**LA LAKERS THREAD** Sitting on 17! 2023-2024 offseason begins

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He didn't say everyone.

Also I'm positive you're conflating people going 'I mean hell, why not?' with people giving him a shining ring of endorsement. I would venture to argue no one gave him a shining ring of endorsement. It was more of a 'Hell, he's not Luke Walton so eff it.'
Just arguing for the sake of arguing bro.
 
All I'm saying is this,

Last year we gave Vogel a lot of hell. And I know some of us knew it wasn't all his fault. We had a broken roster last year just like we do this year.

But continuing to blame the coach for some of these losses....

I'm not gonna blame Ham for last night. Missing Bron/AD and going against a team that just had WAY too many shooters while Dennis and Pat couldn't put anything in the hole, plus all the missed free throws.

C CP1708 said after Vogel got fired, we (fans) would be piling on the next guy once we started losing some games....

And it's happening as we speak.

"Arguing just to argue, bro" :lol

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"Arguing just to argue, bro" :lol

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You are. Because what you've said over the years is not what tupac003 tupac003 just said.

You petition for 0 coach slander. Anyone knocks the coach, you swoop in with laughing emojis and condescension...

... just to argue. I have never seen you say anything close to what he just said.
 
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BLOBBETY BLUE BLAH…. BUT THAT’S MY POINT!!!!!!

Who’s actually arguing that coaches won’t be scapegoated when a team loses? No one.

But do you bro
 
You petition for 0 coach slander.

Heh, I think I see where you're at here. I think you missed/ignored a lot of my points over the years.
Witness:

MDA sucks! #Rotations
Luke sucks! #Rotations
Vogel suck! #Rotations
Ham sucks! #Rotations

8o

Same team. Same fanbase. 4 diff coaches. Same "rotations" narrative. Rinse and repeat.

When the team wins (better players) the rotations talk quiets down. (Kobe hot streak for MDA, Luke GSW tenure, Vogel 2020 Title run)

But when the tank is empty. #Rotations!

I'm saying none of us know what they know. We all hate 3 guard lineups. Maybe they give the most in practice. Maybe they watch the film most. Maybe Bev/Dennis the only ones that step up to guard the Tatum's or Kawhi's. Ham might even hate it, but if the other guys work 2 hours a day and the 3 guards work 8 hours a day, he feels he has no choice.

It might suck, but maybe he's tried the other variations in practice and those suck more. Maybe the injuries cause it. (AD, Lonnie, Reaves etc)

Maybe it will clear up with more Rui + Reaves back. Maybe Ham really does suck, I don't know. But I can def see patterns. And fanbases using the same #Rotations nonsense coach after coach is a large pattern. I'm talkin a decade worth of evidence here.
 
Pretty sure they're in the tax too. Just confusing all around.
If they enter this off season WITH cap space, they will avoid (more like delay) repeater tax.

Cap space teams rarely have the opportunity to enter the luxury tax apron.

In other words, if they don’t make a trade to take back more salary- they will be avoid repeater tax.

It is possible that they don’t make trade and STILL pay repeater tax: if they resign Russ to like 30 mill and Pat Bev to 15 and Rui to 10

Lol
 
every coach makes decisions you can question the morning after

Every single one

The issues we have is the roster. It’s an imbalanced roster - too many guards and non shooters, no defensive centers - with our highest paid player being unreliable due to costly mistakes and decisions

Who owns the roster decisions?
 
every coach makes decisions you can question the morning after

Every single one

The issues we have is the roster. It’s an imbalanced roster - too many guards and non shooters, no defensive centers - with our highest paid player being unreliable due to costly mistakes and decisions

Who owns the roster decisions?

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And whoever else is in the circle jerk of trust....
 
every coach makes decisions you can question the morning after

Every single one

The issues we have is the roster. It’s an imbalanced roster - too many guards and non shooters, no defensive centers - with our highest paid player being unreliable due to costly mistakes and decisions

Who owns the roster decisions?
And we ALL understand that.

Like didn’t I basically say the same exact last night?

But I shouldn’t say all, cause one person wants to come through and really argue about this
 
If coaching didn’t matter in the NBA, we'd see a lot more player-coaches.

But for some reason, it hasn't happened since Bill Russell LOL

#gofigurethatoneout
 
C CP1708 said after Vogel got fired, we (fans) would be piling on the next guy once we started losing some games....

And it's happening as we speak.

You are. Because what you've said over the years is not what tupac003 tupac003 just said.

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Like I told you, I BEEN said this **** since the Luke days.

Maybe you didn't see it back then, maybe you weren't on NT for a minute, whatever. But I ain't never wavered.

Ham's day will come, and then it will be the next. Favorite this now, flag it, like it, take a picture of it, whatever you need. A year from now, we gon do this all over again. If we can actually get some talent on the team and replace a bunch of stiffs, then "suddenly" Ham will be a good coach. :smokin
 
And we ALL understand that.

Like didn’t I basically say the same exact last night?

But I shouldn’t say all, cause one person wants to come through and really argue about this

I wasn't trying to start an argument...

It's just CP has said this for so long....

Past couple of Days ham had caught a lot of flak and now some of the twitter fools are starting to pile on when IMO, Jeanie and Rob should get way more blame for the last few years.

I think Vogel is still coach if they don't make that bonehead move to trade for Russ and really strip the roster of what Vogel needed for his defense....
 
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