’t be easy for the Lakers, no matter how coy the former MVP was on Monday when discussing his $47-million player option for next season. Turning that down would be almost criminal, so you can expect Westbrook to be on the Lakers’ roster into the offseason.

From there, it’ll be on the front office to either construct a trade, consider an outright release or trudge forwards and try to rebuild confidence and comfort with a new head coach.

As a warning – virtually all of the Westbrook trades you’ll hear about over the next month will follow the same formula. The Lakers would send Westbrook and either their 2027 first-round pick or their 2029 first-round pick (or, gulp, maybe both) to a team that would benefit by trading players with longer contacts back to the Lakers.

With Westbrook’s $47 million coming off the books after next season, the Westbrook contract acts as sort of an amnesty option for any organizations facing some regretful decisions over the next two or three seasons.

Teams such as Charlotte and Indiana, two that league sources say could be involved, could possibly move a package of players to the Lakers for Westbrook.

On the surface, these trades sound great. If the Pacers were going to move Malcolm Brogdon and Buddy Hield for Westbrook and a pick or picks, the Lakers would get the a floor-spacer in Hield they wanted last summer and a two-way point guard in Brogdon.

But Hield’s been unreliable and never a serious part of a winner, and Brogdon hasn’t played more than 60 games since the 2018-19 season. The same goes in Charlotte, where there would undoubtedly be a steeper price to be paid for Terry Rozier and Gordon Hayward. Hayward, like Brogdon, has battled injuries and has played more than 50 games just once in the last three years.

Adding talent to the Lakers’ roster has to be a priority. But James and Davis are two of the NBA’s most talented players – and neither helped the Lakers push into the postseason because they weren’t available enough.

A clunkier, less financially attractive version of those deals could be with the New York Knicks, if they decide Julius Randle is a sunk asset. And then there’s the John Wall trade, which well, we’ve seen that before.

Basically, when sending out a player like Westbrook in a trade, expecting perfect fits in return is impossible. It’s functionally trading one set of problems for another.

To other teams, Westbrook represented a one-year problem on the books as a way to erase long-term commitments to other players. Some scouts and executives around the league don’t view Westbrook as a useful player at this stage, especially with a nearly $50 million price tag.

The Lakers could simply cut bait and release Westbrook, either using the stretch provision to move his salary cap hit over a handful of seasons or just bite the bullet and deal with it all at once (a far less likely scenario).

And lastly, they could just try again, find better shooters and defenders to surround him, James and Davis. Of course, every team will be scouring available players searching for ones that can shoot and defend, so finding a team full of them on an impossibly tight budget has its own challenges.

 

[CP1708]

I don't know.....all these options, giving up 2 more future picks, taking on salary longer term, I almost rather just let them eat **** with the 47 mil for one more season, let Bron chase his Kareem record, and have cap space created for 2023. (And still own our picks way out in the future.)

Bron
AD
Russ
Reaves
THT

Maybe keep Stanley, beg Monk to stay (he shouldn't) DNunnP Bruise on the roster, and then it'll be a bunch of league mins again.

But in 2023 you have only 2 contracts, AD and THT. And future picks still in your possession.

I don't want another year watchin Russ either. I'm sick of his bs, but taking a bunch of money back on to replace him doesn't really excite me.

 

[SORIANOTRON]

How many games would you watch next season if we brought russ back?

Srs question

 

[MajinZuub]

Always been my favorite Kobe moment

 

[lovehateself]

How many games would you watch next season if we brought russ back?

Srs question

if this team hires doc rivers
i will go into exile like essential1

 

[grittyman]

Lakers shouldn’t give up any picks to get rid of an expiring contract.

If that means stretch and waive or bringing him back so be it.

 

[Lizakers]

Will still watch games regardless

Unfortunately

 

[frink85]

the "Kobe Stopper"