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[KingParappa]

You know if Wallace becomes Johnny that Sue will have to be black... Soooooo who can play Sue Storm?

And I kept hearing how they were trying to do an Inhumans movie with at game of thrones type spin. Let me look for an article

EDIT: Found it

Marvel Studios Modeling An INHUMANS Movie After GAME OF THRONES?


This one's a rumor but it's the kind of rumor you hope turns out to be true. A new report says a new Marvel Comics series based on The Inhumans is on the way and that it will inform a Marvel Studios film adaptation.

Mark Julian - 4/2/2013





Here's an intriguing rumor on the Marvel Studios cosmic front. Bleeding Cool has info on an upcoming Marvel NOW! comic book series for The Inhumans. And just as the new Guardians of the Galaxy comic book series from Brian Michael Bendis has elements that will reportedly be in the film, i.e. Tony Stark heading into space to join the team at the end of Iron Man 3; Bleeding Cool reckons that something similar will happen within the confines of The Inhumans comic book. The book is described as being modeled after HBO's Game of Thrones with a House of Medusa, House of Maximus and other noble Houses centered around the Inhuman Royal Family (just like the various Houses in Game of Thrones). The book will be written by Matt Fraction and it's said that for all intents and purposes, if a film happens, The Inhumans will be Marvel Studios' X-Men. Keep this in the rumor bin for now but this news can only please fans of Game of Thrones and Marvel.

Previously, The Inhumans first appeared on the Marvel Studios list of possible films back in 2011 with the discovery of the a logline which reads - "The Inhumans are aliens who were put on Earth as sleeper cell agents to eventually call back their race to take over the planet. Ultimately, the group of aliens fully assimilates and don’t want to cause war." A few months later, Kevin Feige went on record in Entertainment Weekly to state that if an Inhumans film happens it would be as 'an X-Men style ensemble a la The Avengers.' Since that statement, Marvel has gone on to announce The Guardians of the Galaxy for Phase Two which lead many to believe that The Inhumans were no longer a possibility. But perhaps The Inhumans will join Ant-Man and Doctor Strange for Marvel's Phase Three?

Read more at http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/GraphicCity/news/?a=76894#TxlHu17Rwp7Fk0ZH.99

 

[mronegative]

Marnie could be Wallace's sister? Wouldn't wish that on my worst...

 

[tr1ll]

I've never been a fan of changing character races, black or white.

 

[Deleted member 38182]

I've never been a fan of changing character races, black or white.

I see that..... but at the same time I'm not bothered by it as long as they can act.

Idris Elba in Thor was dope.

 

[tr1ll]

Oh Im not going to make a fuss about it, outside of Nick Fury(which, even still, took me a minute to get used to), I never see why its necessary.

 

[nawghtyhare]

im a go out on a limb here................even though blade 3 was trash...............what about Wesley Snipes as BP??????

 

[rfx45]

I rarely saw any backlash for Heimdall being black to be honest, character wasn't big enough and popular enough to be made a big deal about. I mean honestly, how many know who he is coming to the film? I have a very vague knowledge of him. He isn't the center of the comic book series or film so it is fine. Just like Perry White being black in Man of Steel, he is an integral part of the film (and more well known) but he isn't the centerpiece of the film. It won't take anything away from the film.

Johnny Storm changing race is a very big change for a very popular and well loved character. Not only that but it will affect the whole group as stated above, Sue Storm will have to be of the a different race as well. This isn't even a little change like Mandarin being part Indian in IM3 instead of a full blown Asian, this one will be a huge change. It feels more like a publicity stunt to be honest, changing the oldest and most popular comic book family fells like it just a way to get people talking? Just doesn't make any sense at all to make the change other than for that reason.

 

[rrlegend]

im a go out on a limb here................even though blade 3 was trash...............what about Wesley Snipes as BP??????

yo if idris elbra wasnt 2 different characters in marvel universe he would / should be perfect 

 

[rell826]

im a go out on a limb here................even though blade 3 was trash...............what about Wesley Snipes as BP??????

He'd be considered too old although he's probably in better physical shape than anyone else they'd cast and is also fluent in different fighting styles.

The Heimdall controversy was well publicized. via Salon

[h1]The misguided “Thor” race controversy [/h1][h2]The casting of Idris Elba as a Norse god has caused an uproar -- but it's actually part of a Viking movie tradition[/h2]By Bob Calhoun

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Topics: Comic Books, Film Salon, Movies, Entertainment News



Idris Elba as Heimdall in "Thor"

As of Wednesday morning, 1,483 people liked the “Boycott Thor (2011) by Marvel Studios” Facebook page. Among those showing their virtual disapproval of director Kenneth Branagh’s upcoming comic book movie is Elmer Smith of Bradenton, Fla., a “47 year old proud son of the South” with a Confederate flag combined with skull and crossbones as his profile pic. On the Facebook page itself, Ian Tucker writes, “I’ll watch this when they remake ‘Shaft’ with a white guy.” Nikola Brdja Spaskeh, assault rifle in hand in his profile image, adds, “Jewlywood, more History, less Political Correctness and Liberal Agenda,” before wondering if Hollywood will make a movie with “Will Smith as Adolf Hitler” and bemoaning the stealing of European heritage. There is also a link where you can buy “Boycott Thor” T-shirts, bumper stickers and even aprons on zazzle.com.

The reason for the outrage isn’t that Will Smith was cast as the Norse God of Thunder, but because Idris Elba, a British actor of African parentage best known as Stringer Bell on “The Wire,” has been chosen to play Heimdall, the steadfast guardian of the rainbow bridge to Asgard. The boycott was organized late last year by the Council of Conservative Citizens, a white nationalist organization that condemns interracial marriage and refers to blacks as “a retrograde species of humanity.” A Dec. 27, 2010, entry on the group’s “Boycott Thor” website rages against the multiracial Valhalla depicted in the upcoming movie, and points out that Stan Lee “has personally funded Hillary Clinton and Ted Kennedy.”

“It is very clear where his bias lies,” the anonymous author quips.

Surprisingly, African-American fantasy author Charles Saunders, creator of the Sub-Saharan sword and sorcery hero Imaro, weighs in on the side of those who want to keep Heimdall white. “The internal integrity of those mythologies should be acknowledged and respected,” he writes in a Jan. 25 blog post titled “The Heimdall Hullabaloo.” Saunders’ reasons for disparaging an African Heimdall stem from being asked to rework his African-descended characters as Caucasians for a 1985 Roger Corman-produced film called “Amazons.” Saunders finds Hollywood cynicism as the motivation for shifting the race of his own characters in the 1980s and Heimdall today. “To my mind there is something wrong with both pictures,” Saunders concludes, “and I don’t need the likes of the Council of Conservative Citizens or ‘Boycott Thor’ to tell me that.”

But both Saunders and the Council of Conservative Citizens get this all horribly wrong. The casting of Elba has nothing to do with the cultural authenticity of 8th century Scandinavian seafarers, but instead hails from a mid-20th century American cinematic tradition. A few years before the sit-ins and freedom rides or the passage of the Voting Rights Act, the Viking movies produced with American stars and financing had started the march toward integration with the casting of Trinidad-born Calypso singer Edric Connor as Sandpiper in the 1958 Kirk Douglas epic “The Vikings.” However, Connor’s role in “The Vikings” is closer to a slave narrative than a berserker’s saga as he and Tony Curtis escape their Norse bondage by stealing a ship and sailing it for England. This one sequence of “The Vikings” has an alarming parallel to “The Defiant Ones,” Curtis’ other major film of 1958 where he and Sydney Poitier are chained together as they make their getaway from a brutal Southern chain gang.

During the same year that Lyndon Johnson signed the Civil Rights Act into law, Sydney Poitier’s Moorish king in “The Long Ships” (1964) was an antagonistic equal to Richard Widmark’s Viking treasure hunter. Poitier and Widmark had already faced off from opposite sides of the color line in the tense racial drama “No Way Out” (1950), which was also Poitier’s first film. “The Long Ships” would see the two replaying this conflict only with more sword play and Viking panty raids on Portier’s harem. Although the conflict between Moor and Viking is unlikely to upset even the most bigoted “Thor” boycotter, “The Long Ships” shows a reticence on the part of producers to place Vikings in a mono-ethnic setting.

More thorough integration of movie Vikings would have to wait all the way until 1978 with the release of “The Norseman,” a bargain basement effort filmed in Florida swampland with Lee Majors wearing a Roman breastplate for some reason and Italian guys in obvious wigs as totally evil Native Americans. As dwindling factory production in America had become integrated during the last throes of organized labor dominance, “The Norseman” gives us NFL hall of famer Deacon Jones in a horned helmet fighting alongside guys with names like Thorvald, Ragnar and Olif. Near the film’s conclusion, Jones risks Indian arrows to carry the corpse of a fallen Viking back to the ship because the dead man “deserves a Norse burial.” Unfortunately, Jones’ character is named Thrall although it’s doubtful that a Heimdall of any color would bar his entrance into Valhalla when the time comes.

And now that the U.S. has its first African-American president, we also have black Heimdall standing guard over the Rainbow Bridge, deciding which warriors are worthy of entering a multi-ethnic Asgard like an armor-plated St. Peter. While the 1,483 boycotters clicking on the thumb icon on the “Boycott Thor” Facebook page will hardly matter to the success of Marvel/Paramount’s “Thor,” Elba still felt the need to answer his critics as recently as last week. In an April 8 interview with Female First, Elba admits to questioning race when Branagh first offered him the role, but later came around. “It was so refreshing — and a testament to him as an actor and director that his casting was genuinely color blind,” Elba said before adding, “I feel very proud of being part of that movie.”

What should rankle white supremacists even more is that a New York Jew who fought the Nazis during World War II is responsible for making the Norse Thunder God into a modern superhero. Marvel Comics artist Jack Kirby along with writer Stan Lee first put Thor into a comic book in 1962, and had him doing things that were decidedly inauthentic. During Thor’s early four-color adventures, he fought the Stone Men of Saturn, Robert Louis Stevenson’s Mr. Hyde, and even the Greek gods. Four years later, Kirby integrated Marvel’s characters with the creation of the Black Panther, the first black superhero. “There were plenty of white superheroes, so I thought there should be a black hero too,” Kirby told me unpretentiously during one of the times I was fortunate enough to speak with him. After Kirby jumped to DC Comics in the early 1970s, he created that company’s first black superhero as well in the debut issue of “The Forever People” (1971). Ironically, that character’s name was Vykin the Black.

Point made in the comment section:

Thor non-blonds

Is it impossibly geeky to point out that in the context of Marvel Comics, The Norse gods aren't actually either; Norse or Gods. The comic books have occaisionally alluded to the Norse Gods actually being other dimensional, super powerful beings who just happened to get worshiped by the Scandinavians. In practice they've been portrayed as white, though a few characters like Hogun the grim look more like Mongols or Inuit.

You don't hear all this fuss about Thor being blonde rather than a redhead as the mythology portrayed him. Ultimately I fall in the 'who cares what colour the actor is if he does a good job' camp.

 

[tr1ll]

im a go out on a limb here................even though blade 3 was trash...............what about Wesley Snipes as BP??????

He'd be considered too old although he's probably in better physical shape than anyone else they'd cast and is also fluent in different fighting styles.

Wait, this ***** can fight, too?!

I nominate Idris Elba as King of Black People.

 

[Deleted member 38182]

im a go out on a limb here................even though blade 3 was trash...............what about Wesley Snipes as BP??????

He'd be considered too old although he's probably in better physical shape than anyone else they'd cast and is also fluent in different fighting styles.

Wait, this ***** can fight, too?!

I nominate Idris Elba as King of Black People.

Naw I think he was talking about Wesley Snipes 

I was confused for a second too 

 

[rfx45]

The hell is Salon?

Anyways, I feel those are still small and not really considered "well-publicized" since I follow comics books and comic book films and barely heard of it. I may have seen an article or two on the issue but there was barely any backlash like people boycotting the film or criticizing Idris being black ruining the film. I never saw any of that. Again, his character isn't the focal point of the film so it wasn't that big of a deal.

 

[sirdilbert2k10]

I wouldn't mind the change of race in the character, like it said in one of the characters they could always go the adopted route or mixed parents

 

[x Buddha Bless x]

I'd like Wallace to get a big role but I hate Johnny Storm. Pretty sure I'd hate a black one too. It probably plays to his acting strengths though. I feel this is just a rumor though cuz you'd have to make Sue black and I doubt they're doing that. An adoption angle wouldn't work there.

@ who is being considered for being Sue though. Terrible actress.

I remember the Heimdall controversy, it was on the news and the tmz like shows like Extra and Access. I specifically remember cuz Idris talked on it, so did Feige.

Oh Im not going to make a fuss about it, outside of Nick Fury(which, even still, took me a minute to get used to), I never see why its necessary.

The comics the movies are mostly based on are the Ultimate comics and Nick Fury has been black in that since 2000. They've been planning this movie thing for a while, it's why that Nick Fury looked like Sam Jackson before any movie was made

 

[mronegative]

Don't try to reason with RFX. Public opinion is whatever he decides it was, regardless of what happened.

I remember that Heimdall stuff. Every other interview Idris did for Thor touched on that.

 

[illphillip]

Not a fan of them and don't care if they show up. IMO I feel they should be working to include Ms/Captain Marvel and Falcon on the team.

And Henry Pym.

 

[rfx45]

Don't try to reason with RFX. Public opinion is whatever he decides it was, regardless of what happened.

I remember that Heimdall stuff. Every other interview Idris did for Thor touched on that.

Oh! I am sorry if I do not watch Access Hollywood and Extra on a daily basis. I don't have TMZ as my homepage, please forgive me!

 

[mronegative]

See?

 

[rfx45]

See?

Stop it. Just because I disagreed with you several times before, stop holding a grudge.

I never said it didn't happen, I just didn't see it. Keyword "I". When did I ever say I = everyone? ? ? I never blatantly say "No, You are wrong!" All I said was I never/barely saw it.

Get over it dude.

 

[mronegative]

There I go not taking my own advice.

Keyword "I". When did I ever say I = everyone? ? ?

I rarely saw any backlash for Heimdall being black to be honest...

Backlash from whom? Everyone.

character wasn't big enough and popular enough to be made a big deal about. I mean honestly, how many know who he is coming to the film? I have a very vague knowledge of him. He isn't the center of the comic book series or film so it is fine.

Okay...that's your opinion...what does that have to do with whether there was backlash against his casting or not?
We all remember it and it was 2 years ago, so I'd guess that'd it was kind of a big deal.

I never blatantly say "No, You are wrong!" All I said was I never/barely saw it.

Hmm.

Anyways, I feel those are still small and not really considered "well-publicized" since I follow comics books and comic book films and barely heard of it. I may have seen an article or two on the issue but there was barely any backlash like people boycotting the film or criticizing Idris being black ruining the film. I never saw any of that. Again, his character isn't the focal point of the film so it wasn't that big of a deal.

That's you telling him he's wrong. And saying, "whatever...I don't care if you can prove you're right...it wasn't a big deal, because I said so...because I'm narcissistic enough to believe that however I intuit people should respond to anything is how they did and how it really was."

The hell is Salon?

A pretty big news magazine like Slate and the Huffington Post.

But that probably just means random sensitive blog dude found on the 50th page of google results to you.

The racists are going to have fun with this one just like Elba playing Heimdall.

This was the comment. You're allowed to give your opinion on things without trying to speak for everyone, especially when it's really easy to prove you wrong.

Was there backlash? Yes. Did it make sense? Barely. Was it a big deal? Big enough, that it gives us an idea of how bad it'd be with Johnny Storm.

That's all.

 

[x Buddha Bless x]

Well yeah it definitely happened. I did say it was also on regular news but I guess you can ignore that. It's quite natural for Extra to have heavy focus on actors when their movies are coming out and that was a hot topic. PPL defintiely were talking about boycotting it but those were racists and quite frankly not many Americans give a damn about Scandinavian/Norse mythology.

It was definitely discussed in the Thor thread. I'm pretty sure it's discussed in this thread too.

I expect this Johnny stuff to be bigger despite the wider acceptance of race and things like this cuz he's a big name, sort of the most relatable to fans in personality, etc.. I expect if this is confirmed and happens that the backlash will up there with Bendis replacing Ultimate Peter Parker with a black and Hispanic Miles Morales.

Not a fan of them and don't care if they show up. IMO I feel they should be working to include Ms/Captain Marvel and Falcon on the team.

And Henry Pym.

Well I'm assuming this Ant-Man film is Pym and imo a solo movie that is a success pretty much guarantees some involvement with the Avengers at some point.

 

[rfx45]

I never blatantly say "No, You are wrong!" All I said was I never/barely saw it.

Hmm.

Anyways, I feel those are still small and not really considered "well-publicized" since I follow comics books and comic book films and barely heard of it. I may have seen an article or two on the issue but there was barely any backlash like people boycotting the film or criticizing Idris being black ruining the film. I never saw any of that. Again, his character isn't the focal point of the film so it wasn't that big of a deal.

That's you telling him he's wrong. And saying, "whatever...I don't care if you can prove you're right...it wasn't a big deal, because I said so...because I'm narcissistic enough to believe however I intuit people should and did respond to anything is how it really was."

Again, stop. You are just twisting everything around again and reaching.

You can clearly say I wrote "I feel". I didn't claim he was wrong at all. I even said I saw/read an article but I didn't see it as a big deal. Stop changing my words and twisting them to try and prove your point, my opinions are mine and no one has to agree, just like those other guys did and they just let it go. You are the only one making a bigger deal than it is.


Again, "I" didn't see/feel it, why is that so hard to understand?

Anyways, I feel those are still small and not really considered "well-publicized" since I follow comics books and comic book films and barely heard of it. I may have seen an article or two on the issue but there was barely any backlash like people boycotting the film or criticizing Idris being black ruining the film. I never saw any of that. Again, his character isn't the focal point of the film so it wasn't that big of a deal.

 

[mronegative]

Do you think there was a decently big backlash to Marvel casting Idris Elba in Thor?

Right: I feel like it's not a big deal. I don't really know the character, so it's nothing to me. But I guess a lot of people were mad, and that was stupid.

Wrong: I feel like it's not a big deal. I don't see why it would've been, so I'm gonna go ahead and assume it wasn't and you're just reaching right now.

One of those is an opinion, the other is someone trying to assume facts.


I mean....do you think there was a decently big backlash?

 

[rfx45]

Do you think there was a decently big backlash to Marvel casting Idris Elba in Thor?



Wrong: I feel like it's not a big deal. I don't see why it would've been, so I'm gonna go ahead and assume it wasn't and you're just reaching right now.

One of those is an opinion, the other is someone trying to assume facts.

How is that the same as my answer here?

Anyways, I feel those are still small and not really considered "well-publicized" since I follow comics books and comic book films and barely heard of it. I may have seen an article or two on the issue but there was barely any backlash like people boycotting the film or criticizing Idris being black ruining the film. I never saw any of that. Again, his character isn't the focal point of the film so it wasn't that big of a deal.

I did not assume, that is what I actually saw and read.

Maybe people have different definition of "big deal"? Boston bombing? Big deal. Race of Heimdall? Not so much an issue in mind. Am I wrong because I do not feel strongly enough to see the hate/issue Heimdall being black got? I guess in your opinion, I am wrong because I do not agree with you that it isn't a big deal. I never said no one else should think it is a big deal, to them it could be a very big deal but not to me. If I saw that the film actually lost revenue and people were in outside theaters boycotting the film because of it, then it is a big deal to me. An article posted on SHH saying they disagree about the casting, not a big deal to me. Never said it never happened, I never saw the big backlash, that simple.

*waits for this post to be twisted to have a different meaning again*

Well yeah it definitely happened. I did say it was also on regular news but I guess you can ignore that. It's quite natural for Extra to have heavy focus on actors when their movies are coming out and that was a hot topic. PPL defintiely were talking about boycotting it but those were racists and quite frankly not many Americans give a damn about Scandinavian/Norse mythology.

It was definitely discussed in the Thor thread. I'm pretty sure it's discussed in this thread too.

Is it far fetch for someone not o watch Extra or Access Hollywood? Hell most of the breaking news I get from NT General. When it comes to TV, I watch BBall game and a handful of TV show and mostly on HBO or Showtime.

I only read SSH, CBR, CS, etc... If it was posted there, it is usually there once and not a recurring issue where they would post every actors opinion on the debate. To me, that just isn't a big deal or a huge backlash.

 

[Deleted member 38182]

jesus what the hell is going on here