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Dont forget francisco garcia and his customary 5 or 6 triples.
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When will you get it through your thick skull that COACHES HAVE A SAY IN THE ROSTER?Yes, Mike has never won. Understood.
Because Mike traded away Rajon Rondo, Loul Deng, Marcin Gortat, Rudy Fernandez and Nate Robinson, after letting Joe Johnson walk away for nothing.
Yes, Mike never won. I have no idea why he never could win.........................................................................
Phil Jackson is the GOAT, and he SURELY would have won titles if we gave away Horry, Fox, Glen Rice, Kukoc, Harper, H. Grant, Trevor Ariza, and Lamar Odom year after year after year. He could easily overcome that.
Good perspective guys.
and of course harden leaving nick young open 27 times and him going 3/27Dont forget francisco garcia and his customary 5 or 6 triples.
When will you get it through your thick skull that COACHES HAVE A SAY IN THE ROSTER?Yes, Mike has never won. Understood.
Because Mike traded away Rajon Rondo, Loul Deng, Marcin Gortat, Rudy Fernandez and Nate Robinson, after letting Joe Johnson walk away for nothing.
Yes, Mike never won. I have no idea why he never could win.........................................................................
Phil Jackson is the GOAT, and he SURELY would have won titles if we gave away Horry, Fox, Glen Rice, Kukoc, Harper, H. Grant, Trevor Ariza, and Lamar Odom year after year after year. He could easily overcome that.
Good perspective guys.
and of course harden leaving nick young open 27 times and him going 3/27
You and I are older Laker fans
I would Hack-A-Dwight, not for an advantage in the game but to just embarrass him. Start Sacre, Kelly and Harris, have them hack a Dwight 18 times to begin the game. The pressure will get to him.
After buying the Phoenix Suns, Sarver has received criticism from the media and fans[4] for his frugal approach to running the franchise. Particularly under scrutiny is his selling of numerous draft picks for cash, and his general aversion to going over the NBA's luxury tax, despite being in a position to strengthen his squad and do everything possible to go for an NBA championship during Steve Nash's (the Suns' 2 time NBA MVP point guard) prime years. In 2008, ESPN Sportswriter Bill Simmons wrote an article about the Suns franchise in which he criticized moves made by Sarver and his team.[5] In a June 25, 2011 article, Arizona Republic columnist Dan Bickley wrote that Sarver was "widely considered among the worst owners in sports." [6]
If you're playing the blame game, look at the front office/ownership mistakes from 2004 to 2007. Had the Suns made two different choices (just two!) and not been so concerned about the luxury tax, they could have given us six to eight years of wildly entertaining basketball and maybe even a dynasty. Collectively, the mistakes made by the Suns were staggering. Check out the last four years of Phoenix teams, season by season, and how they screwed up what should have been a historically good run.
2005 to properly refresh your memory about the Joe Johnson fiasco. That's right -- fiasco. Phoenix's relationship with Johnson deteriorated so badly that he directly asked Sarver not to match Atlanta's $70 million offer -- which he didn't -- leading to the devastating trade of Johnson for Boris Diaw and two future first-rounders.
They had just come within two wins of the NBA Finals and built an identity; now they were dealing a 24-year-old potential All-Star, the perfect swingman for their system, a deadly shooter who could even play backup point guard for them ... and only getting back a bench player and two future picks?
Here's what kills me about the Johnson trade: With Nash, Amare, Marion and Johnson, you're set for the rest of the decade. That's it. That's your core. That's your guarantee for 57-plus wins a year and a specific style that can work. Surround them with role players and veteran buyout guys and you're contending until Nash breaks down, and even then, you can just shift the offense over to Johnson as the main creator. HOW CAN YOU GIVE THAT GUY UP???? So what if he's insulted and doesn't want to come back? He'll get over it! You're paying him $14 million a year and he gets to play with Steve Nash! Arrrrrrrrgh.
Mistake No. 1: For financial reasons, they traded the No. 21 pick (Rajon Rondo) to Boston along with Brian Grant's contract (chopping $1.9 million from their 2007 payroll) for the rights to Cleveland's 2007 first-round pick. This was a double whammy because they acquired that Rondo pick two years before by giving up the No. 7 pick in the 2004 draft (for luxury tax reasons). So if you're scoring at home, they downgraded from "Luol Deng or Andre Iguodala in 2004" to "Rondo in 2006" to "selling the No. 24 pick in 2007 for cash" (we'll get to that in a second) ... which means that, effectively, they traded a No. 7 pick in a loaded draft for $4.9 million. Phoenix fans, you may now light yourselves on fire.
What makes that one even more painful: Instead of signing Richardson before the 2004-05 season to a six-year, $42.6 million deal, they could have drafted Deng or Igoudala that summer and paid one of them two-fifths as much as Richardson over that same time frame. One year later, they swapped Richardson and the No. 21 pick in 2005 for Kurt Thomas, who they dumped on Seattle last summer along with two more No. 1's just to get him off their cap. As astounding as this sounds, Bryan Colangelo's decision to sign Richardson instead of drafting Deng or Iguodala -- which was dumb at the time, by the way -- ended up costing them a whopping FOUR FIRST-ROUND PICKS! Would you rather have Richardson, or would you rather have the No. 7 pick in 2004, the No. 21 pick in 2005, and your first-rounders in 2008 and 2010? Hold on, this gets better. Your 2005 NBA Executive of the Year? That's right, Mr. Bryan Colangelo! I love the NBA.)
Mistake No. 2: They sold the No. 27 pick to Portland (that ended up being Sergio Rodriguez). What's confusing is that they traded/sold those No. 1s for luxury tax reasons, and yet ...
Mistake No. 3: Two weeks later, they signed Marcus Banks to a five-year, $24 million deal to back up Nash. Marcus Banks!?!?!? Can you think of a worse guy for NashBall? He can't shoot 3s, he's a career loser, he's never won in college or the pros, it's unclear whether he'd ever accept a reduced role behind a two-time MVP ... let's get him! Why not just draft Rondo at 21 (or Marcus Williams, or Kyle Lowry, or Jordan Farmar) and develop him as a backup for one-fourth the price of Banks? Why not draft Rodriguez at No. 27 and hope he pans out for one-fifth the money?
Mistake No. 1: Selling the No. 24 pick (Rudy Fernandez) for $3 million to Portland. Of everything Sarver inflicted on the Phoenix fans since 2004, this may have been the biggest slap in the face. You can't play the luxury tax card with Fernandez because he wasn't planning on joining the NBA until 2008 or 2009 at the earliest, so actually it would have been savvy if the Suns drafted him and stashed him in Europe for a year or two. Instead, Sarver basically announced to his fans, "Screw you, I'd rather have the $3 million, I'm taking the cash." Let the record show that, by all accounts, Fernandez would be a top-5 pick in this year's draft after lighting it up in Spain. Can you quantify the damage there? I say no.
Mistake No. 2: By dealing Thomas to Seattle along with two first-round picks (2008 and 2010), they saved about $8 million (plus another $8 million in luxury tax expenses) ... which would have been fine if Seattle didn't eventually waive him so he could get picked up by San Antonio, where he helped beat the Suns in the '08 playoffs and played crunch time in all five games. Even if it was a defensible trade financially, that's what happens when you cut off your nose to spite your face.
Please tell me you started drinking early today. I'm fully confident that you're aware of the way things work in sports, being a sports fan and all.Ska........please be kidding.When will you get it through your thick skull that COACHES HAVE A SAY IN THE ROSTER?Yes, Mike has never won. Understood.
Because Mike traded away Rajon Rondo, Loul Deng, Marcin Gortat, Rudy Fernandez and Nate Robinson, after letting Joe Johnson walk away for nothing.
Yes, Mike never won. I have no idea why he never could win.........................................................................
Phil Jackson is the GOAT, and he SURELY would have won titles if we gave away Horry, Fox, Glen Rice, Kukoc, Harper, H. Grant, Trevor Ariza, and Lamar Odom year after year after year. He could easily overcome that.
Good perspective guys.
Please, please be kidding.
Sarver SOLD those picks. Not trade away, SOLD. He pinches pennies, didn't want to pay rookies, etc. His fanbase LOATHES him.
Mike had zero say in draft picks being sold. You hopefully knew that and just teasin me.
I would Hack-A-Dwight, not for an advantage in the game but to just embarrass him. Start Sacre, Kelly and Harris, have them hack a Dwight 18 times to begin the game. The pressure will get to him.
Sacre will foul out in 10 mins..lmao. hack an asik. Hack a dwight. Trap a Lin?? Oh, nvm, its pringles...15 mins of defensive scheming. I dunno if they can squeeze that in.....
Lebron's 6 imaginary rings > Kobe's 5he damn near could have won 2-3 titles with a small market team and just a halfway decent, not even good, DECENT owner, he would have been much much different.
Lebron's 6 imaginary rings > Kobe's 5he damn near could have won 2-3 titles with a small market team and just a halfway decent, not even good, DECENT owner, he would have been much much different.
I can't handle the stubbornness anymore.
Never seen anything like it on the world wide web in my entire life.
We can make a million great points, but they're all ignored.
In return we have one million other points being shoved into our face... and if we don't agree, we have no clue what we're talking about.
Too much man. Too much.
Ska, the mic is yours...all yours.