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I consider myself Independent, lean towards the left, registered Democrat, and I will most likely vote for Obama (again).
However I see no problem with what Mitt Romney said. I'm sure the other 47% of voters are conservative so that leaves around 6% of Independent voters. That makes absolute sense. Whats the issue? I'm sure not all of the 47% of democratic voters are looking for government care but I sure bet most of them are.
Government care (I'm assuming you meant health care is one thing)...but dude came out and said that 47% of America wants free food and housing.
That seems like a stretch.
Oh...also...how in the world are 47% of people not paying any taxes. Is that only counting of-age individuals? That seems insane.
Everyone in the US pays taxes, you can't avoid it, but not everyone makes enough to have to pay INCOME TAXES, those are people below the the poverty line but they still pay sales taxes, gas taxes, utilities taxes, cell phone taxes, blah, blah, blah.
You can't say 47% of the people are dependent on the government. And effectively call them lazy bums, who don't want to work.. Then say you don't care about those people and want to be president of those people..
Just look at how dismissive he is of the 47-49% of the people he says would vote for Obama.. That's military, single mothers, struggling parents, doctors, lawyers, students, etc.
You can't just say You won't vote for me... **** you. I don't care about you at all..
He's not running for class president. He's running for President of the United States.
But he didn't say any of that. He said he's not worried about them, because he will not get there vote. An his numbers are skewed but we all know there is a percentage of people that are dependent on the government and have no incentive to get off. It may not good politics to acknowledge this but we can't trick ourselves into thinking that it's not true. The only thing wrong that he did was linking the 47% that don't pay income tax and those that are complacent on government assistance.
Why is this even news? People who pay attention to politics know that Republicans think this way.
Why is this news and not why the White House, DOJ, the FBI, and the State Department are all telling different stories of the death the Ambassador?
Word? Post them in the other thread. Let me read this.Why is this even news? People who pay attention to politics know that Republicans think this way.
Why is this news and not why the White House, DOJ, the FBI, and the State Department are all telling different stories of the death the Ambassador?
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Hes entrenching with the far right so that they all come out for him.
Just an [size=7][b][url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overton_window]overton window[/url][/b][/size] coming to fruition (don't read into what glenn beck says. I'm disgusted he named his book after a political theory concept). Obama has to move to the middle and mitt just moves to the right.
[size=5][b]Take note of that press conference. Mitt still has no answers. Merely criticism. [/b][/size]
Say what you want but this is just what we call dog whistle politics popularized by lee atwater.and this is where the republican ignorance stems from, word to some people in this thread. also this ridiculous issue was brought up months ago when fat man newt called obama the food stamp president. REALLY? the food stamp president? this bullsht was used as an argument against raising taxes on the rich...and there are a lot of people in this country who clear the quarter milli mark. the argument alone is evidence enough that republicans really don't a give a damn about the low-avg income bracket. its beyond me how this isn't obvious to more thoEveryone in the US pays taxes, you can't avoid it, but not everyone makes enough to have to pay INCOME TAXES, those are people below the the poverty line but they still pay sales taxes, gas taxes, utilities taxes, cell phone taxes, blah, blah, blah.Government care (I'm assuming you meant health care is one thing)...but dude came out and said that 47% of America wants free food and housing.I consider myself Independent, lean towards the left, registered Democrat, and I will most likely vote for Obama (again).
However I see no problem with what Mitt Romney said. I'm sure the other 47% of voters are conservative so that leaves around 6% of Independent voters. That makes absolute sense. Whats the issue? I'm sure not all of the 47% of democratic voters are looking for government care but I sure bet most of them are.
That seems like a stretch.
Oh...also...how in the world are 47% of people not paying any taxes. Is that only counting of-age individuals? That seems insane.
conservative rhetoric nowadays is less constructive argument and more flat out stupid these days and idk how anyone can get down with them, honestly, and it makes for a broken Washington.
and romney is just a yes man who will say anything to be president, even going against his own personal beliefs. everytime i watch the news, this dude is caught saying the direct opposite of what he voted for/did/said in the past. and don't even try to say obama does the same at least on this level. romney is really terrible and you'd think the gap between obama and romney in the polls would be bigger
Word? Post them in the other thread. Let me read this.
On the other hand, Mitt is tossing up these underhanded softballs in yankee stadium though.
You serious? A presidential candidate called half the country entitled leeches on camera, if that's not news then what is?
He got arrogant and chose not to run as an independent.Sorry im late but what ever came about of Ron Paul??
I heard there was a mixup on the day it was announced, what about since then?Word? Post them in the other thread. Let me read this.
On the other hand, Mitt is tossing up these underhanded softballs in yankee stadium though.
Pentagon and State Dept say the attack was coordinated, White House says it wasn't. State Department is deferring people to the DOJ, who won't release a statement.
I ain't eem madReport: Jimmy Carter’s grandson helped leak Romney fundraiser video
Posted by Sean Sullivan on September 18, 2012 at 7:54 am
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Former president Jimmy Carter’s grandson helped leak video of Mitt Romney at a private fundraiser to Mother Jones Magazine, New York Magazine’s Daily Intel blog reports.
James Carter IV helped connect Mother Jones reporter David Corn with video of Romney at a fundraiser saying, among other things, that it is not his “job” to win over the 47 percent of voters committed to President Obama, because they are “dependent on government” and he will “never convince them they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives.”
Carter IV, whose Twitter bio says he is an opposition researcher, told Daily Intel he first noticed online a part of the video in which Romney discusses Chinese labor. Then, as additional footage was added, he tracked down the originating source of the footage and put that person in touch with Corn.
“Any time that you can find a clip that strengthens the narrative already established, that’s what becomes a big deal,” Carter told Daily Intel. “I’ve been trying to get paid for this but it hasn’t worked out yet. This might help.”
You obviously give the general public too much credit for recognizing the obvious
Hey don't hate the player, hate the game.Report: Jimmy Carter’s grandson helped leak Romney fundraiser video
Posted by Sean Sullivan on September 18, 2012 at 7:54 am
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Former president Jimmy Carter’s grandson helped leak video of Mitt Romney at a private fundraiser to Mother Jones Magazine, New York Magazine’s Daily Intel blog reports.
James Carter IV helped connect Mother Jones reporter David Corn with video of Romney at a fundraiser saying, among other things, that it is not his “job” to win over the 47 percent of voters committed to President Obama, because they are “dependent on government” and he will “never convince them they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives.”
Carter IV, whose Twitter bio says he is an opposition researcher, told Daily Intel he first noticed online a part of the video in which Romney discusses Chinese labor. Then, as additional footage was added, he tracked down the originating source of the footage and put that person in touch with Corn.
“Any time that you can find a clip that strengthens the narrative already established, that’s what becomes a big deal,” Carter told Daily Intel. “I’ve been trying to get paid for this but it hasn’t worked out yet. This might help.”
dont be so naive...when this dropped it was a huge blowback for obama. one of his weaknesses are working class white folks, and this
comment came across as if he was elitist.
CNN were even comparing da romney tapes to this very obama dialogue.