**LOCK NEEDED** 2018-19 NFL thread/ macbk has his back stabbed. Everyone go to nickmaz' thread!

[mikedalton]

I’m here to protect my qb from all slander. Am I late?

 

[aNYone]

Wait

This just dawned on me.

Eli got benched before Mcadoodoo gets fired?

 

[rolaholic]

I’m here to protect my qb from all slander. Am I late?

Your coach dropped some ether himself without words

 

[stillin729]

I’m here to protect my qb from all slander. Am I late?

Are you Andy’s brother?

We forgot about him

 

[EddieDoyers]

 

[ksteezy]

Yo **** THIS ORGANIZATION B! Even Dallas showed Romo more respect...

At this point it doesn’t matter what changes they do and is not like Geno Smith is the Messiah...lord what a trash decision to ruin Eli’s streak, jut keep racking the Ls and let Eli finish off the season...

FIRE MACADOODOO!!! That PoS

 

[RyGuy45]

Ross Tucker: Manning's Hall Case Gets Complicated

Could Eli Manning be hurting his chances of making the Pro Football Hall of Fame?

It's a question that needs to be asked in light of his New York Giants being officially eliminated from the playoffs in Week 12 and subsequently benching Manning entering Week 13. And to give you an indication of just how bad it has gotten in New York, the other two teams with no chance of making the playoffs are the Browns and 49ers.

Manning's legacy and likely spot in the Hall of Fame were seemingly secured back in 2012, when he capped the 2011 season with a second Super Bowl victory over Bill Belichick, Tom Brady and the Patriots.

For many, being the only person to quarterback a team that beat the most dynamic head coach/quarterback combination the NFL has ever seen -- TWICE -- is more than enough to cement his spot in Canton. That feather in his cap is only enhanced with the continued winning and subsequent championships that have been secured by New England after Manning and the Giants took them down on the game's biggest stage a second time. The fact that Manning's two Super Bowl victories are the only two losses for one of the unquestioned greatest quarterbacks of all time is unbelievably impressive.

And those two Lombardi Trophies aren't the only thing on Manning's Hall of Fame resume, mind you. He has started an incredible 222 straight games, including the postseason, and compiled some numbers that absolutely reinforce the positive things he's done during his career, as he ranks among the top eight in both yards and touchdowns for quarterbacks.

The problem for Manning is that ever since that second Lombardi Trophy, his Giants haven't done a whole lot of winning. In fact, they've had only winning season in the past five campaigns. That was last year's 11-5 record that was largely a product of arguably the best defense in the NFL. The two years prior to that, Manning's Giants had back-to-back 6-10 seasons, a mark they have very little chance of meeting this season, now that they're 2-9.

Before discussions begin about subpar draft choices by general manager Jerry Reese or a porous offensive line or injuries or any of those problems, it's important to note that football is absolutely a team game. But for Manning, that goes both ways. His 2007 and '08 squads had among the best offensive and defensive lines in the NFL. If you are going to give Manning a lot of the credit for those two Super Bowl victories -- the only two seasons in which he's won a playoff game, by the way -- then he must take a lot of the blame for what has happened since then.

It's rarified air when looking at the other likely Hall of Famers in his peer group.

His brother, Peyton, went 3-13 as a rookie and just 6-10 in 2001 when his head coach Jim Mora got fired. Other than that, Peyton won at least 10 games in the other 15 NFL seasons in which he played. Aaron Rodgers went just 6-10 in his first year as a starter in 2008 but has won at least 10 games in every season he played all 16 games since then. Brady had a 9-7 season in his first full year as a starter in 2002 but has otherwise quarterbacked the Patriots to double-digit victories every season he's been healthy.

The closest comparison for Eli Manning is probably Drew Brees, as Brees' Saints have won just seven games in four of the past five seasons -- although, with eight wins and counting here in 2017, he looks like he's poised for another season of double-digit victories and a potential playoff run. The difference between Brees and Manning, however, is that Brees has had to overcome a historically inept defense in recent years yet still is already in the top three all-time in completions and yards and has 19 all-time NFL records attached to his name.

This, however, is not about statistical nit-picking. It's about the belief that many have that a true Hall of Fame quarterback should be able to elevate the play of those around him to the point where they are at least competitive. Manning has shown in recent years that he's not able to do that and is on his way to a historically bad season with the Giants in 2017.

Will that be enough to prevent or even slow down his Hall of Fame candidacy? Maybe.

Will it be a major talking point when his case is presented? Absolutely.

 

[ksteezy]

Damn Eli ain’t even hit that Peyton wall yet and they got him out the paint.

They said **** your record.

BRUH IM LIVID THEY DID MY QB LIKE THAT....LIVIIIIIDDDD

I’m behind Eli giving the team the middle finger till they get that **** *** coach out the paint

 

[Benny Hinn]

Giants fans have HAD it

 

[macbk]

Giants and their fans in disarray

 

[va757va]

Ross Tucker: Manning's Hall Case Gets Complicated

Eli had a great D-line when he won games ya say??? This guy obviously didnt watch any giants games!

 

[EddieDoyers]

Kurt unloaded the ether

 

[Benny Hinn]

Geno better than Eli?

Yall have some short term memory on how trash he was. This is a blatant tank job. They want Darnold or Rosen. Plus the news of Darnold not wanting to play for the Browns. This is Eli 2.0 all over again.

 

[651akathepaul]

Geno had his moments. He probably is better than Eli at this point, but they're both trash, so whatever.

 

[DeadsetAce]

current feels right now....

 

[nick.]

To give an idea of how Eli has played this season, his quarterback rating this season (84.1) is:

2 points higher than Jay Cutler
3 points higher than Trevor Siemian
2 points less than Ryan Fitzpatrick
11 points less than Josh McCown

 

[rolaholic]

yikes...that's hard to watch even as a hater

Thats when you know it's real bad,got Pats fans out here feeling sorry for Eli Manning

 

[aNYone]

I can’t imagine how glorious a feeling Eagles fans have been having throughout this season.

1. Dallas, Dak, Dez, Defense all doo doo

2. Giants are one of the worst teams in the league and they just benched their “franchise” QB

3. Washington ain’t seeing the playoffs.

4. And oh yea they have the best record in the league at 10-1.

Mad disarray and dysfunction around them and they’re just chilling like

 

[macbk]

To give an idea of how Eli has played this season, his quarterback rating this season (84.1) is:

2 points less than Ryan Fitzpatrick
11 points less than Josh McCown

JETE won't die

 

[Benny Hinn]

To give an idea of how Eli has played this season, his quarterback rating this season (84.1) is:

2 points higher than Jay Cutler
3 points higher than Trevor Siemian
2 points less than Ryan Fitzpatrick
11 points less than Josh McCown

And Geno will be worse. Beating the Chiefs and almost beating the Skins spooked the FO.

Geno will ride this tank job back on track

 

[EddieDoyers]

I can’t imagine how glorious a feeling Eagles fans have been having throughout this season.

1. Dallas, Dak, Dez, Defense all doo doo

2. Giants are one of the worst teams in the league and they just benched their “franchise” QB

3. Washington ain’t seeing the playoffs.

4. And oh yea they have the best record in the league at 10-1.

Mad disarray and dysfunction around them and they’re just chilling like

Just almost like the 2004 season hmmmmm

 

[kicks2024]

Geno the answer huh

 

[ksteezy]

Man wash ya faces with that Geno >>>> Eli noise, FOH!!!

Eli has seen better days, but we are not a trash team BECAUSE of Eli, we are trash for a large number of reasons....coaching being one on the top of the list.

This is DISGUSTING on another level, classless, Grimey, the epitome of a slap in the face of a guy that’s given everything to this team....

 

[rolaholic]

Just almost like the 2004 season hmmmmm

Spoiler

 

[Benny Hinn]

I can’t imagine how glorious a feeling Eagles fans have been having throughout this season.

1. Dallas, Dak, Dez, Defense all doo doo

2. Giants are one of the worst teams in the league and they just benched their “franchise” QB

3. Washington ain’t seeing the playoffs.

4. And oh yea they have the best record in the league at 10-1.

Mad disarray and dysfunction around them and they’re just chilling like

NFL stands for Not For Long. A lot can change in 1 year. Just last year all those teams were over .500 at this time while the Eagles were dead last.