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Slightly off topic but Cablevision subscribers will have the NFL Network starting today/tomorrow :pimp:


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Thank you for this.
Having been born yesterday, I really wasn't sure until you brought it up.
There's nothing this thread needed more in August then this post right here.
Where that rep button at again?


Obviously you guys didn't peep Melo's season after the last Olympics. He has no choice but to show up in mid-season form, and you're still trying to be pessimistic? Like I said before, there's history behind these projections for Melo. Melo even said that the USA Basketball tourney's had him entering each season with a different hunger. Of course, that probably means he's saying that he slacked off all the other years... Barring death/tragic injury, he'll have far and away his best season as a Knick this year. Regular season will be a cakewalk. The key is playoffs.
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You aiming at the wrong one. :lol:
 
Lou Admundson would be a nice fit IMO. Another guy that doesn't give an F either.
What y'all think of this STAT & Hakeem work? Dude should let his game do the talking IMO no need to raise expectations even more after a season like he just had. Obviously injuries are a part of the game and I can't fault him for that but still.
Dude yapped away last year about how "I've never been in better shape in my life / my body fat is less than 5% / I added 15 lbs of muscle" ...Just ball son.
And the dream got paid what? 10k or 100k to work with him? I can't remember exactly.
What's he supposed to say other than son looks great with these new moves? Idk, hopefully I'm proven wrong but this is a big year for STAT.
None of this "be loyal to STAT" talk bc he came in 2010 also. We were the only dudes who guaranteed 100 mil. And please don't tell me about loyalty when this is the same franchise that traded Pat when he was willing to take a lesser salary in 2000.

I hear you on all the talk and him just proving it on the court. I think the thing I take away most from the reports of him working with Hakeem is that he is doing it for 2 weeks. Most other players have only worked out with him for 3-4 days. STAT is showing tremendous dedication putting in that much time with Hakeem. I can care less about all the talk but hopefully the time put in translates to solid play in the post this season.
 
[h1]Players we want back: Amar’e Stoudemire[/h1]
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By Kelly Dwyer | Ball Don't Lie 7 hours ago




Amar'e Stoudemire takes his hoops hints from Hakeem Olajuwon, and dressing tips from Marvin Gaye (Getty Images …


For whatever reason, several of the league's more entertaining players have fallen off in recent years. Be it due to injury, confidence issues, rotation frustrations, a poor fit, or general ennui in a profession that can get tiresome, these players have disappointed of late. For the next few weeks, we're going to take a look at a list of familiar names that haven't produced familiar games over the last few years. Or, at least players that have produced games that we don't want to be in the habit of familiarizing ourselves with.


Today, we're looking at New York Knicks big man Amar'e Stoudemire.



There are a trillion different ways to write this column, but each of those attempts tend to boil down to the fact that NBA fans enjoy watching tall men perform remarkable feats. It's something that isn't usually dealt with head-on in the NBA's blogosphere, but these fellers are really, really tall. Taller than the average bear, and taller than your typical lineman, first basemen, or defensemen. At to some of us, the ones that prefer a nice drop step or jump hook to a crossover, it's frustrating to see the tallest of them all routinely take a seat due to injury. From Yao Ming to Greg Oden to Andrew Bogut, this hasn't been a fun era to behold for those of us that like watching big men do their thing.


This is why Amar'e Stoudemire's 2011-12 turn was such an absolute downer. Whether his poor play was a function of either Carmelo Anthony or Tyson Chandler's presence, or a delayed reaction to a season that didn't start on time, Stoudemire was a mess defensively and a relative miss offensively. His New York Knicks didn't really miss a beat, sticking with the same first round ouster that the squad experienced a year earlier, but the team and its fans rued the potential that was lost when the NBA's most versatile scoring big decided to decline so suddenly. A year after looking like a savior machine in his prime, Stoudemire may have tailed off into the NBA's worst contract.


Stoudemire's much ballyhooed time spent with Basketball Hall of Famer Hakeem Olajuwon is supposed to change this. Like Olajuwon, Stoudemire made a slight alteration to his first name several years into his career, like Olajuwon Amar'e boasts what at times looks like the NBA's best footwork for a big man, and he's hoping to have career years deep into his 30s like the two-time champion did.


Olajuwon, in a great interview with the New York Times' Howard Beck, is effusive about his summer schoolin':

"It's night and day," Olajuwon said. "What's so nice is he wants it; he likes the post. He's always wanted to play there, but he doesn't have the moves that would give him that option.


"His spin is becoming so sharp and crisp," Olajuwon said. "He could spin all day. He loves it."

Beck reports that Stoudemire's tutelage came in three-hour bursts, starting in the first week of August, and that he spent a fortnight working with the legend. Most players only last for four days. Amar'e wants his game back.


We want it back, too. It's easy to dismiss Stoudemire as injury-plagued, or over reliant on Steve Nash's touch to hand him the easy touches, but statistically his finest season may have come in 2007-08 (two years after undergoing microfracture surgery), and he played brilliant basketball in New York without Nash before Carmelo Anthony joined the Knicks in February of 2011. Anthony's presence is just one tipping point — Chandler's interior work took some of Stoudmire's spacing away and a back injury clearly hampered the former All-Star in 2011-12 — but the two truly haven't clicked in the months since Anthony became a Knick. And it isn't as if Amar'e is looking to hog things — his assist rate of 13 percent (the amount of possessions he used up that ended in assists) in 2010-11 nearly doubled his career rate.


Blame Anthony for a stagnant offense at times, but his presence at power forward spurred New York's most potent regular season run last year. And Stoudemire's shots per minute, while down from 2010-11, weren't that far off from his last season in Phoenix. He's just not knocking down the shots he used to; though it is fair to point out that Stoudemire was often forced into shots that were completely unlike the ones he used to be used to.


(You's still with me?)


This is where the post game could come in. Stoudemire has always been able in the post, but for years he has preferred to either dash towards the rim following a face up move, or hit the jumper from the elbow. Take it from someone who scouted him as a high schooler, Stoudemire's moves just haven't changed much even though injuries have addled the hops of a player Beck called "the Blake Griffin of his generation." They haven't changed because they haven't needed to change — because when you enter 2011-12 coming off a year that saw you top 25 points per game, new wrinkles don't seem all that necessary.


It's necessary, now. Anthony was a quick shot artist during his time with Team USA this summer, but old habits die hard with the veteran, and Stoudemire can't be clouding up Carmelo's space at the elbow or pinch post. Stoudemire needs to find ways to clear room down low, and be quick and deliberate with his moves. Raymond Felton has had fleeting success as a pick and roll point guard in the past, and Jason Kidd can still throw the flat-footed lob, but Stoudemire is going to have to do his work alone. His teammates will talk up wanting to feed the big man, but training camp promises tend to be forgotten by the first third quarter of the season.


The last one or even two years of the five year deal Amar'e signed for nearly $100 million in 2010 were never going to be a bargain, but with that footwork, touch and apparent work ethic, there's no reason why Stoudemire can't earn every penny this season. He'll turn 30 a month into 2012-13, and with the Knicks clearly in win-now mode Amar'e might have to be the difference between another first round flameout and a chance to make it to the third round.


For the rest of us, we just want a big man that seems like a threat to drop 40. There aren't many of them left, and the drop off between Stoudemire's first and second season in New York was as depressing as it was distressing. Please just be a blip in an otherwise marvelous career, 2011-12. We don't want to see much more of you in 2012-13.
 
40 points is alot when you think about it. How the hell did jeremy drop 38?

Anyways. Let them sleep on stat. I know dude is hungry. I know the team is hungry. Everyone seems so focused. Raymond felton motivated to succeed. Stat on a mission to destroy the league. Tyson and melo with gold medal focus. Camby and kurt wanna finish what they started. Shumo novak and jr wanna take that next step. Kidd wants to prove he can still ball and help comprte for a chip. And mike woody is eager to show hes the right coach for the knicks.

What a great time to be alive. Knick fans lets ride. One more month till training camp
 
Well guys, you've been wondering if the Knicks will get a uni change and it looks like it's happening.

It's not a serious change, but def noticeable.

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Wait, we're wearing t-shirts?
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Na bro, he's saying to look at the font. That new font on the Jason Kidd T-shirt is probably going to be our jersey font now. I'm not a fan of that at all, their was nothing wrong with our classic "New York" curved font. Thats the last thing that needed to change.

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Now look at the font of the new one.

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I knew the boy was being sarcastic, what I didn't know was whether he noticed the change in the new font. Many people haven't so I tried to make it clear.

Ya'll punks really don't like me :lol:

Love It :nthat:
 
Na bro, he's saying to look at the font. That new font on the Jason Kidd T-shirt is probably going to be our jersey font now. I'm not a fan of that at all, their was nothing wrong with our classic "New York" curved font. Thats the last thing that needed to change.
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Now look at the font of the new one.
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c'mon man, really.....you're worse than Toney Douglas... killing the moment, man lol :smh:
 
going back to a more retro looks it seems, im willing to bet it will be like the retros worn 2 seasons ago. except with added grey. round necks for sure, watch.

hope they are nice though, i really liked the current knicks jerseys
 
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