NT OPEN YOUR EYES...*insert sarcasm*

[antonlavey]

Originally Posted by ATLien Seeko

AntonLaVey wrote:

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Originally Posted by 18th letter

AntonLaVey wrote:

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man why even come in here?

I expected LULz....interesting stuff tho.



You are an interesting man to me. From what I can see from a message board, you seem extremely vulnerable, lost and crying for help.

I'm curious to know what your future will be like...
Would you like to offer any advice on how I could achieve a successful and fulfilling life and future oh wise one? You can start by helping me acethis exam tomorrow.

I shouldn't be that interesting. I am man in its most BASIC form. I take a very simplistic, earthly and humanist view on life. Everyone else is interestingto me.

Cry for help?...why cause I made a thread about being stressed and anxious?

Nah but really if you got any advice, send it over....I need a hug.

 

[harlemtothebronx]

I've always heard Mos' references to the "boogie man", but dude put it all out there with this one.

 

[atlien seeko]

AntonLaVey wrote:

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Originally Posted by ATLien Seeko

AntonLaVey wrote:

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Originally Posted by 18th letter

AntonLaVey wrote:

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man why even come in here?

I expected LULz....interesting stuff tho.



You are an interesting man to me. From what I can see from a message board, you seem extremely vulnerable, lost and crying for help.

I'm curious to know what your future will be like...
Would you like to offer any advice on how I could achieve a successful and fulfilling life and future oh wise one? You can start by helping me ace this exam tomorrow.

I shouldn't be that interesting. I am man in its most BASIC form. I take a very simplistic, earthly and humanist view on life. Everyone else is interesting to me.

Cry for help?...why cause I made a thread about being stressed and anxious?

Nah but really if you got any advice, send it over....I need a hug.

I think you really mean that sincerely. And I never saw your post about being stressed and anxious. It's just something I picked up on from dialogthroughout various threads.

Also, by no means am I trying to come off as a "wise one", but if that's how people see me, I'm flattered. Even if it's sarcasm, I'drather come off as attempting to be wise than mindless.

The only advice I could offer you is to try a diferent approach and outlook on life. Reconsider this LaVey guy you look up to so much...

HBD btw.

 

[lesfamilia]

I love reading about stuff like this. HueyP, please PM me some links and some sources I can look for at my local library or the nearest bookstore.

And to the uninitiated, or those still trying to build a frame of reference to help get an idea of what "the big picture" looks like: Scholars theworld over cannot deny that Africa is the absolute cradle of civilization, just as archeologists know that Jesus Christ actually walked this Earth eons ago. Bearing this mind, don't you all find it strange that we have pyramids in not only Egypt, but also what is now Mexico and through South and CentralAmerica?

Huey's comment about Blacks and Hispanics lacking identities resonates with me, because while my mother is a Hispanic (Panamanian) and my father Black,they each have diverse lineage, with my mother's mother being from Spain and her father being from India. My father's father was from the Bahamas...So does all that make my mother a Spanish-Indian, and my dad a Bajan-American?

And I was intrigued by the YouTube clip discussing the fourth dimension. I still believe time travel is possible; I just feel like the humans capable ofmaking it possible haven't embraced it or simply haven't made it known to the masses... yet. After all, I compare the human brain at different partsin one's life to a video game system that keeps getting updated. For example, just think about how rigid Solid Snake moved in Metal Gear Solid (funny Ishould reference that game in a post like this) for the PlayStation, and then think about how smooth he was able to fight with in Metal Gear Solid 4 on thePlayStation 3. The former is our brains during childhood; we have a decent grasp of life and basic habits. The latter is our brains during their prime, whichis our adulthood.

While our realities are based on our perceptions, our perceptions of reality can change if we try to make them change. Otherwise, we'll just accept whatthe status quo and paradigms are and live an otherwise blithe (yet uninformed) existence. God gave us free will, so no matter how you look at it, the choiceis yours...

 

[hueyp in louiev]

Originally Posted by airmaxpenny1

Can someone explain the Crowley stuff to me a little more? I read a little bit about him, seems like he has pretty extensive knowledge of mysticism and aborignal ways or whatever, but not realy understanding his exact significance.

Dude was the father of modern day satanism.

Allegedly he went to Egypt, fell into a trance and was spoken to by God/Devil in the form of an entity he called Aiwass. He wrote a book of law, that combinedwestern occult traditions with Eastern mysticism, its basically the "satanic bible". He sought to resurrect the fallen angel (Satan) back to theheavens and bring about the era of the anti-Christ. He took many of the ancient Egyptian rituals and principles and used them for devil worship.Most (if notall) the black magick currently associated with popular culture today has roots in Crowley's work. If you read some of Crowley's work and the works ofhis numerous successors...you will see the occult footprint clear as day on many of your favorite works of entertainment. Particularly Jay...notice he hasthese little quirks that no else has, like growing his hair when making his albums. That textbook occult. Its meant to give you more power (like Sampson) andallow your body to be more receptive to magick. Jay is all over the place though, little black magick, little Egypt, little Christianity, little Judaism,little Islam, little Buddhism. You can tell he studied a lot of stuff and he mixes them together his own little recipe for influence and power (real orimagined)...but you can never tell where these cats heads really are...I take their work for what its worth nowadays but always keep 1 eye open.

This dude Eddo was clowning about Petey Pablo in the music forum the other day and I went back to look at his old videos and started seeing them in a differentlight. From Diary of a Sinner:



You can see the Eye of Horus all over the video, Masonic square clearly visible on Tim's shirt , the moons and two pillars, being raised to the heavens(remember I pointed out that Pink performance at the VMAs) and the hook has its own little message (repetitive chant). When I was young I just absorbed it anddidn't know any better but I can see whats good now. You can see it all in Timbaland's character...That Fade To Black movie shows you a lot of the behind the scenes stuff if you have some understanding and a keeneye.

And the children (and grown folk) today are still blindly absorbing images and messages connected to archetypes and ideologies that they aren't even awareof.


Its a possibility that Mos is exposing these industry secrets and the undercurrent of black magick, with the song title, hidden images and lyrics...or he couldvery possibly be down with it himself. I really can't call it but this video definitely placed these things on the table to be discussed.

 

[lesfamilia]

HueyP, I don't think what you said about Jay has ever been more evident than on "Run This Town":

Get your fatigues on / All black everything
Black cars, black cards / All black everything
Hmmm...

 

[antonlavey]

Originally Posted by ATLien Seeko

AntonLaVey wrote:

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Originally Posted by ATLien Seeko

AntonLaVey wrote:

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Originally Posted by 18th letter

AntonLaVey wrote:

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man why even come in here?

I expected LULz....interesting stuff tho.

You are an interesting man to me. From what I can see from a message board, you seem extremely vulnerable, lost and crying for help.

I'm curious to know what your future will be like...
Would you like to offer any advice on how I could achieve a successful and fulfilling life and future oh wise one? You can start by helping me ace this exam tomorrow.

I shouldn't be that interesting. I am man in its most BASIC form. I take a very simplistic, earthly and humanist view on life. Everyone else is interesting to me.

Cry for help?...why cause I made a thread about being stressed and anxious?

Nah but really if you got any advice, send it over....I need a hug.

I think you really mean that sincerely. And I never saw your post about being stressed and anxious. It's just something I picked up on from dialog throughout various threads.

Also, by no means am I trying to come off as a "wise one", but if that's how people see me, I'm flattered. Even if it's sarcasm, I'd rather come off as attempting to be wise than mindless.

The only advice I could offer you is to try a diferent approach and outlook on life. Reconsider this LaVey guy you look up to so much...

HBD btw.
Your perception of me is clearly skewed by assumptions on 1. My beliefs and 2. Your own self-righteousness


Give you some advice....whenever you see me post keep two things in mind 1. I am very sarcastic ansd satirical 2. My ideas on life are the least bit trivial.To understand them requires one to in essence, come back to earth and the embrace the reality of our existence.

What may this approach be I need to take be? God? spirituality? phantoms?. My reality and needs and your reality are completely different. Although I have asomewhat pessimistic outlook on life and I have no faith in humanity....on a personal level I am doing pretty well for myself. I literally have nothing tocomplain about.Most people have it way worse than I do, which is why I find humor in Ls or unfortunate events in my life.

Laters, wish me luck.

 

[kix4kix]

That Petey Pablo video. Wow.

 

[Jordan8]

Originally Posted by HueyP in LouieV

Originally Posted by airmaxpenny1

Can someone explain the Crowley stuff to me a little more? I read a little bit about him, seems like he has pretty extensive knowledge of mysticism and aborignal ways or whatever, but not realy understanding his exact significance.

Dude was the father of modern day satanism.

Allegedly he went to Egypt, fell into a trance and was spoken to by God/Devil in the form of an entity he called Aiwass. He wrote a book of law, that combined western occult traditions with Eastern mysticism, its basically the "satanic bible". He sought to resurrect the fallen angel (Satan) back to the heavens and bring about the era of the anti-Christ. He took many of the ancient Egyptian rituals and principles and used them for devil worship.Most (if not all) the black magick currently associated with popular culture today has roots in Crowley's work. If you read some of Crowley's work and the works of his numerous successors...you will see the occult footprint clear as day on many of your favorite works of entertainment. Particularly Jay...notice he has these little quirks that no else has, like growing his hair when making his albums. That textbook occult. Its meant to give you more power (like Sampson) and allow your body to be more receptive to magick. Jay is all over the place though, little black magick, little Egypt, little Christianity, little Judaism, little Islam, little Buddhism. You can tell he studied a lot of stuff and he mixes them together his own little recipe for influence and power (real or imagined)...but you can never tell where these cats heads really are...I take their work for what its worth nowadays but always keep 1 eye open.

This dude Eddo was clowning about Petey Pablo in the music forum the other day and I went back to look at his old videos and started seeing them in a different light. From Diary of a Sinner:



You can see the Eye of Horus all over the video and the hook has its own little message (repetitive chant). When I was young I just absorbed it and didn't know any better but I can see what good now. You can see it all in Timbaland's character.

And the children (and grown folk) today are still blindly absorbing images and messages connected to archetypes and ideologies that they aren't even aware of.


Its a possibility that Mos is exposing these industry secrets and the undercurrent of black magick, with the song title, hidden images and lyrics...or he could very possibly be down with it himself. I really can't call it but this video definitely placed these things on the table to be discussed.

my guy loves that Crowley dude he's always said that Crowley wasnt a satanist he said/did alot of things for attention. He was more of an anti-Christiandude who was more of an anton lavey(not the Niketalker) who used "Satan" as a metaphor like in the hebrew term as an adversary or enemy. He wasagainst the system. Anarchist type dude. He even spread rumors that he killed kids for attention.

 

[hypebeast mcstreetwear]

Originally Posted by cartune

Originally Posted by HueyP in LouieV

Originally Posted by airmaxpenny1

Can someone explain the Crowley stuff to me a little more? I read a little bit about him, seems like he has pretty extensive knowledge of mysticism and aborignal ways or whatever, but not realy understanding his exact significance.

Dude was the father of modern day satanism.

Allegedly he went to Egypt, fell into a trance and was spoken to by God/Devil in the form of an entity he called Aiwass. He wrote a book of law, that combined western occult traditions with Eastern mysticism, its basically the "satanic bible". He sought to resurrect the fallen angel (Satan) back to the heavens and bring about the era of the anti-Christ. He took many of the ancient Egyptian rituals and principles and used them for devil worship.Most (if not all) the black magick currently associated with popular culture today has roots in Crowley's work. If you read some of Crowley's work and the works of his numerous successors...you will see the occult footprint clear as day on many of your favorite works of entertainment. Particularly Jay...notice he has these little quirks that no else has, like growing his hair when making his albums. That textbook occult. Its meant to give you more power (like Sampson) and allow your body to be more receptive to magick. Jay is all over the place though, little black magick, little Egypt, little Christianity, little Judaism, little Islam, little Buddhism. You can tell he studied a lot of stuff and he mixes them together his own little recipe for influence and power (real or imagined)...but you can never tell where these cats heads really are...I take their work for what its worth nowadays but always keep 1 eye open.

This dude Eddo was clowning about Petey Pablo in the music forum the other day and I went back to look at his old videos and started seeing them in a different light. From Diary of a Sinner:



You can see the Eye of Horus all over the video and the hook has its own little message (repetitive chant). When I was young I just absorbed it and didn't know any better but I can see what good now. You can see it all in Timbaland's character.

And the children (and grown folk) today are still blindly absorbing images and messages connected to archetypes and ideologies that they aren't even aware of.


Its a possibility that Mos is exposing these industry secrets and the undercurrent of black magick, with the song title, hidden images and lyrics...or he could very possibly be down with it himself. I really can't call it but this video definitely placed these things on the table to be discussed.

my guy loves that Crowley dude he's always said that Crowley wasnt a satanist he said/did alot of things for attention. He was more of an anti-Christian dude who was more of an anton lavey(not the Niketalker) who used "Satan" as a metaphor like in the hebrew term as an adversary or enemy. He was against the system. Anarchist type dude. He even spread rumors that he killed kids for attention.

So he was the 1st troll?

 

[hueyp in louiev]

Originally Posted by cartune


my guy loves that Crowley dude he's always said that Crowley wasnt a satanist he said/did alot of things for attention. He was more of an anti-Christian dude who was more of an anton lavey(not the Niketalker) who used "Satan" as a metaphor like in the hebrew term as an adversary or enemy. He was against the system. Anarchist type dude. He even spread rumors that he killed kids for attention.

He probably was doing saying all of that for attention and had his own motivations but the overall body of his work was clearly twisted.

The beauty of these Ancient doctrines was duality and its significance to maintaining natural harmonic balance. Ma'at or Zen. The principles of Yin andYang, Set vs Osiris, etc.

Once you start calling on one of those powers and seeking to trample the other...I can't mess you or your work. You are out to cause imbalance anddisharmony.

Originally Posted by HypeBeast McStreetwear

So he was the 1st troll?

 

[Jordan8]

^ Feel that

 

[atlien seeko]

AntonLaVey wrote:

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Originally Posted by ATLien Seeko

AntonLaVey wrote:

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Originally Posted by ATLien Seeko

AntonLaVey wrote:

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Originally Posted by 18th letter

AntonLaVey wrote:

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man why even come in here?

I expected LULz....interesting stuff tho.

You are an interesting man to me. From what I can see from a message board, you seem extremely vulnerable, lost and crying for help.

I'm curious to know what your future will be like...
Would you like to offer any advice on how I could achieve a successful and fulfilling life and future oh wise one? You can start by helping me ace this exam tomorrow.

I shouldn't be that interesting. I am man in its most BASIC form. I take a very simplistic, earthly and humanist view on life. Everyone else is interesting to me.

Cry for help?...why cause I made a thread about being stressed and anxious?

Nah but really if you got any advice, send it over....I need a hug.

I think you really mean that sincerely. And I never saw your post about being stressed and anxious. It's just something I picked up on from dialog throughout various threads.

Also, by no means am I trying to come off as a "wise one", but if that's how people see me, I'm flattered. Even if it's sarcasm, I'd rather come off as attempting to be wise than mindless.

The only advice I could offer you is to try a diferent approach and outlook on life. Reconsider this LaVey guy you look up to so much...

HBD btw.
Your perception of me is clearly skewed by assumptions on 1. My beliefs and 2. Your own self-righteousness


Give you some advice....whenever you see me post keep two things in mind 1. I am very sarcastic ansd satirical 2. My ideas on life are the least bit trivial. To understand them requires one to in essence, come back to earth and the embrace the reality of our existence.

What may this approach be I need to take be? God? spirituality? phantoms?. My reality and needs and your reality are completely different. Although I have a somewhat pessimistic outlook on life and I have no faith in humanity....on a personal level I am doing pretty well for myself. I literally have nothing to complain about.Most people have it way worse than I do, which is why I find humor in Ls or unfortunate events in my life.

Laters, wish me luck.




Regardless of my perceptions, I dont see anything at all wrong with trying a different outlook and preception on life. I have a lot of faith on humanity. Idont understand how I could be a human and NOT have faith in us. People have lost sense in what it is to be human. Our history is so rich and full of substancethat it makes for a future that I can only be optimistic about.

Also, I think your beliefs give me every right to have a certain outlook on you because... They are your beliefs. What more should I go by to build aperspective on a person other than their beliefs? A trench coat? [/sarcasm]

When you say:

To understand them requires one to in essence, come back to earth and the embrace the reality of our existence.
Can you explain what the reality of our existence is to you? What does it mean to you?

 

[airmaxpenny1]

It also seemed like Crowley was extremely anti-emetic and racist though despite his teaching and philosophies being derivatives from non-anglo sources. Thatmight have just been this character you are talking about though.

And Petey Pablo

I remember I bought his first album, listened to that weed plate once or twice.

But thinking about one track I remember my friend putting me onto from his second album, He Spoke to Me

Lyrics:

(yeah..so sweet so sweet)
When he spoke to me,
(his spoken..so sweet so sweet..yeah)
Just the sound of the voice,
When he spoke to me.

-Verse-
Sound of a god, send that chill down my body,
Now i was lifting, i tried to deny the ways i was feeling,
Cos the world had me all messed up controlling my decisions,
Had me at the point where i hated who i was, something had a hold on me, and wouldn't budge at all, i felt myself sinking, until this all, now all i couldsay was 'help me lord', and by god it hurted, i know it hurt because,

When he spoke to me,
(his spoken..so sweet so sweet..yeah)
Just the sound of the voice,
When he spoke to me.

Sound of a god, send that chill down my body,
Now i was lifting,
(shhhhh..wait a minute)
Just when i thought it was over,
(shhhhh..wait a minute)
N'i was bout to through in the towel,
My heart was heavy, with a bird left being a bird in the world and not being able to fly, my heart was heavy.
(so heavy..so heavy)
And if you don't know what i'm talking about then you must be crazy,
(you need to stand up (x6)
God his got windows,
(aint that wit you)
You better stand up (x4).

Spoke to me,
(his spoken..so sweet so sweet..yeah)
Just the sound of the voice,
When he spoke to me.

Sound of a god, send that chill down my body,
Now i was lifting,
I just wanna say (thank you..for everything (x4)
Every little thing, for every little thing,
I just wanna say (thank you..i said thank you(x4)
Everything you've done for me, (everything (x2)
Thank you(x3) i said thank you, thank you(x2)
I just wanna say thank you, thank you(x2)
Everything you did to me, your so wonderful, so beautiful, so...

He spoke to me,
I said thank you(x4)
Just the sound of the voice,
When he spoke to me.

Sound of a god, send that chill down my body,
Now i was lifting,
When he spoke to me,
(his spoken..so sweet so sweet..yeah)
Just the sound of the voice,
(his spoken..so sweet so sweet..yeah)
When he spoke to me.
(his spoken..so sweet so sweet..yeah)
Sound of a god, send that chill down my body,
Now i was lifting
(his spoken..so sweet so sweet..yeah)

No direct mentions of Christianity or Jesus?

Pablo also spent some good years in prison, ain't nothing much in there to do but read...

 

[hueyp in louiev]

^

Had to go peep that track real quick.

Definitely ambiguous and weird lyrics for a supposedly Christian worship song.

 

[gtek]

Originally Posted by quik1987

So where do asians fit in the big picture?

Most of Asia's culture is also due to African decedents as who migrated
seasonally from Africa to Asia, and established the foundation for such things as the
belief system of Buddhism and the appraisal of the serpent (dragon) and even
the rank of a Samurai warrior. Factors that
still strive within culture of Asia today.

 

[gtek]

Funny Timbaland was brought up in this thread....
found my old CD the other day, popped it in and ran across this track...

�

 

[general johnson]

�

 

[infamouserror]

Yo I been on NT since like '00 and real talk, this is one of the illest threads I've seen. Thanks to Huey and everybody else that contributed. Theknowledge being dropped and yall discussions is pretty inspiring. I was already aware of most of the stuff in here but seeing others seek the truth gives mesome hope for the future.

As for the Mos vid -- been a fan since 'Black on Both Sides' so I'm hopin he's just tryin to put us onto all the shenanigans goin on behind thescenes and if that's the case, this is some real epic $@% right here.

 

[general johnson]

Damn Yuku

Speaking on the topic of Satanism and its influence on muse sick, this track used to creep me out when I was younger.




The video looks like Lucifers theme park.

-Pentagram Guitar
-All seeing eyes
-Obelisks
-The Goddess Columbia

And peep the lyrics...

It was on a street so evil
So bad that even hell disowned it
Every single step was trouble
For the fool who stumbled on it
Eyes within the dark were watching
I felt the sudden chill of danger
Something told me keep on walking
Told me I should not have come there

Chorus
Baby, 'cause you cut me like a knife
Without your love in my life
Alone I walk in the night
'Cause I just can't stop this feelin'
It's torture
It's torture
It's torture

She was up a stair to nowhere
A room forever I'll remember
She stared as though I should have known her
Tell me what's your pain or pleasure
Every little thing you find here
Is simply for the thrill you're after
Loneliness or hearts of fire
I am here to serve all masters

She said reality is a knife
When there's no love in your life
And merciful is the night
When you just can't stop this feeling
It's torture
It's torture
It's torture

And I still can't find the meaning, no no no
Of the face I keep on seeing
Was she real or am I dreaming

Did the sound of your name
Turn a wheel, start the flame in me

Baby, 'cause you cut me like a knife
Without your love in my life
Alone I walk in the night
And I just can't stop this feelin'
It's torture
It's torture
It's torture

She said reality is a knife
When there's no love in your life
And merciful is the night
When you just can't stop this feeling
It's torture
It's torture
It's torture

MJ sold his soul early, tried to get it back later and didn't make it out of that fight with his reputationor life...

 

[hueyp in louiev]

Gotta pick this back up tomorrow.

The last couple of posts have been real interesting.

 

[hypebeast mcstreetwear]

^I mean, if there's truth to it...

Basically shows, once you hand it over, you can't get it back. !%%# just don't happen that way

I'm not gonna try to dissect every song/video I hear/see now, but I'll definitely keep my "eye" open.

And most importantly be smart about who/how I carry on this info.

Might rub some people the wrong way. Unfortunately, not everyone's so enthused to being "enlightened".

Whether it's the roots of history that's masked or the symbols in videos/songs.

 

[18key]

Read this entire thread over the course of the day. Some great stuff in here.

 

[his diabolical majesty]

Originally Posted by HueyP in LouieV

Speaking of Jayz, my friend is a huge fan but hates this verse from Empire state of mind.

And Jesus can't save you life starts when the church ends

 

[frankmatthews]

I missed this one... thought it was the xbox thread lol

Another good thread bud, keep it up. I'd say the people out there reading and maybe thinking a little harder as a result of this is worth putting up withthe jokes.

I would give second thought if I was thinking mos def might be speaking on my behalf. He is more than likely not.
I find myself wondering why it is the entertainers that are turned on to this stuff. It's pretty hard to pull the wool over on the broadcast anddistribution monopoly.
They like to keep a pretty tight lid on things that have, historically, been kept under a pretty tight lid.
You definitely don't get hollywood roles and endorsement deals if you are pulling the wool over on the broadcast and distribution monopoly.

What I think (maybe lol) is that these entertainers are the ones being duped. I think they are being shown some things, being turned on to somethings that theynever were aware of and would have never otherwise been aware of had they not been able to gain a captive audience. I think they are being duped the same wayCrowley, Anton Lavey, and pretty much all the New Agers duped their followers into thinking they were worshiping self-god, or nature or some other ego pleasingbs. Lucifer was actually a good guy! Actually, maybe he was. Who knows.

If you can flash a little magic along with your fantastical stories you tend to be a little more believable. However, I don't think these entertainers, oreven those "enlightening" them, know exactly what they are dealing with. I don't think they fully realize the consequences of their actions. Iknow I sure don't. Call me crazy but I just don't feel like following the Golden Dawn is gonna lead a good -willed individual where they wanna go.�

In furtherance of this point, the question i've been struggling with lately is why would the networks/radio stations, i.e. the record companies, i.eviacom, i.e. the global elitle let all the stuff out on the airwaves? If this was elightenment, if this was gonna benefit me, the captive audience, for thebetter, i would imagine it would be tried to be kept under wraps. Enlightened folks don't tend to consume enough goods to maintain this particular powerstructure.

So wait, are they trying to dumb me down or are they trying to enlighten me? For those that have a tendency to be dumb, theres plenty to keep you entertained.For those who tend to seek enlightenment.... Well, they have something for you too. At least this is my current approach to thinking about this issue.

So what is the issue? Alot of you are probablly wondering what the hell i'm ranting about. Were talking about these messages in music videos and pop music.This is nothing new, there has been messages in videos and songs and movies for awhile now. If it were just a few instances I might entertain the idea thatmaybe a few artists were trying slip us some enlightenment past the guards, lol. But it is literally everywhere it seems. I guess it's been this way awhile. They are trying to tell you something. But should you be listening?




For those who haven't checked out this series, you really should. I don't necessarily buy some of the conclusions the narrator of the series comes to.I think there is definitely some mainstream antithesis conspiracy theory bias. It's understandable. But the visuals alone show undeniable similarities intheme and symbology. It crosses all genres.From phil collins to fiona apple to odb


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