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LeBron James wants to win more championships. Could that lead him to turn down a Lakers extension?

This is starting to feel like a marriage of convenience.

LeBron James knows there’s only one place where he can get paid max money to play alongside Anthony Davis while maybe — just maybe — finding a way to contend for a title again. He knows the all-time scoring record is in reach next season, and the notion of breaking Kareem Abdul-Jabbar’s hallowed mark while wearing the purple and gold would be the stuff of Lakers storybooks. Add in the powerful combination of the Lakers and the Los Angeles scene, how living in that part of the world and playing for that storied franchise comes with a long list of benefits for both his off-court business and his family, and one could make a strong argument there’s nowhere else he should want to go.

Dysfunction be damned.

Yet in the wake of the messy Frank Vogel firing that dominated the Lakers’ exit interviews with the media on Monday, James left one key question unanswered during his 25-minute session with reporters: How long might this imperfect basketball union last?

When James was asked about his plans for this August, when he’s eligible for a two-year extension worth $97.1 million that would secure his services through the summer of 2025, it came as a surprise to hear him hedge on his Lakers future even the slightest bit. Even with the stir James created at the All-Star break, when he left the masses wondering if he might want a trade this summer, the late-February meeting between his agent Rich Paul, Lakers owner Jeanie Buss and president of basketball operations Rob Pelinka had left everyone talking about a long-term partnership again. And now … this.

“The conversation hasn’t been talked about,” James began. “Technically it’s because (with) the collective bargaining agreement (it) cannot even be discussed until later on in the year. So, you know, I know what’s out there. But we can’t even — myself and Rich — can’t even begin to talk with Rob, or the front office at all, because of the collective bargaining agreement. So (when) we get to that point, we’ll see.”

We’ll see? If that doesn’t show you James is still reading the Lakers room right now, then nothing else will. Then again, can anyone blame him for continuing to reassess a situation that looks as sideways now as it did when Magic Johnson walked off the Staples Center set back on April 10 of 2019?

Consider this much: By the time James addressed reporters, nearly 12 hours had passed since ESPN reported that Vogel would be fired and put the coach in the uncomfortable position of addressing the matter in his postgame news conference.

“I haven’t been told ****,” Vogel had famously said.

Yet still, despite the fact that the Lakers sent media members an email about the timing of James’ interview just 32 minutes after the Vogel report, sources say the team still hadn’t formally told Vogel of his fate by the time James was asked to address it. The Lakers finally announced the decision at 10:58 a.m., by way of a 160-word release. Rest assured, it was not just the reporters accusing them of (very avoidable) disrespect toward a man who had led the franchise to its 17th title less than 18 months before.

“Well, I mean, I only can control what I could control, Sam,” James said when I asked (via Zoom) if he had any issues with the way the organization had handled Vogel’s exit. “And at the end of the day, I knew what time I was coming to speak to y’all. So I woke up extra early, got my daughter ready for school, dropped her off at school, and I came down here to see y’all.

“And I was here at 8:45 and ready to start. It would have been at 9:00 on the dot, but (his longtime media adviser) Adam Mendelsohn kept me for a couple more minutes than I needed to be kept for, so I was in here at 9:03. So I apologize for those three minutes. But I can only control what I can control, Sam, and you can’t worry about, you know, what’s going on outside and how people feel and things of that nature, you know? So there’s a lot of things that could be done a certain way, can be done better this way or that way. But when decisions (are) made, you’re never going to, you know, never gonna make everybody happy. So that’s just the way it is.”

He may as well have said, “I just work here.”

Make no mistake, the messiness matters — to James and every other Lakers employee who simply wishes they’d do better. But James most of all.

Any athlete of James’ stature, and at this late stage of his career, wants the organization for which he excels to win on the margins. And this sort of managerial style, it’s safe to say, isn’t the kind of thing that inspires confidence. As if the power dynamics already in play in Laker Land weren’t proving to be tricky enough in these past few months.

As James himself so subtly highlighted, the key element here — control — is one that will continue to be front and center as this imperfect pairing continues. It’s not as if James lacks influence in his work life. Far from it. After all, he was the driving force behind the Russell Westbrook trade that played a massive part in derailing the Lakers’ season. But there have been plenty of times in his Lakers experience when he didn’t get his way too.

If James truly had the deciding vote, Ty Lue would have been hired as head coach in the summer of 2019 rather than Vogel. Ditto for Jason Kidd, who was Vogel’s lead assistant with the Lakers the past two seasons before heading to Dallas last summer.

And here’s a tidbit to monitor as the Lakers conduct their latest coaching search: Sources say James would be very enthused by the prospect of Mark Jackson landing the job. But as history tells us, that doesn’t mean it will actually happen.

Yet while James has shown a willingness to yield when his viewpoint isn’t deemed the difference-maker, that doesn’t mean there aren’t concerns that have been compartmentalized all along the way. At the age of 37, and on the heels of a season in which he played at an MVP-caliber level while leading a team that somehow managed to go nowhere, he’s well aware this Lakers franchise has the kind of foundational faults that were exposed all over again this season.

He knows the team would be better off by bolstering the basketball operations infrastructure, changing the well-deserved narrative that they’re run like a “mom-and-pop shop” by adding experienced executives to work alongside president of basketball operations Pelinka (who continues to have Jeanie’s support) and his right-hand man, Kurt Rambis (who is also expected to remain as a divisive and extremely influential presence). This is a Lakers front office that inspires a deep distrust and frustration in many of its rival front-office executives and agents — a reality that doesn’t bode well for roster improvement in this desperate time. Still, the reluctance remains to address these problems that are common knowledge around the league.

James surely knows the Lakers should improve the scouting and analytics departments too, investing in the kind of bright basketball minds who could create a competitive edge during these later years of his storied career. A first step, many would argue, would be to create and support the kind of inclusive and collaborative culture where solutions tend to rise to the surface.

James and his associates aren’t blind to any of this.

So with all that in mind, what comes next in James’ Lakers life?

Based on my conversations with people who have a strong sense of such things, it’s clear James is considering playing out this contract rather than signing a two-year extension this summer. If flexibility and freedom are the goals here, James (who is owed $44.4 million next season) could go back to the year-by-year approach he perfected in his second Cleveland stop.

As he has made abundantly clear of late, he’ll do everything he can to play with his son, Bronny Jr., when and if he makes the jump to the NBA (in the summer of 2024, at the earliest). Signing one-year deals is a surefire way to avoid any contractual obstacles to that dream scenario. And if he has to take less than max money at some point to make it happen, then so be it.

First things first, though, there’s the Westbrook quandary that simply must be solved (assuming he exercises the $47 million player option on his deal). As our Shams Charania reported Monday, Indiana is seen as a possible trade partner. Charlotte is widely considered another.

Yet despite James’ well-chronicled endorsement of the L.A. Rams’ “**** them picks” approach, the Lakers’ asset cabinet is already too bare to be reckless with their first-rounders in 2027 and 2029. As our John Hollinger laid out so well here, it’s a rock-and-a-hard-place dilemma if ever there was one. But if Westbrook remains, there will be significant pressure for him to take on the sixth-man role that some key Lakers figures believe he should have embraced this season.

For James’ part, he offered a reminder on Monday that shouldn’t be overlooked: He’s not in Laker Land merely to sell tickets. The pursuit of another championship — a fifth for him and an 18th for a Lakers organization that so badly wants to break its tie with the rival Celtics — remains a major priority.

No matter where he plays.

“I came here to win a championship; I want to win more,” James said matter of factly. “So I accomplished what I wanted to accomplish, but I’m still hungry for more. … I’m confident that this organization wants the same. It’s what this organization has always been about.”

“What they’ve done (with) decade and decade and decade and decades of winning. But yeah, when I signed here, you know, when Magic was here and you know, Rob was here obviously — Rob’s still here. I told him that I want to … help this franchise become a champion once again. So I’ve done that. We’ve done that. But I want to do it again.”
 


LeBron James wants to win more championships. Could that lead him to turn down a Lakers extension?

This is starting to feel like a marriage of convenience.

LeBron James knows there’s only one place where he can get paid max money to play alongside Anthony Davis while maybe — just maybe — finding a way to contend for a title again. He knows the all-time scoring record is in reach next season, and the notion of breaking Kareem Abdul-Jabbar’s hallowed mark while wearing the purple and gold would be the stuff of Lakers storybooks. Add in the powerful combination of the Lakers and the Los Angeles scene, how living in that part of the world and playing for that storied franchise comes with a long list of benefits for both his off-court business and his family, and one could make a strong argument there’s nowhere else he should want to go.

Dysfunction be damned.

Yet in the wake of the messy Frank Vogel firing that dominated the Lakers’ exit interviews with the media on Monday, James left one key question unanswered during his 25-minute session with reporters: How long might this imperfect basketball union last?

When James was asked about his plans for this August, when he’s eligible for a two-year extension worth $97.1 million that would secure his services through the summer of 2025, it came as a surprise to hear him hedge on his Lakers future even the slightest bit. Even with the stir James created at the All-Star break, when he left the masses wondering if he might want a trade this summer, the late-February meeting between his agent Rich Paul, Lakers owner Jeanie Buss and president of basketball operations Rob Pelinka had left everyone talking about a long-term partnership again. And now … this.

“The conversation hasn’t been talked about,” James began. “Technically it’s because (with) the collective bargaining agreement (it) cannot even be discussed until later on in the year. So, you know, I know what’s out there. But we can’t even — myself and Rich — can’t even begin to talk with Rob, or the front office at all, because of the collective bargaining agreement. So (when) we get to that point, we’ll see.”

We’ll see? If that doesn’t show you James is still reading the Lakers room right now, then nothing else will. Then again, can anyone blame him for continuing to reassess a situation that looks as sideways now as it did when Magic Johnson walked off the Staples Center set back on April 10 of 2019?

Consider this much: By the time James addressed reporters, nearly 12 hours had passed since ESPN reported that Vogel would be fired and put the coach in the uncomfortable position of addressing the matter in his postgame news conference.

“I haven’t been told ****,” Vogel had famously said.

Yet still, despite the fact that the Lakers sent media members an email about the timing of James’ interview just 32 minutes after the Vogel report, sources say the team still hadn’t formally told Vogel of his fate by the time James was asked to address it. The Lakers finally announced the decision at 10:58 a.m., by way of a 160-word release. Rest assured, it was not just the reporters accusing them of (very avoidable) disrespect toward a man who had led the franchise to its 17th title less than 18 months before.

“Well, I mean, I only can control what I could control, Sam,” James said when I asked (via Zoom) if he had any issues with the way the organization had handled Vogel’s exit. “And at the end of the day, I knew what time I was coming to speak to y’all. So I woke up extra early, got my daughter ready for school, dropped her off at school, and I came down here to see y’all.

“And I was here at 8:45 and ready to start. It would have been at 9:00 on the dot, but (his longtime media adviser) Adam Mendelsohn kept me for a couple more minutes than I needed to be kept for, so I was in here at 9:03. So I apologize for those three minutes. But I can only control what I can control, Sam, and you can’t worry about, you know, what’s going on outside and how people feel and things of that nature, you know? So there’s a lot of things that could be done a certain way, can be done better this way or that way. But when decisions (are) made, you’re never going to, you know, never gonna make everybody happy. So that’s just the way it is.”

He may as well have said, “I just work here.”

Make no mistake, the messiness matters — to James and every other Lakers employee who simply wishes they’d do better. But James most of all.

Any athlete of James’ stature, and at this late stage of his career, wants the organization for which he excels to win on the margins. And this sort of managerial style, it’s safe to say, isn’t the kind of thing that inspires confidence. As if the power dynamics already in play in Laker Land weren’t proving to be tricky enough in these past few months.

As James himself so subtly highlighted, the key element here — control — is one that will continue to be front and center as this imperfect pairing continues. It’s not as if James lacks influence in his work life. Far from it. After all, he was the driving force behind the Russell Westbrook trade that played a massive part in derailing the Lakers’ season. But there have been plenty of times in his Lakers experience when he didn’t get his way too.

If James truly had the deciding vote, Ty Lue would have been hired as head coach in the summer of 2019 rather than Vogel. Ditto for Jason Kidd, who was Vogel’s lead assistant with the Lakers the past two seasons before heading to Dallas last summer.

And here’s a tidbit to monitor as the Lakers conduct their latest coaching search: Sources say James would be very enthused by the prospect of Mark Jackson landing the job. But as history tells us, that doesn’t mean it will actually happen.

Yet while James has shown a willingness to yield when his viewpoint isn’t deemed the difference-maker, that doesn’t mean there aren’t concerns that have been compartmentalized all along the way. At the age of 37, and on the heels of a season in which he played at an MVP-caliber level while leading a team that somehow managed to go nowhere, he’s well aware this Lakers franchise has the kind of foundational faults that were exposed all over again this season.

He knows the team would be better off by bolstering the basketball operations infrastructure, changing the well-deserved narrative that they’re run like a “mom-and-pop shop” by adding experienced executives to work alongside president of basketball operations Pelinka (who continues to have Jeanie’s support) and his right-hand man, Kurt Rambis (who is also expected to remain as a divisive and extremely influential presence). This is a Lakers front office that inspires a deep distrust and frustration in many of its rival front-office executives and agents — a reality that doesn’t bode well for roster improvement in this desperate time. Still, the reluctance remains to address these problems that are common knowledge around the league.

James surely knows the Lakers should improve the scouting and analytics departments too, investing in the kind of bright basketball minds who could create a competitive edge during these later years of his storied career. A first step, many would argue, would be to create and support the kind of inclusive and collaborative culture where solutions tend to rise to the surface.

James and his associates aren’t blind to any of this.

So with all that in mind, what comes next in James’ Lakers life?

Based on my conversations with people who have a strong sense of such things, it’s clear James is considering playing out this contract rather than signing a two-year extension this summer. If flexibility and freedom are the goals here, James (who is owed $44.4 million next season) could go back to the year-by-year approach he perfected in his second Cleveland stop.

As he has made abundantly clear of late, he’ll do everything he can to play with his son, Bronny Jr., when and if he makes the jump to the NBA (in the summer of 2024, at the earliest). Signing one-year deals is a surefire way to avoid any contractual obstacles to that dream scenario. And if he has to take less than max money at some point to make it happen, then so be it.

First things first, though, there’s the Westbrook quandary that simply must be solved (assuming he exercises the $47 million player option on his deal). As our Shams Charania reported Monday, Indiana is seen as a possible trade partner. Charlotte is widely considered another.

Yet despite James’ well-chronicled endorsement of the L.A. Rams’ “**** them picks” approach, the Lakers’ asset cabinet is already too bare to be reckless with their first-rounders in 2027 and 2029. As our John Hollinger laid out so well here, it’s a rock-and-a-hard-place dilemma if ever there was one. But if Westbrook remains, there will be significant pressure for him to take on the sixth-man role that some key Lakers figures believe he should have embraced this season.

For James’ part, he offered a reminder on Monday that shouldn’t be overlooked: He’s not in Laker Land merely to sell tickets. The pursuit of another championship — a fifth for him and an 18th for a Lakers organization that so badly wants to break its tie with the rival Celtics — remains a major priority.

No matter where he plays.

“I came here to win a championship; I want to win more,” James said matter of factly. “So I accomplished what I wanted to accomplish, but I’m still hungry for more. … I’m confident that this organization wants the same. It’s what this organization has always been about.”

“What they’ve done (with) decade and decade and decade and decades of winning. But yeah, when I signed here, you know, when Magic was here and you know, Rob was here obviously — Rob’s still here. I told him that I want to … help this franchise become a champion once again. So I’ve done that. We’ve done that. But I want to do it again.”

With all due respect.
 
Best thing moving forward is to eat up 1 more year of Westbrick’s contact ($47 mil off the books next year), pray that AD stays healthy this upcoming season to up his trade value then ship his sorry *** out.

Finally do NOT sign LeBron to an extension. Either let him play out his final season or trade him for picks and final year contract players.

Then start with a clean slate the following season. Enough of Klutch holding this franchise by the huevos.
 
Best thing moving forward is to eat up 1 more year of Westbrick’s contact ($47 mil off the books next year), pray that AD stays healthy this upcoming season to up his trade value then ship his sorry *** out.

Finally do NOT sign LeBron to an extension. Either let him play out his final season or trade him for picks and final year contract players.

Then start with a clean slate the following season. Enough of Klutch holding this franchise by the huevos.
At this point, I trust Klutch more than Jeanie'nem. 🤷‍♂️

-foe
 
Please please please lower expectations.

Rob’s big moves:
1st year: Lance, Beasley, Rondo (that Rondo was awful and costed 9 mill), Zubac trade- Muscala walked, Svi trade- Bullock walked.

3rd year: Shroeder, Harrell, gasol. Shroeder is a now a perennial 3-5 mill dollar a year player meanwhile we offered him 84 mill and wanted to pair him with AD Long term lol. Harrell was played off the court a month prior and didn’t fit the scheme.

4th year: Westbrick, Ariza, Wayne, DJ, Rondo, letting Caruso walk, THTs weirdly player friendly contract. Signing 15 guards.


2nd year is unique. Technically he failed to land kawhi and if reports are true was tricked to waste time. But we will give him credit for this year since we won a title. (Although if im playing devils advocate, the players we got kind of were all the left overs in free agency lol)
 
Firing Vogel after the game sends a terrible message. This FO is tragic. Can’t blame **** like that on Klutch.

We have to somehow bat 1000 to fix this team in the off-season 🤦🏿‍♂️
 
I really don't think that was them.

Then people will say that's fake news, that they definitely did bring Westbrick in. 🤣

-foe
Ramona Shelbourne reported they wanted Demar. Don’t think we could’ve gotten him though
 


Russell Westbrook’s lack of self-awareness apparent in his deflection and blame during Lakers exit interviews

While many Los Angeles Lakers players preached accountability and self-reflection over the issues that plagued their team during exit interviews on Monday, Russell Westbrook remained defiantly in denial about why things went awry.

Throughout his 21-minute post-exit-interview press conference, Westbrook doubled down on the consistent excuses he used amid a subpar season — and debuted new explanations to absolve his responsibility in constructing his Lakers experience.

Westbrook believes one of the primary issues with his season was that his negative reputation preceded him and he was never given a “fair chance” with the organization.

“When I first got here, unfortunately, people create narratives of who I am, and what I do, and what I believe in, that just aren’t true,” Westbrook said. “I’m always having to prove myself again year after year after year, which to me is really unfair. There’s no reason for me to have to do that. So when I first got in here, I just felt that I never was given a fair chance just to be who I needed to be to help this team.”

Westbrook specifically mentioned recent media reports that detailed his disconnect with the Lakers’ coaching staff behind the scenes due to his unwillingness to accept criticism or adapt from his ball-dominant game.

“The famous ‘source’ stories that came out about myself, whether it be between me and the staff, me and Frank, me and the fans, there’s just so many made-up stories that are not true,” Westbrook said. “It’s just always having to fight against that constantly. It’s just not (being) given a fair chance.”

When asked to directly refute a report or anecdote, Westbrook declined.

“No,” Westbrook said. “I can’t. You know the examples. I don’t want to get in details, what story, who wrote it, why … it’s pointless. It really doesn’t matter because it’s not true. If it doesn’t come from me (it is not true).”

Westbrook’s criticism quickly extended to former head coach Frank Vogel, who was fired on Monday morning.

After regularly taking veiled shots at Vogel, particularly after games in which Vogel benched him during the fourth quarter, Westbrook attempted to flip the narrative and say that Vogel instead had a problem with him.

“I think it’s unfortunate, to be honest, because I’ve never had an issue with any of my coaches before,” Westbrook said. “I’m not sure what his issue was with me or I’m not sure why, but I can’t really give you an answer to why we really never connected …

“That’s something that he has to answer. But I never, from the get-go, was feeling like (we were on the same page.) I was having to try to prove myself to him and my capabilities and what I’ve been able to do for this game. And it’s unfortunate but it’s really not (my fault). It’s kind of out of my hands.”

Multiple recent media reports contradict that notion, though.

Vogel was reportedly one of Westbrook’s lone allies, optimistically believing that he would eventually turn his play around and insisting that he remain in the starting lineup despite some in the organization pleading for Vogel to bring Westbrook off the bench to split him and James up.

The postgame comments throughout the season refute that sentiment, too.

Westbrook repeatedly criticized Vogel and the coaching staff in a passive-aggressive manner. Meanwhile, Vogel routinely defended Westbrook’s performance despite his starting point guard clanking jumpers, throwing passes out of bounds and failing to rotate or keep track of his man defensively.

Westbrook’s teammates noticed the negative trickle-down effect of the disconnect.

“You’re talking about the point guard of our team, right? That’s usually the head of the snake,” Wayne Ellington said. “He doesn’t feel like he had the best year of his career by any means, but as the point guard of the team, if he doesn’t feel comfortable on the floor, he doesn’t feel the connection within his game, that kind of trickles down as well.”

Westbrook’s grievances then moved on to his on-court dynamic with his star teammates, LeBron James and Anthony Davis.

In postgame press conferences, James and Davis supported the concept of “let Russ be Russ” as the best strategy to empower Westbrook and unlock the best version of the former MVP.

But Westbrook revealed that he felt that notion was disingenuous.

“Yeah, (they said it),” Westbrook said. “But that wasn’t true. Let’s be honest.”

He also took another shot at Vogel, placing much of the blame on the star trio’s lackluster record — they were 11-10 in their 21 games together — on the way they were used offensively, while also mentioning their obvious fit issues and unfortunate health.

“I mean, it’s a combination of where we are on the floor, positioning, fit and challenge, trial and error, being able to play on the floor with each other,” Westbrook said. “Finding ways to be able to utilize us to the best of our abilities. It’s that simple.”

Westbrook said he was “very rarely” able to feel like himself in Los Angeles.

“I embraced every change,” Westbrook said. “There wasn’t a time where I was like, ‘Oh, I’m not doing this.’ There were conversations where I may have felt like what I bring to this team and my abilities to be able to help the team win may not have been in the cards of kind of how the coaching staff wanted to play. … I was coming in with open arms. I got no reason to (refuse anything). I knew coming here I would have to make the biggest sacrifice of anyone.”

To his credit, he acknowledged that his play was below his own standards for one of the few times this season.

But he partially neutralized the impact of his commentary by shifting to a more ego-driven tone. He said that his internal scale is the only opinion he cares about — another sign he doesn’t process external feedback/criticism — and then added that his biggest gripe with his statistical production was that he didn’t hit his usual triple-double averages.

“Just my play, in general, not my best season,” Westbrook said. “Just going off my own personal scale, because that’s the only thing I go off of regardless of this season. … Obviously I’m coming off averaging a triple-double, so anything less than that would not be a good season for me in my eyes, you know what I’m saying? So that’s why the scale of where it comes from is a little bit different.”

Westbrook also acknowledged the effects of his problems with his hometown crowd, whom he discussed with a dismissive tone in the final weeks of the season after taking offense to the crowd shaming his surname by calling him “Westbrick.” The Crpyto.com Arena crowd booed Westbrook over a half-dozen times during the season, forming a hostile dynamic that he felt uncomfortable bringing his family around. His contract and underperformance made him an easy target.

“I would probably say the only thing that was a problem or issue was with just the reception I got from people here,” Westbrook said. “For any reason, whatever that may be. Whether it’s the fans or whatever, it wasn’t so great.”

All told, Westbrook isn’t wrong. There is some truth in some of his pushback. The Lakers’ troubles aren’t binary. Westbrook has probably received too great a share of the overall blame. There are numerous factors that compounded into a disappointing 33-49 record and the West’s 11th spot.

But Westbrook’s attempt to deflect and finger-point ultimately rings hollow.

The Lakers indisputably went out of their way to accommodate their highest-paid player ($44 million), from giving him spots in the starting and closing lineups at times he didn’t deserve them, to letting him handle primary ballhandling duties, to handling him with kid gloves in critical media sessions. Vogel tweaked his defensive schemes to factor in Westbrook’s limitations.

Even Westbrook’s superstar teammates made notable adjustments. Davis slid up to center more despite his historic hesitance to better space the floor. James even played some small-ball center, and implemented more screening, rolling and cutting into his game to remain effective off the ball when Westbrook had it.

In contrast, Westbrook, who promised James and Davis last offseason that he would adjust more than either player, never expanded his skill set to become effective without the ball in his hands. He rarely screened on or off the ball, cut hard, or relocated around the perimeter.

Westbrook obviously sacrificed, to some extent, by sharing ballhandling duties with James in crunch time and pivotal moments (and sometimes even ceding them). But that’s about the bare minimum when stars are teaming up. Otherwise, he was largely the same player, with the same strengths, only decreased, and the same weaknesses, only increased. He also clearly cares more about external perception and validation than he tries to let on.

On the whole, there is a clear cognitive dissonance between the player Westbrook is and the player he thinks he is.

He is no longer an All-Star or All-NBA player. He’s declined as a jump-shooter, finisher and defender. He was arguably the worst high-volume shooter in the league. He no longer impacts games with his energy and effort the way he used to.

His lack of gravity can suffocate his team’s offense, barring the other four players all being above-average shooters. It’s difficult for a coach to find four shooters to place around Westbrook in every lineup. His turnovers are often momentum-swinging. Defensively, he’s typically disinterested, to say the least. He didn’t box out.

The Lakers were just 20-37 in the 57 games that Westbrook appeared in with one or both of James and Davis out. If Westbrook was the Oklahoma City version of himself — or even the post-All-Star-break Houston or Washington version of himself — the Lakers’ record is probably closer to, if not above, .500 in 57 games. Most advanced metrics deem Westbrook as somewhere between an average-to-major-net-negative player.

Yet that is not how he views himself. He hasn’t accepted that he’s moved into a different phase of his Hall of Fame career. He believes he’s entitled to playing time and a role because of who he used to be. He lacks self-awareness. And he can’t properly adjust his game — and become the proverbial star in his new role — until he adjusts his perspective.

Which makes the uncertainty regarding his future so interesting.

The tone of Westbrook’s exit-interview comments opposed his rosy proclamation last week after the Lakers were eliminated from the Play-In tournament that “the plan” would be for him to exercise his $47 million player option and return to the Lakers so that he, James and Davis could try to jell again in a second season together. Westbrook spoke more like a player that was ready to move on.

With regards to free agency and his future, Westbrook said he hasn’t “thought that far into anything.”

“I’ll make the decision,” Westbrook said. “That’s why it’s called ‘player option.'”

That decision will have a significant impact on the direction of the Lakers’ offseason.

Lakers vice president of basketball operations and general manager Rob Pelinka, who indicated the franchise will not tolerate mediocrity next season and will aggressively pursue upgrades to the roster via trade or free agency, effusively praised Westbrook’s career accomplishments but left open the (likely) possibility that Los Angeles tries to trade him to appease him.

“Like any player, we’ll partner with him after that decision is made about what’s best for his future,” Pelinka said.

Based on Westbrook’s interpretation of his past experience with the Lakers and his present abilities, his plans appear to be finding a situation in which he can be treated like a superstar and refrain from accepting any substantive blame.
 


Russell Westbrook’s lack of self-awareness apparent in his deflection and blame during Lakers exit interviews

While many Los Angeles Lakers players preached accountability and self-reflection over the issues that plagued their team during exit interviews on Monday, Russell Westbrook remained defiantly in denial about why things went awry.

Throughout his 21-minute post-exit-interview press conference, Westbrook doubled down on the consistent excuses he used amid a subpar season — and debuted new explanations to absolve his responsibility in constructing his Lakers experience.

Westbrook believes one of the primary issues with his season was that his negative reputation preceded him and he was never given a “fair chance” with the organization.

“When I first got here, unfortunately, people create narratives of who I am, and what I do, and what I believe in, that just aren’t true,” Westbrook said. “I’m always having to prove myself again year after year after year, which to me is really unfair. There’s no reason for me to have to do that. So when I first got in here, I just felt that I never was given a fair chance just to be who I needed to be to help this team.”

Westbrook specifically mentioned recent media reports that detailed his disconnect with the Lakers’ coaching staff behind the scenes due to his unwillingness to accept criticism or adapt from his ball-dominant game.

“The famous ‘source’ stories that came out about myself, whether it be between me and the staff, me and Frank, me and the fans, there’s just so many made-up stories that are not true,” Westbrook said. “It’s just always having to fight against that constantly. It’s just not (being) given a fair chance.”

When asked to directly refute a report or anecdote, Westbrook declined.

“No,” Westbrook said. “I can’t. You know the examples. I don’t want to get in details, what story, who wrote it, why … it’s pointless. It really doesn’t matter because it’s not true. If it doesn’t come from me (it is not true).”

Westbrook’s criticism quickly extended to former head coach Frank Vogel, who was fired on Monday morning.

After regularly taking veiled shots at Vogel, particularly after games in which Vogel benched him during the fourth quarter, Westbrook attempted to flip the narrative and say that Vogel instead had a problem with him.

“I think it’s unfortunate, to be honest, because I’ve never had an issue with any of my coaches before,” Westbrook said. “I’m not sure what his issue was with me or I’m not sure why, but I can’t really give you an answer to why we really never connected …

“That’s something that he has to answer. But I never, from the get-go, was feeling like (we were on the same page.) I was having to try to prove myself to him and my capabilities and what I’ve been able to do for this game. And it’s unfortunate but it’s really not (my fault). It’s kind of out of my hands.”

Multiple recent media reports contradict that notion, though.

Vogel was reportedly one of Westbrook’s lone allies, optimistically believing that he would eventually turn his play around and insisting that he remain in the starting lineup despite some in the organization pleading for Vogel to bring Westbrook off the bench to split him and James up.

The postgame comments throughout the season refute that sentiment, too.

Westbrook repeatedly criticized Vogel and the coaching staff in a passive-aggressive manner. Meanwhile, Vogel routinely defended Westbrook’s performance despite his starting point guard clanking jumpers, throwing passes out of bounds and failing to rotate or keep track of his man defensively.

Westbrook’s teammates noticed the negative trickle-down effect of the disconnect.

“You’re talking about the point guard of our team, right? That’s usually the head of the snake,” Wayne Ellington said. “He doesn’t feel like he had the best year of his career by any means, but as the point guard of the team, if he doesn’t feel comfortable on the floor, he doesn’t feel the connection within his game, that kind of trickles down as well.”

Westbrook’s grievances then moved on to his on-court dynamic with his star teammates, LeBron James and Anthony Davis.

In postgame press conferences, James and Davis supported the concept of “let Russ be Russ” as the best strategy to empower Westbrook and unlock the best version of the former MVP.

But Westbrook revealed that he felt that notion was disingenuous.

“Yeah, (they said it),” Westbrook said. “But that wasn’t true. Let’s be honest.”

He also took another shot at Vogel, placing much of the blame on the star trio’s lackluster record — they were 11-10 in their 21 games together — on the way they were used offensively, while also mentioning their obvious fit issues and unfortunate health.

“I mean, it’s a combination of where we are on the floor, positioning, fit and challenge, trial and error, being able to play on the floor with each other,” Westbrook said. “Finding ways to be able to utilize us to the best of our abilities. It’s that simple.”

Westbrook said he was “very rarely” able to feel like himself in Los Angeles.

“I embraced every change,” Westbrook said. “There wasn’t a time where I was like, ‘Oh, I’m not doing this.’ There were conversations where I may have felt like what I bring to this team and my abilities to be able to help the team win may not have been in the cards of kind of how the coaching staff wanted to play. … I was coming in with open arms. I got no reason to (refuse anything). I knew coming here I would have to make the biggest sacrifice of anyone.”

To his credit, he acknowledged that his play was below his own standards for one of the few times this season.

But he partially neutralized the impact of his commentary by shifting to a more ego-driven tone. He said that his internal scale is the only opinion he cares about — another sign he doesn’t process external feedback/criticism — and then added that his biggest gripe with his statistical production was that he didn’t hit his usual triple-double averages.

“Just my play, in general, not my best season,” Westbrook said. “Just going off my own personal scale, because that’s the only thing I go off of regardless of this season. … Obviously I’m coming off averaging a triple-double, so anything less than that would not be a good season for me in my eyes, you know what I’m saying? So that’s why the scale of where it comes from is a little bit different.”

Westbrook also acknowledged the effects of his problems with his hometown crowd, whom he discussed with a dismissive tone in the final weeks of the season after taking offense to the crowd shaming his surname by calling him “Westbrick.” The Crpyto.com Arena crowd booed Westbrook over a half-dozen times during the season, forming a hostile dynamic that he felt uncomfortable bringing his family around. His contract and underperformance made him an easy target.

“I would probably say the only thing that was a problem or issue was with just the reception I got from people here,” Westbrook said. “For any reason, whatever that may be. Whether it’s the fans or whatever, it wasn’t so great.”

All told, Westbrook isn’t wrong. There is some truth in some of his pushback. The Lakers’ troubles aren’t binary. Westbrook has probably received too great a share of the overall blame. There are numerous factors that compounded into a disappointing 33-49 record and the West’s 11th spot.

But Westbrook’s attempt to deflect and finger-point ultimately rings hollow.

The Lakers indisputably went out of their way to accommodate their highest-paid player ($44 million), from giving him spots in the starting and closing lineups at times he didn’t deserve them, to letting him handle primary ballhandling duties, to handling him with kid gloves in critical media sessions. Vogel tweaked his defensive schemes to factor in Westbrook’s limitations.

Even Westbrook’s superstar teammates made notable adjustments. Davis slid up to center more despite his historic hesitance to better space the floor. James even played some small-ball center, and implemented more screening, rolling and cutting into his game to remain effective off the ball when Westbrook had it.

In contrast, Westbrook, who promised James and Davis last offseason that he would adjust more than either player, never expanded his skill set to become effective without the ball in his hands. He rarely screened on or off the ball, cut hard, or relocated around the perimeter.

Westbrook obviously sacrificed, to some extent, by sharing ballhandling duties with James in crunch time and pivotal moments (and sometimes even ceding them). But that’s about the bare minimum when stars are teaming up. Otherwise, he was largely the same player, with the same strengths, only decreased, and the same weaknesses, only increased. He also clearly cares more about external perception and validation than he tries to let on.

On the whole, there is a clear cognitive dissonance between the player Westbrook is and the player he thinks he is.

He is no longer an All-Star or All-NBA player. He’s declined as a jump-shooter, finisher and defender. He was arguably the worst high-volume shooter in the league. He no longer impacts games with his energy and effort the way he used to.

His lack of gravity can suffocate his team’s offense, barring the other four players all being above-average shooters. It’s difficult for a coach to find four shooters to place around Westbrook in every lineup. His turnovers are often momentum-swinging. Defensively, he’s typically disinterested, to say the least. He didn’t box out.

The Lakers were just 20-37 in the 57 games that Westbrook appeared in with one or both of James and Davis out. If Westbrook was the Oklahoma City version of himself — or even the post-All-Star-break Houston or Washington version of himself — the Lakers’ record is probably closer to, if not above, .500 in 57 games. Most advanced metrics deem Westbrook as somewhere between an average-to-major-net-negative player.

Yet that is not how he views himself. He hasn’t accepted that he’s moved into a different phase of his Hall of Fame career. He believes he’s entitled to playing time and a role because of who he used to be. He lacks self-awareness. And he can’t properly adjust his game — and become the proverbial star in his new role — until he adjusts his perspective.

Which makes the uncertainty regarding his future so interesting.

The tone of Westbrook’s exit-interview comments opposed his rosy proclamation last week after the Lakers were eliminated from the Play-In tournament that “the plan” would be for him to exercise his $47 million player option and return to the Lakers so that he, James and Davis could try to jell again in a second season together. Westbrook spoke more like a player that was ready to move on.

With regards to free agency and his future, Westbrook said he hasn’t “thought that far into anything.”

“I’ll make the decision,” Westbrook said. “That’s why it’s called ‘player option.'”

That decision will have a significant impact on the direction of the Lakers’ offseason.

Lakers vice president of basketball operations and general manager Rob Pelinka, who indicated the franchise will not tolerate mediocrity next season and will aggressively pursue upgrades to the roster via trade or free agency, effusively praised Westbrook’s career accomplishments but left open the (likely) possibility that Los Angeles tries to trade him to appease him.

“Like any player, we’ll partner with him after that decision is made about what’s best for his future,” Pelinka said.

Based on Westbrook’s interpretation of his past experience with the Lakers and his present abilities, his plans appear to be finding a situation in which he can be treated like a superstar and refrain from accepting any substantive blame.


Russ has to go. There is no way this guy can be defended.

He has taken ZERO accountability for anything and blamed the one guy who really had his back.

I don't care what bad contract we have to take back, Russ can not be a Laker next year.
 
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Dis dude
 
A bit of revisionist history here, but I keep wondering what could have been if we had hired Ty Lue as HC instead of Vogel back in 2019. FO botched yet another decision IMO.

Don't get me started on them letting Caruso walk... :rolleyes
 
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