NFL Discussion Thread: Pats win SB XLIX. Offseason begins

[DeadsetAce]

But he does make plays right?

i'm half kidding when i say this, but his entire fan base and half the country doesn't want the ball in his hands when the game is on the line...so you tell me

 

[Chester McFloppy]

I listened the the Around the NFL podcast and the most recent episode is called the Dalton scale. Basically Andy is the measuring stick for mediocre.


In prime time games and playoffs Andy has worse numbers than EJ Manuel.

The idea is that with any QB better than Andy Dalton you have a franchise QB and can look to solve other problems.


With any QB worse than Andy the position is a problem and you need to find a replacement.


Andy lives somewhere in a weird middle zone.

The worst part of it all is that Andy can't even be Alex Smith in primetime. The lights come on and he tenses up like a groundhog that just saw it's shadow. Goes out and plays the worst football of his career... but some random Sunday afternoon game against a decent team? He'll drop 350 yards and 3 TDs.

**** is really bizarre.

 

[dmxfury]

rodgers/luck are the only qbs that would be able to match or do better than what russ has done with our o-line and receivers. maybe cam because he's damn good at escaping pressure like russ.

Forgetting a few QBs I think



Last three years Bengals have had SB winning takent. Luckily Andy isn't ready for it. I fear the day he turns it around

 

[jayfiend]

Well I've seen several Sea WR's make great catches... That's the point I'm trying to make.

 

[DeadsetAce]

Well I've seen several Sea WR's make great catches... That's the point I'm trying to make.

oh gotcha

 

[100027]

The worst part of it all is that Andy can't even be Alex Smith in primetime. The lights come on and he tenses up like a groundhog that just saw it's shadow. Goes out and plays the worst football of his career... but some random Sunday afternoon game against a decent team? He'll drop 350 yards and 3 TDs.

**** is really bizarre.

His level of consistent inconsistency is truly baffling.  And he has an elite O-Line, some really nice RBs and pass catchers.

So where is Alex Smith on the Dalton scale?

Alex Smith could almost be the scale himself.

 

[dmxfury]

And his 1:00 numbers vs other games are so different. Unlike anything I remember

 

[100027]

Andy had a 2.0 QB rating against Cleveland and a 143.9 rating against New Orleans the next week 

 

[Chester McFloppy]

His level of consistent inconsistency is truly baffling.  And he has an elite O-Line, some really nice RBs and pass catchers.

So where is Alex Smith on the Dalton scale?

Alex Smith could almost be the scale himself.

I have Alex slightly ahead of Andy simply because he has a playoff win and should have beaten that Colts team (had 3-4 passing TDs, like 70% completion percentage, really solid game). He's also played on two different teams and found success on them.

Alex's biggest problem is that he's too afraid to make a mistake. The man simply won't throw the ball farther than 10 yards and will check down every single dropback if he has to. His numbers, completion percentage, and QBR always look good because of this... but the guy won't win you a game on his own. 110 games played, 14 fourth quarter comebacks. :x

 

[100027]

That Colts game was the anti Andy Dalton performance.

 

[stillin729]

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[licensed to ball]

Which team might the new PAT rule affect the most?


None other than NT's favorite... the Browns! They currently have two rookie kickers on their squad.

don't forget the old guy kickers too

Good think Nate Kaeding isn't around anymore.

licensed to ball

 

[Chester McFloppy]

 

[SneakerProSr.]

And his 1:00 numbers vs other games are so different. Unlike anything I remember

On that podcast they broke it down and his winning percentage and stats are borderline elite when remove prime time games

 

[MON5T3R]

To be fair, didnt the Bengals have basically no offensive weapons in this year's playoff game? I believe AJ Green and Gresham were both out

 

[MON5T3R]

True but Eifert was out too so they didnt even have a decent backup tight end. Dalton was BAD don't get me wrong but all he had was Sanu and his RBs to try and keep up with the Colts offense

 

[dmxfury]

Yeah this past year they were banged up but doesn't excuse all the other prime time games

 

[stillin729]

I bet Dalton wears sandals with socks

 

[Hahahaha]

Colts really didn't address their defense. Hahahaha, my goodness what a mistake that was.

 

[DeadsetAce]

Colts really didn't address their defense. Hahahaha, my goodness what a mistake that was.

some things never change

 

[stillin729]

Pagano is getting a pass because of his story

I hate to say it because it was great and got me teary eyed but it's the truth

 

[Chester McFloppy]

Pagano is getting a pass because of his story

I hate to say it because it was great and got me teary eyed but it's the truth

It's 100% the truth. I'd love to see Luck on a Mike McCarthy team. :x

 

[a55a5in11]

If I remember correctly that playoff game didn't break open untill the middle of the 3rd.

Not to mention it was the colts defense. An average unit.

Also I think they decided to stop running the ball (heh Marvin).

Pagano is another overrated coach that's getting carried by his franchise QB.

Yu. I said it than and I will say it now

Pagano sucks and if he didn't get sick Arians would be the HC

 

[100027]

Ariana is such a perfect fit for luck it's insane.

Meanwhile he's stuck with Carson Palmer... at best

 

[illoquent aka dsk]

Darrelle Revis could come out and say he financially supported ISIS as a member of the Patriots + expose Tom cheating off the field with another man.

Don't 'eem care and doesn't change my opinion of dude. He'll walk and talk as a Jet now because Woody went all in on him and Bob/BB chose not to engage.

Thank you for your contributions on that 1 year run. Wouldn't have won without you.