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But we all can agree
Common's acting career > Drake's acting career
Common's acting career > Drake's acting career
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Originally Posted by ILL LEGAL OPERATION
Originally Posted by Deuce King
sillyputty that's a very colorful fruity peeble response champ.
Originally Posted by rocathajordans23
Is everyone trolling in this thread?
Originally Posted by JR Paperstacks
In context, Drake's "catching a body" was clearly in reference to rap. (bodying a verse)
but...whatever.
i believe you're the only person in the world that has lupe fiasco on their hip hop legend list.Originally Posted by Jking0821
Originally Posted by Chrisb9393
Common is more legendary than Lupe...I don't even see how this is arguable.
define legendary and you will see its subjective
Stop itOriginally Posted by JR Paperstacks
In context, Drake's "catching a body" was clearly in reference to rap. (bodying a verse)
but...whatever.
Originally Posted by Deuce King
Do ya'll really think Drake can't bring the heat?
Originally Posted by Deuce King
Also, this thread has really shown some of the newbies and uninformed individuals when it comes to hip hop. I thought we left some of you clowns behind in 2011 but I see you dudes still carry that same ignorance and unwillingness to learn right over into the year of 2012. They say the end of the world is going to occur in 2012, and when folks make comments like Common isn't a legend and Common needs to do diss records to create buzz since they live in the fourth largest city in America I'm almost convinced more so now than ever that the end of the world is near. If so, it's time for you dudes to get your act together and brush up on your hip hop history before you engage in conversations and discussions like this. Don't be afraid to ask questions either, each one teach one.
...'cause I live for this. It isn't just a hobby like that. When they get my #@+@ and play it, I ain't even gotta say it. They know.Originally Posted by AI for MVP
Stop itOriginally Posted by JR Paperstacks
In context, Drake's "catching a body" was clearly in reference to rap. (bodying a verse)
but...whatever.
right...Originally Posted by JR Paperstacks
In context, Drake's "catching a body" was clearly in reference to rap. (bodying a verse)
but...whatever.
Originally Posted by Hazeleyed Honey
I know people have their preferences, but you do not have to like an artist to give credit where it is due and to respect that artist's legacy.
Why does Common need buzz? He is already an established hip hop artist who is already notably respected and is a part of the legacy of Hip Hop. If anything, this helps Drake get more buzz since he stil has to stand the test of time of how long he can last in the game. Common has nothing to prove. Common is a legend, whose legacy in Hip Hop has been entrenched and who is a pioneer of bringing Mid-West hip hop scene to the surface. He has albums and hip hop songs that are critically acclaimed to be on the BEST of Hip Hop's List of ALL TIME. To deny Common's legacy is pure ignorance and shows your lack of hip hop appreciation.
I do like and bump some Drake songs, but I do not like him as an artist. I see his image as fake/phony, and his music to be quite generic. His whole hype/gimmick completely turns me off. However, I will not deny the kid can rap and has talent. He is just not my cup of tea. I also do not think he will come close to Common's accolades and legacy. I just see him as pop-pure fluff who will eventually oversaturate the market and he will become so burned out to the point a new kid will come again and take over and Drake and the crew will die off. The whole OVOXOYMCMBYOLO movement is no different than the gimmicks that were Murder Inc. and G-UNIT and we saw what happened to them. But hey, who knows, my premonitions can be wrong if I am ever proven wrong. We'll see. Common, however, it is not even a question. His legacy speaks for itself. To even say that Common is doing this for buzz and is jealous because of Drake's sales/popularity/records is laughable at best. As I pointed out, Common has nothing to prove.
Originally Posted by Degenerate423
Originally Posted by Hazeleyed Honey
I know people have their preferences, but you do not have to like an artist to give credit where it is due and to respect that artist's legacy.
Why does Common need buzz? He is already an established hip hop artist who is already notably respected and is a part of the legacy of Hip Hop. If anything, this helps Drake get more buzz since he stil has to stand the test of time of how long he can last in the game. Common has nothing to prove. Common is a legend, whose legacy in Hip Hop has been entrenched and who is a pioneer of bringing Mid-West hip hop scene to the surface. He has albums and hip hop songs that are critically acclaimed to be on the BEST of Hip Hop's List of ALL TIME. To deny Common's legacy is pure ignorance and shows your lack of hip hop appreciation.
I do like and bump some Drake songs, but I do not like him as an artist. I see his image as fake/phony, and his music to be quite generic. His whole hype/gimmick completely turns me off. However, I will not deny the kid can rap and has talent. He is just not my cup of tea. I also do not think he will come close to Common's accolades and legacy. I just see him as pop-pure fluff who will eventually oversaturate the market and he will become so burned out to the point a new kid will come again and take over and Drake and the crew will die off. The whole OVOXOYMCMBYOLO movement is no different than the gimmicks that were Murder Inc. and G-UNIT and we saw what happened to them. But hey, who knows, my premonitions can be wrong if I am ever proven wrong. We'll see. Common, however, it is not even a question. His legacy speaks for itself. To even say that Common is doing this for buzz and is jealous because of Drake's sales/popularity/records is laughable at best. As I pointed out, Common has nothing to prove.
So you don't like Drake and find his music to be generic, but you still "bump" his songs? Someone null and void this post. How can you even justify Common going after Drake when people like Kanye and Lil Wayne have put out songs, even an album, dedicated to girl(s) that include singing? Drake isn't the first rapper to do this and he's not the last, it's obvious Common's beef with Drake doesn't just stem from his dislike of the direction in which hip-hop is heading. If he's so worried then he should talk to leaders like Jay-Z and Nas for getting on tracks with artists that are supposedly ruining hip-hop. Of course he wouldn't do that though because he's just trying to get money like every other artist, if he wasn't then he would sit back like Mos Def, Talib Kweli, ArtOfficial, Shin Sight Trio, Masta Ace, Phonte, etc. and make good music. There's no need for him to go after Drake, people will support whatever artists they see fit regardless of what Drake does.
Originally Posted by 0cks
When talking about Common you have to acknowledge his Afrocentric perspective... Anything that strays from blackness is not hip-hop to him... IMO this "beef" could get pretty inflammatory very fast...
Lupe being a legend over Com is hard for me to hear
You would serve as a perfect agent for the raping of the culture...Originally Posted by sekim2detcidda
What some people are neglecting to realize is that this entire profession is about making as much money as possible before your time is up. I think some of the veterans in the industry who were there before over-produced albums, music videos for singles, sponsorships with major international brands, acceptance by white Americans, etc. frequently get jealous because they came at the wrong time or didn't conform to the mainstream recipe. So when we hear some of the respected veterans who never had those huge paydays, but paved the road for the newer artists there is some resentment and or jealousy. To be honest, if I could sing my own hooks and not pay another artist to collaborate or sampling royalties I would do it because i consider myself a businessman. Matter of fact, if i could sing period or had any other talent (acting, mass-appeal, sex-appeal, etc) and could make a million dollars by playing a role I would. Put me on a stage to sing to 20,000 screaming white girls and get $100k just to show up???? Where do I sign up?
But Common has always been against interracial relationships... I'm really not surprised he has problem with a bi-racial kid carrying the hip-hop flag...Originally Posted by superblyTRIFE
Honestly the fact that Common even took the race route with part of his diss kinda pisses me off. There's no need to go at dude being mixe. As a Common fan from the Can I Borrow a Dollar days, duke lost a lot of respect from me for even approaching that topic.Originally Posted by 0cks
When talking about Common you have to acknowledge his Afrocentric perspective... Anything that strays from blackness is not hip-hop to him... IMO this "beef" could get pretty inflammatory very fast...
Lupe being a legend over Com is hard for me to hear
Originally Posted by JR Paperstacks
In context, Drake's "catching a body" was clearly in reference to rap. (bodying a verse)
but...whatever.
There's nothing wrong with being Afrocentric and yeah, Common has been that way. There's a problem with calling out someone's race in a "battle" though. What does that have ANYTHING to do with anything? Exactly--nothing. If you have an issue with him being soft, by all means voice it. But the fact that his mom is white and pops is black? Word?Originally Posted by 0cks
You would serve as a perfect agent for the raping of the culture...Originally Posted by sekim2detcidda
What some people are neglecting to realize is that this entire profession is about making as much money as possible before your time is up. I think some of the veterans in the industry who were there before over-produced albums, music videos for singles, sponsorships with major international brands, acceptance by white Americans, etc. frequently get jealous because they came at the wrong time or didn't conform to the mainstream recipe. So when we hear some of the respected veterans who never had those huge paydays, but paved the road for the newer artists there is some resentment and or jealousy. To be honest, if I could sing my own hooks and not pay another artist to collaborate or sampling royalties I would do it because i consider myself a businessman. Matter of fact, if i could sing period or had any other talent (acting, mass-appeal, sex-appeal, etc) and could make a million dollars by playing a role I would. Put me on a stage to sing to 20,000 screaming white girls and get $100k just to show up???? Where do I sign up?
But Common has always been against interracial relationships... I'm really not surprised he has problem with a bi-racial kid carrying the hip-hop flag...Originally Posted by superblyTRIFE
Honestly the fact that Common even took the race route with part of his diss kinda pisses me off. There's no need to go at dude being mixe. As a Common fan from the Can I Borrow a Dollar days, duke lost a lot of respect from me for even approaching that topic.Originally Posted by 0cks
When talking about Common you have to acknowledge his Afrocentric perspective... Anything that strays from blackness is not hip-hop to him... IMO this "beef" could get pretty inflammatory very fast...
Lupe being a legend over Com is hard for me to hear