**LA LAKERS THREAD** Sitting on 17! 2023-2024 offseason begins

Team is currently at about $146,234,983.00.

Hardcap is $172,000,000.

They are $25,765,017 below with 4 spots to fill. But realistically 3 spots to fill (leaving 15th spot empty)

4 mill of that will go to 2 vet minimum signings so 21,765,017 is most D’lo can get per year. They prob want more room under the hardcap

Signing Castleton saves like 1 mill so can bump that to 22,765,017 if need be. 20 sounds fair. 18 is sweet spot given market.

Letting D’lo walk for nothing and doing all 3 slots as vet min puts our salary as $152, 234,983

That difference of 18 mill-20 mill in extra salary will probably add like 40 mill in taxes so the question is:

Will Jeanie let D’lo walk to save 60 mill or sign him to raise the teams ceiling?
 
It just hit me:

Lakers pay no luxury tax if they stay below 165,293,000 salary

They are currently at 146,234,983. They def gonna add a Colin Castleton type to lower the delta between that number and our cap.

With Castleton, 1 vet min (2 mill) so that’s 16,000,000 or so left for D’lo before tax is reached.

Wonder if that’s what they are fighting over!

That means lakers either stay well below tax like by letting D’lo walk and earning money from redistribution by other team or sign him for 20 mill or so and pay the repeater tax.

Difference between letting D’lo walk for nothing and paying him more than 16 may be 60-80 million dollars
 
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Los Angeles Lakers

Deals:
  • Agreed to a reported three-year, $33 million deal with guard Gabe Vincent
  • Agreed to a reported one-year, $4.5 million deal with forward Taurean Prince
  • Agreed to a reported three-year, $51 million deal to re-sign forward Rui Hachimura
  • Agreed to a reported two-year deal with guard Cam Reddish

Before taking care of their own free agents, the Lakers spent the opening hours of free agency adding to their roster using exceptions. Vincent's deal will utilize the non-taxpayer midlevel exception, while Prince gets the biannual exception, both of which will serve to hard cap the Lakers at the first luxury-tax apron of $172 million.

That restriction shouldn't prevent the Lakers from bringing back young starters Austin Reaves and D'Angelo Russell, in addition to Hachimura. Reaves' first-year salary is capped at $12.4 million, whether he re-signs with the Lakers outright or they match a backloaded offer sheet to him using the so-called "Gilbert Arenas provision" of the CBA.

Add in a pair of minimum contracts, as well as second-round pick Maxwell Lewis and that would give the Lakers about $25 million to use on Russell or other free agents.

Taking a step back, let's look at what the Lakers' roster would look like if they bring back their other two young free agents. Vincent would join a backcourt rotation with Reaves and Russell, giving them a more physical defender at the point of attack.

After watching Vincent start throughout the Miami Heat's run to the NBA Finals, the Lakers can feel good about trusting him at the highest levels of playoff competition -- something they were unable to do with Russell in the Western Conference finals.

At the same time, the Vincent we saw average 30.5 MPG in the 2023 playoffs was different in an important way from the version who was a part-time starter during the regular season. Vincent hit 38% of his 3s in the playoffs after making just 33% during the regular season, more in line with his career mark (34%).

As a below-average 3-point shooter, Vincent has scored inefficiently during the regular season. His .533 true shooting percentage in 2022-23 was closer to Russell Westbrook's .496 mark (albeit at lower volume) than D'Angelo Russell's career-high .610. So the Lakers are to some degree betting on Vincent's playoff shooting carrying over. At least that bet is on a player in his prime (age 27) who can capably defend his position.

Something similar is true of Hachimura, who also rode a playoff hot streak from beyond the arc (49% on 39 attempts) after shooting just 30% following his midseason trade to the Lakers. A career 35% 3-point shooter, Hachimura should settle in somewhere between those extremes, and just how close he gets to 40% will determine whether he can justify a deal that pays him like a starter.

At 25, Hachimura is still on the upswing, and he demonstrated in the playoffs he can hold his own defensively so long as Anthony Davis or LeBron James is alongside him.

Reddish follows a similar script. Both were lottery picks in 2019 (Hachimura ninth, Reddish 10th) who haven't yet produced at that level in the NBA. Reddish, long rumored as a Lakers target via trade, bounced around to three teams on his rookie contract, starting for the Portland Trail Blazers after a midseason deal last year but not changing his outlook in free agency.

Again, shooting is the question mark. Reddish has hit 32% of his career 3s, making him a tough fit on a team always desperate to space the floor around its stars. In this case, the price was unquestionably right. Having committed their exceptions elsewhere, the Lakers landed Reddish on a two-year deal at the veteran's minimum with a player option on the second season.

Waived by the Minnesota Timberwolves earlier this week before his $7.65 million salary for this year guaranteed, Prince looks like an upgrade on the parade of minimum-salary forwards the Lakers have signed the past two summers. A 37% career 3-point shooter, Prince will offer floor-spacing and the ability to defend either forward spot depending on matchups, slotting in with Hachimura behind James and Jarred Vanderbilt.

The Lakers could still stand to add a backup center after waiving Mo Bamba earlier this week. Barring a surprising defection by one of their other free agents, however, the Lakers have an eight-player playoff rotation in place that looks at full strength like an upgrade on last year's team that reached the Western Conference finals.
 
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Los Angeles Lakers

Deals:
  • Agreed to a reported three-year, $33 million deal with guard Gabe Vincent
  • Agreed to a reported one-year, $4.5 million deal with forward Taurean Prince
  • Agreed to a reported three-year, $51 million deal to re-sign forward Rui Hachimura
  • Agreed to a reported two-year deal with guard Cam Reddish

Before taking care of their own free agents, the Lakers spent the opening hours of free agency adding to their roster using exceptions. Vincent's deal will utilize the non-taxpayer midlevel exception, while Prince gets the biannual exception, both of which will serve to hard cap the Lakers at the first luxury-tax apron of $172 million.

That restriction shouldn't prevent the Lakers from bringing back young starters Austin Reaves and D'Angelo Russell, in addition to Hachimura. Reaves' first-year salary is capped at $12.4 million, whether he re-signs with the Lakers outright or they match a backloaded offer sheet to him using the so-called "Gilbert Arenas provision" of the CBA.

Add in a pair of minimum contracts, as well as second-round pick Maxwell Lewis and that would give the Lakers about $25 million to use on Russell or other free agents.

Taking a step back, let's look at what the Lakers' roster would look like if they bring back their other two young free agents. Vincent would join a backcourt rotation with Reaves and Russell, giving them a more physical defender at the point of attack.

After watching Vincent start throughout the Miami Heat's run to the NBA Finals, the Lakers can feel good about trusting him at the highest levels of playoff competition -- something they were unable to do with Russell in the Western Conference finals.

At the same time, the Vincent we saw average 30.5 MPG in the 2023 playoffs was different in an important way from the version who was a part-time starter during the regular season. Vincent hit 38% of his 3s in the playoffs after making just 33% during the regular season, more in line with his career mark (34%).

As a below-average 3-point shooter, Vincent has scored inefficiently during the regular season. His .533 true shooting percentage in 2022-23 was closer to Russell Westbrook's .496 mark (albeit at lower volume) than D'Angelo Russell's career-high .610. So the Lakers are to some degree betting on Vincent's playoff shooting carrying over. At least that bet is on a player in his prime (age 27) who can capably defend his position.

Something similar is true of Hachimura, who also rode a playoff hot streak from beyond the arc (49% on 39 attempts) after shooting just 30% following his midseason trade to the Lakers. A career 35% 3-point shooter, Hachimura should settle in somewhere between those extremes, and just how close he gets to 40% will determine whether he can justify a deal that pays him like a starter.

At 25, Hachimura is still on the upswing, and he demonstrated in the playoffs he can hold his own defensively so long as Anthony Davis or LeBron James is alongside him.

Reddish follows a similar script. Both were lottery picks in 2019 (Hachimura ninth, Reddish 10th) who haven't yet produced at that level in the NBA. Reddish, long rumored as a Lakers target via trade, bounced around to three teams on his rookie contract, starting for the Portland Trail Blazers after a midseason deal last year but not changing his outlook in free agency.

Again, shooting is the question mark. Reddish has hit 32% of his career 3s, making him a tough fit on a team always desperate to space the floor around its stars. In this case, the price was unquestionably right. Having committed their exceptions elsewhere, the Lakers landed Reddish on a two-year deal at the veteran's minimum with a player option on the second season.

Waived by the Minnesota Timberwolves earlier this week before his $7.65 million salary for this year guaranteed, Prince looks like an upgrade on the parade of minimum-salary forwards the Lakers have signed the past two summers. A 37% career 3-point shooter, Prince will offer floor-spacing and the ability to defend either forward spot depending on matchups, slotting in with Hachimura behind James and Jarred Vanderbilt.

The Lakers could still stand to add a backup center after waiving Mo Bamba earlier this week. Barring a surprising defection by one of their other free agents, however, the Lakers have an eight-player playoff rotation in place that looks at full strength like an upgrade on last year's team that reached the Western Conference finals.
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surprised this dude hasn't given us a C+ or something lol
 
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