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Originally Posted by doyung9
After seeing Matt Flynn throw for 480 and 6 TDs against a team TRYING TO WIN, you guys really going to tell me Aaron Rodgers (who I like as a player) should be MVP over Brees? Did you see how the offense moved for the Saints once Chase Daniel got in there.
I'm sorry, I still think he's a Top 5 QB, but Rodgers benefits from being in a good system with great players, not saying the Saints don't have a great core around Brees, but he's more "valuable" to the Saints.
Can't wait for Saturday. Lions don't wanna come to the Dome.
shuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuttttttttt uuuupppppppppppOriginally Posted by doyung9
After seeing Matt Flynn throw for 480 and 6 TDs against a team TRYING TO WIN, you guys really going to tell me Aaron Rodgers (who I like as a player) should be MVP over Brees? Did you see how the offense moved for the Saints once Chase Daniel got in there.
I'm sorry, I still think he's a Top 5 QB, but Rodgers benefits from being in a good system with great players, not saying the Saints don't have a great core around Brees, but he's more "valuable" to the Saints.
Can't wait for Saturday. Lions don't wanna come to the Dome.
Originally Posted by psk2310
I don't think it's fair to say Flynn had a fluke game. I think he's a decent QB that has learned from one of the best staffs in the NFL. He also has arguably the best receiving corp in the NFL too. That said, I don't think he would do well on another team unless they have the same (or near) as the Packers do.
I would actually give Co-MVPs to Breezy & AB. They both had monster years. Best Defensive player would go to Jared Allen. Offensive ROY would be Cam Newton & defensive ROY would go to Aldon Smith. I'd give coach of the year to McCarthy (slightly over Jim Harbaugh) & most improved player to Alex Smith.
Originally Posted by Deuce King
psk2310 wrote:
I don't think it's fair to say Flynn had a fluke game. I think he's a decent QB that has learned from one of the best staffs in the NFL. He also has arguably the best receiving corp in the NFL too. That said, I don't think he would do well on another team unless they have the same (or near) as the Packers do.
I would actually give Co-MVPs to Breezy & AB. They both had monster years. Best Defensive player would go to Jared Allen. Offensive ROY would be Cam Newton & defensive ROY would go to Aldon Smith. I'd give coach of the year to McCarthy (slightly over Jim Harbaugh) & most improved player to Alex Smith.
Some of the things I read here are simply amazing.Originally Posted by SneakerPro
Drew Brees is probably my favorite non Lion in the NFL but this MVP talk is crazy to me because its simply based on gaudy numbers.
Originally Posted by psk2310
Originally Posted by Deuce King
psk2310 wrote:
I don't think it's fair to say Flynn had a fluke game. I think he's a decent QB that has learned from one of the best staffs in the NFL. He also has arguably the best receiving corp in the NFL too. That said, I don't think he would do well on another team unless they have the same (or near) as the Packers do.
I would actually give Co-MVPs to Breezy & AB. They both had monster years. Best Defensive player would go to Jared Allen. Offensive ROY would be Cam Newton & defensive ROY would go to Aldon Smith. I'd give coach of the year to McCarthy (slightly over Jim Harbaugh) & most improved player to Alex Smith.
You were doing good till you got to the end champ.
Originally Posted by Deuce King
Originally Posted by psk2310
Originally Posted by Deuce King
You were doing good till you got to the end champ.
Who were you going to give it to? I think McCarty should get it because his team has been so dominant. The only team that can beat them at this point is themselves (really if their D let's the other team out score their offense).
The coach of the year IS and should be Jim Harbaugh without question. As far as the Packers go and the only team that can beat them at this point being themselves...............the Kansas City Chiefs thought differently and the final score of the game proved that.
Originally Posted by FIRST B0RN
Some of the things I read here are simply amazing.Originally Posted by SneakerPro
Drew Brees is probably my favorite non Lion in the NFL but this MVP talk is crazy to me because its simply based on gaudy numbers.![]()
Originally Posted by damnitzdom
wait. harbaugh isn't in the discussion for coach of the year?
Originally Posted by DeadsetAce
it's just like how some people in WIR and some analysts have said, it's evident the real MVP of the league is peyton manning after a manningless colts go 2-14.
THIS.Originally Posted by DeadsetAce
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i don't think people are saying rodgers is a product of a system. they're just saying if you look at relative importance to their respective teams...rodgers' perceived importance takes a hit when the backup goes out and breaks the franchise record for yards and throws 6TDs. in NO WAY am i saying rodgers isn't important or doesn't deserve MVP, but that's just the perception. and again, if he didn't lose against KC, we are talking hands down unanimous MVP for rodgers. but that loss and flynn's performance definitely opens up some room for co-mvp talk. not brees for MVP talk, but co-mvp talk.
it's just like how some people in WIR and some analysts have said, it's evident the real MVP of the league is peyton manning after a manningless colts go 2-14.
Deuce King wrote:
The coach of the year IS and should be Jim Harbaugh without question. As far as the Packers go and the only team that can beat them at this point being themselves...............the Kansas City Chiefs thought differently and the final score of the game proved that.
Yea with each Niners win, Mike Singletary just looked worse and worse. What was up with him? Did he just not know how to really get everything out
of the players or something?
The coach of the year IS and should be Jim Harbaugh without question.