NBA Draft Thread 2011

Originally Posted by JaeEvolution

I really like this draft. People say it's weak that is true, on STAR potential.

For role players and guys that every team needs this draft is near perfect.
yeah i been saying this. MUCH better than last year's draft in regards to players that should contribute right away and have solid careers imo. Just no "cant miss" "franchise player" type kind of guys like with Wall last season.

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at Mack's vert/strength, Jimmer's agility numbers will be big time for him and John Leuer's may push him to the 1st round considering his size/jump shot with that kind of agility

did the top prospects participate in this? was suprised to see no Kyrie in any of the agility ones, but it could just be him not being in shape word to his 10% body fat...
 
Originally Posted by JaeEvolution

I really like this draft. People say it's weak that is true, on STAR potential.

For role players and guys that every team needs this draft is near perfect.
yeah i been saying this. MUCH better than last year's draft in regards to players that should contribute right away and have solid careers imo. Just no "cant miss" "franchise player" type kind of guys like with Wall last season.

eek.gif
at Mack's vert/strength, Jimmer's agility numbers will be big time for him and John Leuer's may push him to the 1st round considering his size/jump shot with that kind of agility

did the top prospects participate in this? was suprised to see no Kyrie in any of the agility ones, but it could just be him not being in shape word to his 10% body fat...
 
Originally Posted by JaeEvolution

I really like this draft. People say it's weak that is true, on STAR potential.

For role players and guys that every team needs this draft is near perfect.

Agree.
  
 
Originally Posted by JaeEvolution

I really like this draft. People say it's weak that is true, on STAR potential.

For role players and guys that every team needs this draft is near perfect.

Agree.
  
 
These athletic testings really don't mean %#!$ at the end of the day...but I'm shocked that McCamey weighing well over 200 pounds, couldn't lift 185 once.
 
These athletic testings really don't mean %#!$ at the end of the day...but I'm shocked that McCamey weighing well over 200 pounds, couldn't lift 185 once.
 
Wow, how do you expect to compete at a professional level if you can't bench 185
I was doing that in high school and I was like 150 soaking wet
 
Wow, how do you expect to compete at a professional level if you can't bench 185
I was doing that in high school and I was like 150 soaking wet
 
Originally Posted by omgitswes

Wow, how do you expect to compete at a professional level if you can't bench 185
I was doing that in high school and I was like 150 soaking wet
Because the object of the game isn't to lift weights. 
 
Originally Posted by omgitswes

Wow, how do you expect to compete at a professional level if you can't bench 185
I was doing that in high school and I was like 150 soaking wet
Because the object of the game isn't to lift weights. 
 
Originally Posted by omgitswes

Wow, how do you expect to compete at a professional level if you can't bench 185
I was doing that in high school and I was like 150 soaking wet
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When I used to lift w. some of the dudes @ St. John's they were WEAK.  I'm talking about dudes who were 6'8" 230+, who would be struggling doing incline Incline DB presses with 25s...



  
 
Originally Posted by omgitswes

Wow, how do you expect to compete at a professional level if you can't bench 185
I was doing that in high school and I was like 150 soaking wet
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When I used to lift w. some of the dudes @ St. John's they were WEAK.  I'm talking about dudes who were 6'8" 230+, who would be struggling doing incline Incline DB presses with 25s...



  
 
Yeah I know Durant said when he first entered the league he could barely lift 145 or something like that but now he's a lot stronger.
I just don't see how you can go through the system like high school and college and not lift. I know it's not football but come on
 
Yeah I know Durant said when he first entered the league he could barely lift 145 or something like that but now he's a lot stronger.
I just don't see how you can go through the system like high school and college and not lift. I know it's not football but come on
 
I thought this was pretty cool...here's a DX database of past prospects and their testing #'s.

http://www.draftexpress.c...SC&draft=0&pos=0&sort=16


also, Marshon Brooks is gonna play himself into the lottery. Dude's testing numbers were great...same w. Kanter.

Here's a look at some of the guys the Wizards are targeting:

No-step vertical



1.Marshon Brooks: 34 inches
2.Kenneth Faried: 30.5 inches
3.Chris Singleton: 30.5 inches
4.Tristan Thompson: 30 inches
5.Tyler Honeycutt: 30 inches
6.Derrick Williams: 29 inches
7.Marcus Morris: 29 inches
8.Markieff Morris: 27 inches
9.Klay Thompson: 26.5 inches
10.Enes Kanter: 26 inches
11.Kawhi Leonard: 25.5 inches
12.Jordan Hamilton: 25 inches


Max vertical

1.Josh Selby: 42 inches
2.Marshon Brooks: 38.5 inches
3.Chris Singleton: 37.5 inches
4.Tyler Honeycutt: 37 inches
5.Kenneth Faried: 35 inches
6.Tristan Thompson: 35 inches
7.Derrick Williams: 34.5 inches
8.Enes Kanter: 32.5 inches
9.Kawhi Leonard: 32 inches
10.Markieff Morris: 31.5 inches
11.Klay Thompson: 31.5 inches

Bench Press (number of reps with 185-pound bar)

1.Derrick Williams: 19
2.Kenneth Faired: 16
3.Chris Singleton: 15
4.Enes Kanter: 14
5.Marcus Morris: 11
6.Markieff Morris: 11
7.Tristan Thompson: 9
8.Marshon Brooks: 5
9.Klay Thompson: 5
10.Kawhi Leonard: 3
11.Tyler Honeycutt: 0

Lane agility

1.Marshon Brooks: 10.74 seconds
2.Tristan Thompson: 10.92 seconds
3.Klay Thompson: 10.99 seconds
4.Derrick Williams: 11.03 seconds
5.Enes Kanter: 11.3 seconds
6.Chris Singleton: 11.33 seconds
7.Kenneth Faried: 11.35 seconds
8.Kawhi Leonard: 11.45 seconds
9.Jordan Hamilton: 11.47 seconds
10.Tyler Honeycutt: 11.68 seconds

3/4 court sprint

1.Tyler Honeycutt: 3.02 seconds
2.Chris Singleton: 3.07 seconds
3.Marcus Morris: 3.15 seconds
4.Kawhi Leonard: 3.15 seconds
5.Derrick Williams: 3.23 seconds
6.Enes Kanter: 3.26 seconds
7.Tristan Thompson: 3.26 seconds
8.Kenneth Faried: 3.26 seconds
9.Markieff Morris: 3.4 seconds

http://www.bulletsforever...-wizards-draft#storyjump


*What was the reason why Kyrie Irving didn't go through the combine?
 
I thought this was pretty cool...here's a DX database of past prospects and their testing #'s.

http://www.draftexpress.c...SC&draft=0&pos=0&sort=16


also, Marshon Brooks is gonna play himself into the lottery. Dude's testing numbers were great...same w. Kanter.

Here's a look at some of the guys the Wizards are targeting:

No-step vertical



1.Marshon Brooks: 34 inches
2.Kenneth Faried: 30.5 inches
3.Chris Singleton: 30.5 inches
4.Tristan Thompson: 30 inches
5.Tyler Honeycutt: 30 inches
6.Derrick Williams: 29 inches
7.Marcus Morris: 29 inches
8.Markieff Morris: 27 inches
9.Klay Thompson: 26.5 inches
10.Enes Kanter: 26 inches
11.Kawhi Leonard: 25.5 inches
12.Jordan Hamilton: 25 inches


Max vertical

1.Josh Selby: 42 inches
2.Marshon Brooks: 38.5 inches
3.Chris Singleton: 37.5 inches
4.Tyler Honeycutt: 37 inches
5.Kenneth Faried: 35 inches
6.Tristan Thompson: 35 inches
7.Derrick Williams: 34.5 inches
8.Enes Kanter: 32.5 inches
9.Kawhi Leonard: 32 inches
10.Markieff Morris: 31.5 inches
11.Klay Thompson: 31.5 inches

Bench Press (number of reps with 185-pound bar)

1.Derrick Williams: 19
2.Kenneth Faired: 16
3.Chris Singleton: 15
4.Enes Kanter: 14
5.Marcus Morris: 11
6.Markieff Morris: 11
7.Tristan Thompson: 9
8.Marshon Brooks: 5
9.Klay Thompson: 5
10.Kawhi Leonard: 3
11.Tyler Honeycutt: 0

Lane agility

1.Marshon Brooks: 10.74 seconds
2.Tristan Thompson: 10.92 seconds
3.Klay Thompson: 10.99 seconds
4.Derrick Williams: 11.03 seconds
5.Enes Kanter: 11.3 seconds
6.Chris Singleton: 11.33 seconds
7.Kenneth Faried: 11.35 seconds
8.Kawhi Leonard: 11.45 seconds
9.Jordan Hamilton: 11.47 seconds
10.Tyler Honeycutt: 11.68 seconds

3/4 court sprint

1.Tyler Honeycutt: 3.02 seconds
2.Chris Singleton: 3.07 seconds
3.Marcus Morris: 3.15 seconds
4.Kawhi Leonard: 3.15 seconds
5.Derrick Williams: 3.23 seconds
6.Enes Kanter: 3.26 seconds
7.Tristan Thompson: 3.26 seconds
8.Kenneth Faried: 3.26 seconds
9.Markieff Morris: 3.4 seconds

http://www.bulletsforever...-wizards-draft#storyjump


*What was the reason why Kyrie Irving didn't go through the combine?
 
Wolves still looking to move down, snag Kanter?

There has already been some talk about the Minnesota Timberwolves moving down in the draft. The reasoning is solid. What's available at No. 2 might not help them much and they're likely looking for some veteran help to bring along their young guys.

However, SI.com reports
that the Wolves are thinking of moving down a spot or two to try and get Enes Kanter, while also acquiring a few additional assets.

Kanter has become quite the intriguing prospect, as he's become The Great Unknown Big Man that catches the attention and imagination of general managers. He's big, talented, skilled and has a bunch of upside to be fulfilled. It's hard to know if he'd be available at three or four as he's been mocked to go as high as No. 2 in some places.

My issue here is, how exactly does he benefit the Wolves, other than just being another big body to develop? I suppose they could pick up a second-round pick and maybe a veteran role player moving the No. 2 pick for the No. 4 or 5, but it's not going to be that substantial. And especially for a guy that doesn't completely have a spot on your existing roster.

But this would be SUCH a David Kahn move. Making a deal for the sake of making it and then drafting a guy that doesn't at all fill a need for you. The thought of the Wolves moving down to 10 or so and picking up actual veteran help made sense. So naturally, they're not going to do it.

Kahn just signed his "manna from heaven," Darko Milicic for four years. He's hopefully going to lock up Kevin Love with an extension. Kanter could potentially slide in and play with Love in the front court in the future, but what Kahn would be creating is another positional logjam. Which doesn't make any sense to me.

Which means it makes a ton of sense to David Kahn.
Link

Cavs with #1 and #2 picks.
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Wolves still looking to move down, snag Kanter?

There has already been some talk about the Minnesota Timberwolves moving down in the draft. The reasoning is solid. What's available at No. 2 might not help them much and they're likely looking for some veteran help to bring along their young guys.

However, SI.com reports
that the Wolves are thinking of moving down a spot or two to try and get Enes Kanter, while also acquiring a few additional assets.

Kanter has become quite the intriguing prospect, as he's become The Great Unknown Big Man that catches the attention and imagination of general managers. He's big, talented, skilled and has a bunch of upside to be fulfilled. It's hard to know if he'd be available at three or four as he's been mocked to go as high as No. 2 in some places.

My issue here is, how exactly does he benefit the Wolves, other than just being another big body to develop? I suppose they could pick up a second-round pick and maybe a veteran role player moving the No. 2 pick for the No. 4 or 5, but it's not going to be that substantial. And especially for a guy that doesn't completely have a spot on your existing roster.

But this would be SUCH a David Kahn move. Making a deal for the sake of making it and then drafting a guy that doesn't at all fill a need for you. The thought of the Wolves moving down to 10 or so and picking up actual veteran help made sense. So naturally, they're not going to do it.

Kahn just signed his "manna from heaven," Darko Milicic for four years. He's hopefully going to lock up Kevin Love with an extension. Kanter could potentially slide in and play with Love in the front court in the future, but what Kahn would be creating is another positional logjam. Which doesn't make any sense to me.

Which means it makes a ton of sense to David Kahn.
Link

Cavs with #1 and #2 picks.
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I'm with Kahn on this one, Milicic is a totally different player than Kanter. You can only draft williams if you clear out your roster, you have to keep in mind that it isn't even june yet though, he (Kahn) could be hustling for some real offers from teams who really want Kanter.  I mean Beasely gotta be worth a first round pick in this draft, I am not buying the wolves wanting to keep this guy, they watched last years team. 
 
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