LeBron - Rise

kingjames slow your roll chief it's an opinion no reason to hop to lebrons junk homie it's not that big of a deal. sure it makes sense for winning rings but there is a difference between winning rings with 3 all stars and carrying not just a team but a city on your back. you should be able to appreciate that you know
 
kingjames slow your roll chief it's an opinion no reason to hop to lebrons junk homie it's not that big of a deal. sure it makes sense for winning rings but there is a difference between winning rings with 3 all stars and carrying not just a team but a city on your back. you should be able to appreciate that you know
 
Originally Posted by flightwhite21

kingjames slow your roll chief it's an opinion no reason to hop to lebrons junk homie it's not that big of a deal. sure it makes sense for winning rings but there is a difference between winning rings with 3 all stars and carrying not just a team but a city on your back. you should be able to appreciate that you know
there is but whats your point?  why does he have to do the impossible while others dont?  all other championship teams had multiple all-stars on their team, or at least have above average low post presence with some consistently good shooter in the mix.  Its like people created this fantasy or idea that he could and should do it by myself.  Of course it would be great to see, but its not reality, its not basketball.  Hes not Jordan, and hasn't tried to be like him (hes one of his favorite players).  Nobody at this present time can do the same things Jordan was able to do (win rings without at least an above average low post presence).
 
Originally Posted by flightwhite21

kingjames slow your roll chief it's an opinion no reason to hop to lebrons junk homie it's not that big of a deal. sure it makes sense for winning rings but there is a difference between winning rings with 3 all stars and carrying not just a team but a city on your back. you should be able to appreciate that you know
there is but whats your point?  why does he have to do the impossible while others dont?  all other championship teams had multiple all-stars on their team, or at least have above average low post presence with some consistently good shooter in the mix.  Its like people created this fantasy or idea that he could and should do it by myself.  Of course it would be great to see, but its not reality, its not basketball.  Hes not Jordan, and hasn't tried to be like him (hes one of his favorite players).  Nobody at this present time can do the same things Jordan was able to do (win rings without at least an above average low post presence).
 
The thing is....None of the older players had a chance like lebron.....

Some of yall saying what he shouldve done...what yall would have did

but of course you guys will say the "good" things...you havent been in Lebrons position

the whole world hasnt been watching you since high school....

Yall saying he quit in the playoffs?.....where was His TEAM....what were they doing while he was struggling

You really think a player like lebron would just lose?

some of yall make since.....a ring chaser?.....isnt the damn point of playing basketball in the league to win the CHAMPIONSHIP??????

if he would of stayed in cleveland...you all would be like...welll he should have took the offer with the heat blah blah blah

His team sucks again...etc.... Theres no way you can judge this situation unless yoyu are Lebron...

and none of us are
 
The thing is....None of the older players had a chance like lebron.....

Some of yall saying what he shouldve done...what yall would have did

but of course you guys will say the "good" things...you havent been in Lebrons position

the whole world hasnt been watching you since high school....

Yall saying he quit in the playoffs?.....where was His TEAM....what were they doing while he was struggling

You really think a player like lebron would just lose?

some of yall make since.....a ring chaser?.....isnt the damn point of playing basketball in the league to win the CHAMPIONSHIP??????

if he would of stayed in cleveland...you all would be like...welll he should have took the offer with the heat blah blah blah

His team sucks again...etc.... Theres no way you can judge this situation unless yoyu are Lebron...

and none of us are
 
Originally Posted by Nat Turner

Originally Posted by flightwhite21

Lebron is a kid, thats why he wanted to play with his friends in South Beach. If he were a competitor that really cared about winning he would've done it in Cleveland. Jordan said it best, he wouldn't have teamed up with Charles and Larry to win. He wanted to go out and dominate them every time they played. Lebron has no killer instinct, just flash and some sick shoes
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Kobe has killer instinct which is why he wins

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NOT TRUE.  Kobe is also on a dope team with other stars in a BIG MARKET like LA, not a dump like Cleveland.
  
 
Originally Posted by Nat Turner

Originally Posted by flightwhite21

Lebron is a kid, thats why he wanted to play with his friends in South Beach. If he were a competitor that really cared about winning he would've done it in Cleveland. Jordan said it best, he wouldn't have teamed up with Charles and Larry to win. He wanted to go out and dominate them every time they played. Lebron has no killer instinct, just flash and some sick shoes
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Kobe has killer instinct which is why he wins

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NOT TRUE.  Kobe is also on a dope team with other stars in a BIG MARKET like LA, not a dump like Cleveland.
  
 
*Why is people comparing La to Cleveland im lost on that one
*Why is people comparing Lebron to Kobe

*Kobe had shaq in his prime & gasol in his prime
*Lebron had Z & Shaq out of his prime

*La Lakers Winners
*Cavs Losers (you remember that mj shot over Ehlo right)

*La-Alot Championship Banners
*Cavs-Do They have any Banners???

*Kobe coach-Phil Jackson
*Lebron coach-Mike Brown (now Erik Spo)
*Jordan coaches-Phil Jackson,Doug Collins,Dean Smith(2 hall of famers maybe 2 of greatest coaches of ALL TIME)

*Seriously how do yall come up with these comparisons

*Kobe won a championship early he wasnt always a killer he once was a LOSER miss mad shots in playoffs(especially against Blazers do your history)
*Lebron one man army lost alot during his career in playoffs never taste a championship nor a ring

*Mj dont belong in same sentence as anyone greatest sports player to ever do it and their is no one even close 2 him

*So sometimes i wonder do people even know history of basketball or just started watch highlights

Also dont tell me coachin dont matter in sports cause u lying 2 urself and then you lying to me...
Jordan wouldnt of been that great if Phil wasnt his coach... Jordan knows that...
 
*Why is people comparing La to Cleveland im lost on that one
*Why is people comparing Lebron to Kobe

*Kobe had shaq in his prime & gasol in his prime
*Lebron had Z & Shaq out of his prime

*La Lakers Winners
*Cavs Losers (you remember that mj shot over Ehlo right)

*La-Alot Championship Banners
*Cavs-Do They have any Banners???

*Kobe coach-Phil Jackson
*Lebron coach-Mike Brown (now Erik Spo)
*Jordan coaches-Phil Jackson,Doug Collins,Dean Smith(2 hall of famers maybe 2 of greatest coaches of ALL TIME)

*Seriously how do yall come up with these comparisons

*Kobe won a championship early he wasnt always a killer he once was a LOSER miss mad shots in playoffs(especially against Blazers do your history)
*Lebron one man army lost alot during his career in playoffs never taste a championship nor a ring

*Mj dont belong in same sentence as anyone greatest sports player to ever do it and their is no one even close 2 him

*So sometimes i wonder do people even know history of basketball or just started watch highlights

Also dont tell me coachin dont matter in sports cause u lying 2 urself and then you lying to me...
Jordan wouldnt of been that great if Phil wasnt his coach... Jordan knows that...
 
Originally Posted by flightwhite21

\difference between winning rings with 3 all stars and carrying not just a team but a city on your back. you should be able to appreciate that you know




Bird was running with Mchale, Parrish, DJ
Magic was running with Kareem, James Worthy, Michael Cooper


These are 2 of the best players ever and nobody looks down them for playing not just with multiple all-stars but multiple HOFers. LeBron should have to stick with a team that couldn't build a roster in 7 years because he's from Akron? It would have been nice for him to do it in Cleveland but he's being held to such a different standard from every other player. Who else was expected to stick and win a title with a team that doesn't have a single all-nba performer playing with him at any point in his career?

It's not that you're criticizing LeBron, it's that you're argument makes no sense at all.
First it was that he doesn't care about winning and then it's about him playing with 3 all-stars. Those points make no sense.
 
Originally Posted by flightwhite21

\difference between winning rings with 3 all stars and carrying not just a team but a city on your back. you should be able to appreciate that you know




Bird was running with Mchale, Parrish, DJ
Magic was running with Kareem, James Worthy, Michael Cooper


These are 2 of the best players ever and nobody looks down them for playing not just with multiple all-stars but multiple HOFers. LeBron should have to stick with a team that couldn't build a roster in 7 years because he's from Akron? It would have been nice for him to do it in Cleveland but he's being held to such a different standard from every other player. Who else was expected to stick and win a title with a team that doesn't have a single all-nba performer playing with him at any point in his career?

It's not that you're criticizing LeBron, it's that you're argument makes no sense at all.
First it was that he doesn't care about winning and then it's about him playing with 3 all-stars. Those points make no sense.
 
" Bird was running with Mchale, Parrish, DJ
Magic was running with Kareem, James Worthy, Michael Cooper "



A Completely different situation.

Those players made a name for themselves.
Don't bring them up if you don't know what exactly happened and how they came about, as elite players.

Magic was a bench warmer at one point. Keep that in mind. Now he has a handful of rings and a statue outside Staples Center.
 
" Bird was running with Mchale, Parrish, DJ
Magic was running with Kareem, James Worthy, Michael Cooper "



A Completely different situation.

Those players made a name for themselves.
Don't bring them up if you don't know what exactly happened and how they came about, as elite players.

Magic was a bench warmer at one point. Keep that in mind. Now he has a handful of rings and a statue outside Staples Center.
 
The thing is.....

Lebron's chance of becoming one of the greatest players has sort of taken a hit.
If he gets his ring in the next couple of years, can he say that he did it by himself "with help"
Or
He did it with his "super friends".

I doubt he'll be as happy as Miami when they win it. Think about that.

But hey... what the hell do we know...
 
The thing is.....

Lebron's chance of becoming one of the greatest players has sort of taken a hit.
If he gets his ring in the next couple of years, can he say that he did it by himself "with help"
Or
He did it with his "super friends".

I doubt he'll be as happy as Miami when they win it. Think about that.

But hey... what the hell do we know...
 
Originally Posted by never wear them

" Bird was running with Mchale, Parrish, DJ
Magic was running with Kareem, James Worthy, Michael Cooper "



A Completely different situation.

Those players made a name for themselves.
Don't bring them up if you don't know what exactly happened and how they came about, as elite players.

Magic was a bench warmer at one point. Keep that in mind. Now he has a handful of rings and a statue outside Staples Center.
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Originally Posted by never wear them

" Bird was running with Mchale, Parrish, DJ
Magic was running with Kareem, James Worthy, Michael Cooper "



A Completely different situation.

Those players made a name for themselves.
Don't bring them up if you don't know what exactly happened and how they came about, as elite players.

Magic was a bench warmer at one point. Keep that in mind. Now he has a handful of rings and a statue outside Staples Center.
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he was........... but thats because he was a rookie, the NBA didn't start rookies like that back in the day. But once they found out they could with him, they put that tradition aside.
 
he was........... but thats because he was a rookie, the NBA didn't start rookies like that back in the day. But once they found out they could with him, they put that tradition aside.
 
Originally Posted by andfattoo

he was........... but thats because he was a rookie, the NBA didn't start rookies like that back in the day. But once they found out they could with him, they put that tradition aside.

[table][tr][th=""]Season[/th][th=""]Age[/th][th=""]Tm[/th][th=""]Lg[/th][th=""]G[/th][th=""]GS[/th][th=""]MP[/th][th=""]FG[/th][th=""]FGA[/th][th=""]FG%[/th][th=""]3P[/th][th=""]3PA[/th][th=""]3P%[/th][th=""]FT[/th][th=""]FTA[/th][th=""]FT%[/th][th=""]ORB[/th][th=""]DRB[/th][th=""]TRB[/th][th=""]AST[/th][th=""]STL[/th][th=""]BLK[/th][th=""]TOV[/th][th=""]PF[/th][th=""]PTS[/th][/tr][tr][td]1979-80[/td][td]20[/td][td]LAL[/td][td]NBA[/td][td]77[/td][td][/td][td]36.3[/td][td]6.5[/td][td]12.3[/td][td].530[/td][td]0.1[/td][td]0.4[/td][td].226[/td][td]4.9[/td][td]6.0[/td][td].810[/td][td]2.2[/td][td]5.6[/td][td]7.7[/td][td]7.3[/td][td]2.4[/td][td]0.5[/td][td]4.0[/td][td]2.8[/td][td]18.0[/td][/tr][/table]

Come again?
 
Originally Posted by andfattoo

he was........... but thats because he was a rookie, the NBA didn't start rookies like that back in the day. But once they found out they could with him, they put that tradition aside.

[table][tr][th=""]Season[/th][th=""]Age[/th][th=""]Tm[/th][th=""]Lg[/th][th=""]G[/th][th=""]GS[/th][th=""]MP[/th][th=""]FG[/th][th=""]FGA[/th][th=""]FG%[/th][th=""]3P[/th][th=""]3PA[/th][th=""]3P%[/th][th=""]FT[/th][th=""]FTA[/th][th=""]FT%[/th][th=""]ORB[/th][th=""]DRB[/th][th=""]TRB[/th][th=""]AST[/th][th=""]STL[/th][th=""]BLK[/th][th=""]TOV[/th][th=""]PF[/th][th=""]PTS[/th][/tr][tr][td]1979-80[/td][td]20[/td][td]LAL[/td][td]NBA[/td][td]77[/td][td][/td][td]36.3[/td][td]6.5[/td][td]12.3[/td][td].530[/td][td]0.1[/td][td]0.4[/td][td].226[/td][td]4.9[/td][td]6.0[/td][td].810[/td][td]2.2[/td][td]5.6[/td][td]7.7[/td][td]7.3[/td][td]2.4[/td][td]0.5[/td][td]4.0[/td][td]2.8[/td][td]18.0[/td][/tr][/table]

Come again?
 
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