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Originally Posted by BeatJunkie5
Michael Bush is officially back with the team today
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Anybody going to the Cardinals game Thursday?
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^ if I get out of work early enough, I'll be going. Can't wait for this season! Got my season tixs in the other day!
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^ if I get out of work early enough, I'll be going. Can't wait for this season! Got my season tixs in the other day!
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Never been in the Raiders thread. Havent followed in a while.
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dope homie
Today's story was on the offensive line, and recently-signed tackle Stephon Heyer has some perspective on Raiders quarterback Jason Campbell. Heyer started 28 games with Campbell at quarterback for the ******** from 2007-09.
"He has gotten better over time," Heyer said. "His pocket presence, his huddle presence, is definitely better than it used to be. It looks like he's more of a leader. He's comfortable. I can see that now more so than ever."
Did Campbell play a role in Heyer coming here?
"I don't know. If he did, I guess I ought to give him some of my money, huh? Not! Not! I don't care about Jason. You don't give Jason nothing."
Heyer has a lot of personality, and may be a nice fit for the good-times household of Khalif Barnes and Shaun Bodiford, who are looking to replace the departed Johnnie Lee Higgins.
^ Heyer on free agency:
"The ******** were dragging their feet. I thought I was going to go back with them. (The Raiders) called me up, said they wanted to work me out and I came out here. I'm looking to go back to work. I'm not waiting for anybody else you know?"
^ On whether he has any history playing guard:
"I played one game at guard against the Tennessee Titans last year. It was a last-ditch effort. We ran out of linemen. We ended up beating them when Vince Young threw his pads in the audience. Sorry Vince. Sorry, but you did that. He did that. I didn't do that."
^ On going against Seymour in practice?
"I hope so. He's a great player. He's going to get me better. I would love to go against all those guys. ... (Sees Samson Satele walking by with his hair down). What the hell? Oh, I thought it was Troy Polamalu. Polamalu! Did you use my Head and Shoulders?"
Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/raiders/index#ixzz1USfCUHj4
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Today's story was on the offensive line, and recently-signed tackle Stephon Heyer has some perspective on Raiders quarterback Jason Campbell. Heyer started 28 games with Campbell at quarterback for the ******** from 2007-09.
"He has gotten better over time," Heyer said. "His pocket presence, his huddle presence, is definitely better than it used to be. It looks like he's more of a leader. He's comfortable. I can see that now more so than ever."
Did Campbell play a role in Heyer coming here?
"I don't know. If he did, I guess I ought to give him some of my money, huh? Not! Not! I don't care about Jason. You don't give Jason nothing."
Heyer has a lot of personality, and may be a nice fit for the good-times household of Khalif Barnes and Shaun Bodiford, who are looking to replace the departed Johnnie Lee Higgins.
^ Heyer on free agency:
"The ******** were dragging their feet. I thought I was going to go back with them. (The Raiders) called me up, said they wanted to work me out and I came out here. I'm looking to go back to work. I'm not waiting for anybody else you know?"
^ On whether he has any history playing guard:
"I played one game at guard against the Tennessee Titans last year. It was a last-ditch effort. We ran out of linemen. We ended up beating them when Vince Young threw his pads in the audience. Sorry Vince. Sorry, but you did that. He did that. I didn't do that."
^ On going against Seymour in practice?
"I hope so. He's a great player. He's going to get me better. I would love to go against all those guys. ... (Sees Samson Satele walking by with his hair down). What the hell? Oh, I thought it was Troy Polamalu. Polamalu! Did you use my Head and Shoulders?"
Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/raiders/index#ixzz1USfCUHj4
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How much were your season tickets, Big?
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How much were your season tickets, Big?
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Originally Posted by B0SsTyCoON
Originally Posted by AJIIIpLATINum
BOSS is SIGNED...Thanks AL
TE Depth Chart Boss/Myers/Ausberry/Gordon
...The Autumn Wind is a Pirate
pLATINum...what do you think of the Raiders right now and where do you think we're headed? I'm from Oakland and I've died with this team for many years
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Originally Posted by B0SsTyCoON
Originally Posted by AJIIIpLATINum
BOSS is SIGNED...Thanks AL
TE Depth Chart Boss/Myers/Ausberry/Gordon
...The Autumn Wind is a Pirate
pLATINum...what do you think of the Raiders right now and where do you think we're headed? I'm from Oakland and I've died with this team for many years
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Some training camp pics
Defense keeps looking like the troopers in BattleStar Galactica
Defense keeps looking like the troopers in BattleStar Galactica
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Defense keeps looking like the troopers in BattleStar Galactica
Defense keeps looking like the troopers in BattleStar Galactica
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Damn, Ro is a big dude. Keep hearing about him poppin guys in practice and them takin offense. Particularly Rock Cartwright. Hope he saves some for the the other teams small guys. Poor Amendola and Sproles.
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Damn, Ro is a big dude. Keep hearing about him poppin guys in practice and them takin offense. Particularly Rock Cartwright. Hope he saves some for the the other teams small guys. Poor Amendola and Sproles.
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Any news on how Derek Hagan is doing?
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Originally Posted by damnitzdom
Any news on how Derek Hagan is doing?
I heard he been tearing up the practices with all the injuries to our other WR's
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Originally Posted by damnitzdom
Any news on how Derek Hagan is doing?
I heard he been tearing up the practices with all the injuries to our other WR's
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No your eyes are not deceiving you; Darrius Heyward-Bey actually practiced and it sounds like he looked like a legit NFL receiver. I say it sounds because that is all I have to work with. It was a lot more fun when I could report on the Oakland Raiders training camp based on my own notes, but I have once again been reduced to reporting on what the eyes of others picked up on. So all the information I am about to pass on comes from the excellent notes and reporting of Vittorio Tafur, Jerry McDonald and Steve Corkran.
Let's start off with the enigma that is the "-." DHB made it on to the practice field in a game type situation for the first time this training camp. Why he was out is anyone's guess. DHB was targeted five times when someone was guarding him. He got four and dropped one. Chris Johnson did manage to knock one out of his hands after he caught it. That is not surprising. DHB has not had a lot of practice tucking the ball after a catch. If he plans on catching the ball with any regularity he may want to practice this skill.
As long as his undisclosed injury stiffens up then he is likely going to start in the preseason opener on Thursday. And that means that the likely starting receivers will be the brothers enigma: Chaz Schilens and DHB.
Hue Jackson hasn't said how long he plans on playing his starters, but I wouldn't expect either of these guys to get too many reps, and that is just fine with me—especially with Chaz. Just keep him healthy. I'm more concerned with seeing him start in Week One than what he can do in the preseason.
Besides the need to keep these guys healthy, Hue has to judge the rest of the receivers to see what he has. One guy I expect to get a lot of action is the recently acquired Derek Hagan. Hagan was reportedly solid in just his second practice with the Raiders. His precise route running stood out at practice, and that is something the Raiders sorely need.
The Raiders will likely keep six receivers. The odds are the Louis Murphy, DHB, Schilens, Jacoby Ford and Denarius Moore have their spots on the roster. That leaves Hagan, Nick Miller, Shaun Bodiford and Chad Jackson to battle it out for the final spot.
While it certainly seems that Hagan has the inside track here, punt returning may give the edge to Miller. The Raiders have tried Moore out at punt returner in practice, but he has struggled. Taiwan Jones may be an option, but he will have to get healthy and back on the practice field before the Raiders are comfortable sticking him back there. Bodiford has also gotten reps at punt return in practice.
Jump over for some bullet points....
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Samson Satele and Stefen Wisniewski continue to split reps at center, and Wisniewski also is getting time at LG. I am still hoping the Raiders just decide to give the center position to Satele and let Wiz wrestle away the starting LG spot from the underwhelming Daniel Loper.
Some have been quick to assume that Wiz would replace Carlisle at RG, but I am happy to see him on the left. Carlisle brings more to the table than Loper—he is excellent on the second level—and Wiz comes off as a better bull-dozing LG than a right guard who is asked to pull more.
It was mentioned that Wiz and Boller had a fumbled exchange, and I guess that Action Jackson was none too pleased. I am assuming this was done when Boller was under center. It is worth noting that Wiz struggled a bit with the shotgun snap while I was watching practices.
Khalif Barnes seems to have a firm grip on the right tackle spot. There is still plenty of time for Joe Barksdale to usurp Barnes, but it sounds like this is what he will have to do. It also seems as if they are content on keeping Stephon Heyer as the backup left tackle.
Denarius Moore continues to shine. He had a drop at practice, but reportedly bounced back strong. And you better believe his teammates are taking notice. Here is DHB on Moore: "Denarius, that's a ball player right there, smooth. We just call him 'Smooth.' Doesn't look like he's going fast, but he's catching everything,"
"Smooth" it's not a horrible nickname.
Jason Campbell is having a solid camp. Just ask Al Saunders: "I think everyone has been impressed by Jason—he's had an outstanding camp." And while QBs don't usually see big jumps in production at Jason's stage in his career, the revolving door of systems he has been through leaves the door open that his comfort level with this system could lead to improved results. Former and now current teammate Heyer has taken notice. Heyer: "His pocket presence, his huddle presence, is definitely better than it used to be. It looks like he's more of a leader. He's more comfortable. I can see that now more than ever."
Maybe the most promising sign of Campbell and the passing game comes from this Jerry McDonald tweet: " Passing game upgraded last year, but even moreso this year in terms of scheme, philosophy."
Of course the other side of this is that they are beating the DBs. And to that end, I am getting a little nervous. DVD is struggling a bit in practice. Chekwa has been out. McFadden and Ware have not caught anyone's attention. Sterling Moore has made some plays, but he still has his work cut out for him to make the roster. Nickel and dime sets are a bit of a concern, and I don't even want to think about injuries.
I am still hoping that the Raiders will sign former Colt, Kelvin Hayden. They were reported to have interest in him. On Monday he was visiting with the Bears.
Michael Bush is reportedly in great shape and running hard. The defensive players had been greeting running backs with a pretty good whack (just ask Taiwan Jones) but when Bush gets there they are content with more of a two-hand touch approach.
Let's start off with the enigma that is the "-." DHB made it on to the practice field in a game type situation for the first time this training camp. Why he was out is anyone's guess. DHB was targeted five times when someone was guarding him. He got four and dropped one. Chris Johnson did manage to knock one out of his hands after he caught it. That is not surprising. DHB has not had a lot of practice tucking the ball after a catch. If he plans on catching the ball with any regularity he may want to practice this skill.
As long as his undisclosed injury stiffens up then he is likely going to start in the preseason opener on Thursday. And that means that the likely starting receivers will be the brothers enigma: Chaz Schilens and DHB.
Hue Jackson hasn't said how long he plans on playing his starters, but I wouldn't expect either of these guys to get too many reps, and that is just fine with me—especially with Chaz. Just keep him healthy. I'm more concerned with seeing him start in Week One than what he can do in the preseason.
Besides the need to keep these guys healthy, Hue has to judge the rest of the receivers to see what he has. One guy I expect to get a lot of action is the recently acquired Derek Hagan. Hagan was reportedly solid in just his second practice with the Raiders. His precise route running stood out at practice, and that is something the Raiders sorely need.
The Raiders will likely keep six receivers. The odds are the Louis Murphy, DHB, Schilens, Jacoby Ford and Denarius Moore have their spots on the roster. That leaves Hagan, Nick Miller, Shaun Bodiford and Chad Jackson to battle it out for the final spot.
While it certainly seems that Hagan has the inside track here, punt returning may give the edge to Miller. The Raiders have tried Moore out at punt returner in practice, but he has struggled. Taiwan Jones may be an option, but he will have to get healthy and back on the practice field before the Raiders are comfortable sticking him back there. Bodiford has also gotten reps at punt return in practice.
Jump over for some bullet points....
Star-divide
Samson Satele and Stefen Wisniewski continue to split reps at center, and Wisniewski also is getting time at LG. I am still hoping the Raiders just decide to give the center position to Satele and let Wiz wrestle away the starting LG spot from the underwhelming Daniel Loper.
Some have been quick to assume that Wiz would replace Carlisle at RG, but I am happy to see him on the left. Carlisle brings more to the table than Loper—he is excellent on the second level—and Wiz comes off as a better bull-dozing LG than a right guard who is asked to pull more.
It was mentioned that Wiz and Boller had a fumbled exchange, and I guess that Action Jackson was none too pleased. I am assuming this was done when Boller was under center. It is worth noting that Wiz struggled a bit with the shotgun snap while I was watching practices.
Khalif Barnes seems to have a firm grip on the right tackle spot. There is still plenty of time for Joe Barksdale to usurp Barnes, but it sounds like this is what he will have to do. It also seems as if they are content on keeping Stephon Heyer as the backup left tackle.
Denarius Moore continues to shine. He had a drop at practice, but reportedly bounced back strong. And you better believe his teammates are taking notice. Here is DHB on Moore: "Denarius, that's a ball player right there, smooth. We just call him 'Smooth.' Doesn't look like he's going fast, but he's catching everything,"
"Smooth" it's not a horrible nickname.
Jason Campbell is having a solid camp. Just ask Al Saunders: "I think everyone has been impressed by Jason—he's had an outstanding camp." And while QBs don't usually see big jumps in production at Jason's stage in his career, the revolving door of systems he has been through leaves the door open that his comfort level with this system could lead to improved results. Former and now current teammate Heyer has taken notice. Heyer: "His pocket presence, his huddle presence, is definitely better than it used to be. It looks like he's more of a leader. He's more comfortable. I can see that now more than ever."
Maybe the most promising sign of Campbell and the passing game comes from this Jerry McDonald tweet: " Passing game upgraded last year, but even moreso this year in terms of scheme, philosophy."
Of course the other side of this is that they are beating the DBs. And to that end, I am getting a little nervous. DVD is struggling a bit in practice. Chekwa has been out. McFadden and Ware have not caught anyone's attention. Sterling Moore has made some plays, but he still has his work cut out for him to make the roster. Nickel and dime sets are a bit of a concern, and I don't even want to think about injuries.
I am still hoping that the Raiders will sign former Colt, Kelvin Hayden. They were reported to have interest in him. On Monday he was visiting with the Bears.
Michael Bush is reportedly in great shape and running hard. The defensive players had been greeting running backs with a pretty good whack (just ask Taiwan Jones) but when Bush gets there they are content with more of a two-hand touch approach.
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No your eyes are not deceiving you; Darrius Heyward-Bey actually practiced and it sounds like he looked like a legit NFL receiver. I say it sounds because that is all I have to work with. It was a lot more fun when I could report on the Oakland Raiders training camp based on my own notes, but I have once again been reduced to reporting on what the eyes of others picked up on. So all the information I am about to pass on comes from the excellent notes and reporting of Vittorio Tafur, Jerry McDonald and Steve Corkran.
Let's start off with the enigma that is the "-." DHB made it on to the practice field in a game type situation for the first time this training camp. Why he was out is anyone's guess. DHB was targeted five times when someone was guarding him. He got four and dropped one. Chris Johnson did manage to knock one out of his hands after he caught it. That is not surprising. DHB has not had a lot of practice tucking the ball after a catch. If he plans on catching the ball with any regularity he may want to practice this skill.
As long as his undisclosed injury stiffens up then he is likely going to start in the preseason opener on Thursday. And that means that the likely starting receivers will be the brothers enigma: Chaz Schilens and DHB.
Hue Jackson hasn't said how long he plans on playing his starters, but I wouldn't expect either of these guys to get too many reps, and that is just fine with me—especially with Chaz. Just keep him healthy. I'm more concerned with seeing him start in Week One than what he can do in the preseason.
Besides the need to keep these guys healthy, Hue has to judge the rest of the receivers to see what he has. One guy I expect to get a lot of action is the recently acquired Derek Hagan. Hagan was reportedly solid in just his second practice with the Raiders. His precise route running stood out at practice, and that is something the Raiders sorely need.
The Raiders will likely keep six receivers. The odds are the Louis Murphy, DHB, Schilens, Jacoby Ford and Denarius Moore have their spots on the roster. That leaves Hagan, Nick Miller, Shaun Bodiford and Chad Jackson to battle it out for the final spot.
While it certainly seems that Hagan has the inside track here, punt returning may give the edge to Miller. The Raiders have tried Moore out at punt returner in practice, but he has struggled. Taiwan Jones may be an option, but he will have to get healthy and back on the practice field before the Raiders are comfortable sticking him back there. Bodiford has also gotten reps at punt return in practice.
Jump over for some bullet points....
Star-divide
Samson Satele and Stefen Wisniewski continue to split reps at center, and Wisniewski also is getting time at LG. I am still hoping the Raiders just decide to give the center position to Satele and let Wiz wrestle away the starting LG spot from the underwhelming Daniel Loper.
Some have been quick to assume that Wiz would replace Carlisle at RG, but I am happy to see him on the left. Carlisle brings more to the table than Loper—he is excellent on the second level—and Wiz comes off as a better bull-dozing LG than a right guard who is asked to pull more.
It was mentioned that Wiz and Boller had a fumbled exchange, and I guess that Action Jackson was none too pleased. I am assuming this was done when Boller was under center. It is worth noting that Wiz struggled a bit with the shotgun snap while I was watching practices.
Khalif Barnes seems to have a firm grip on the right tackle spot. There is still plenty of time for Joe Barksdale to usurp Barnes, but it sounds like this is what he will have to do. It also seems as if they are content on keeping Stephon Heyer as the backup left tackle.
Denarius Moore continues to shine. He had a drop at practice, but reportedly bounced back strong. And you better believe his teammates are taking notice. Here is DHB on Moore: "Denarius, that's a ball player right there, smooth. We just call him 'Smooth.' Doesn't look like he's going fast, but he's catching everything,"
"Smooth" it's not a horrible nickname.
Jason Campbell is having a solid camp. Just ask Al Saunders: "I think everyone has been impressed by Jason—he's had an outstanding camp." And while QBs don't usually see big jumps in production at Jason's stage in his career, the revolving door of systems he has been through leaves the door open that his comfort level with this system could lead to improved results. Former and now current teammate Heyer has taken notice. Heyer: "His pocket presence, his huddle presence, is definitely better than it used to be. It looks like he's more of a leader. He's more comfortable. I can see that now more than ever."
Maybe the most promising sign of Campbell and the passing game comes from this Jerry McDonald tweet: " Passing game upgraded last year, but even moreso this year in terms of scheme, philosophy."
Of course the other side of this is that they are beating the DBs. And to that end, I am getting a little nervous. DVD is struggling a bit in practice. Chekwa has been out. McFadden and Ware have not caught anyone's attention. Sterling Moore has made some plays, but he still has his work cut out for him to make the roster. Nickel and dime sets are a bit of a concern, and I don't even want to think about injuries.
I am still hoping that the Raiders will sign former Colt, Kelvin Hayden. They were reported to have interest in him. On Monday he was visiting with the Bears.
Michael Bush is reportedly in great shape and running hard. The defensive players had been greeting running backs with a pretty good whack (just ask Taiwan Jones) but when Bush gets there they are content with more of a two-hand touch approach.
Let's start off with the enigma that is the "-." DHB made it on to the practice field in a game type situation for the first time this training camp. Why he was out is anyone's guess. DHB was targeted five times when someone was guarding him. He got four and dropped one. Chris Johnson did manage to knock one out of his hands after he caught it. That is not surprising. DHB has not had a lot of practice tucking the ball after a catch. If he plans on catching the ball with any regularity he may want to practice this skill.
As long as his undisclosed injury stiffens up then he is likely going to start in the preseason opener on Thursday. And that means that the likely starting receivers will be the brothers enigma: Chaz Schilens and DHB.
Hue Jackson hasn't said how long he plans on playing his starters, but I wouldn't expect either of these guys to get too many reps, and that is just fine with me—especially with Chaz. Just keep him healthy. I'm more concerned with seeing him start in Week One than what he can do in the preseason.
Besides the need to keep these guys healthy, Hue has to judge the rest of the receivers to see what he has. One guy I expect to get a lot of action is the recently acquired Derek Hagan. Hagan was reportedly solid in just his second practice with the Raiders. His precise route running stood out at practice, and that is something the Raiders sorely need.
The Raiders will likely keep six receivers. The odds are the Louis Murphy, DHB, Schilens, Jacoby Ford and Denarius Moore have their spots on the roster. That leaves Hagan, Nick Miller, Shaun Bodiford and Chad Jackson to battle it out for the final spot.
While it certainly seems that Hagan has the inside track here, punt returning may give the edge to Miller. The Raiders have tried Moore out at punt returner in practice, but he has struggled. Taiwan Jones may be an option, but he will have to get healthy and back on the practice field before the Raiders are comfortable sticking him back there. Bodiford has also gotten reps at punt return in practice.
Jump over for some bullet points....
Star-divide
Samson Satele and Stefen Wisniewski continue to split reps at center, and Wisniewski also is getting time at LG. I am still hoping the Raiders just decide to give the center position to Satele and let Wiz wrestle away the starting LG spot from the underwhelming Daniel Loper.
Some have been quick to assume that Wiz would replace Carlisle at RG, but I am happy to see him on the left. Carlisle brings more to the table than Loper—he is excellent on the second level—and Wiz comes off as a better bull-dozing LG than a right guard who is asked to pull more.
It was mentioned that Wiz and Boller had a fumbled exchange, and I guess that Action Jackson was none too pleased. I am assuming this was done when Boller was under center. It is worth noting that Wiz struggled a bit with the shotgun snap while I was watching practices.
Khalif Barnes seems to have a firm grip on the right tackle spot. There is still plenty of time for Joe Barksdale to usurp Barnes, but it sounds like this is what he will have to do. It also seems as if they are content on keeping Stephon Heyer as the backup left tackle.
Denarius Moore continues to shine. He had a drop at practice, but reportedly bounced back strong. And you better believe his teammates are taking notice. Here is DHB on Moore: "Denarius, that's a ball player right there, smooth. We just call him 'Smooth.' Doesn't look like he's going fast, but he's catching everything,"
"Smooth" it's not a horrible nickname.
Jason Campbell is having a solid camp. Just ask Al Saunders: "I think everyone has been impressed by Jason—he's had an outstanding camp." And while QBs don't usually see big jumps in production at Jason's stage in his career, the revolving door of systems he has been through leaves the door open that his comfort level with this system could lead to improved results. Former and now current teammate Heyer has taken notice. Heyer: "His pocket presence, his huddle presence, is definitely better than it used to be. It looks like he's more of a leader. He's more comfortable. I can see that now more than ever."
Maybe the most promising sign of Campbell and the passing game comes from this Jerry McDonald tweet: " Passing game upgraded last year, but even moreso this year in terms of scheme, philosophy."
Of course the other side of this is that they are beating the DBs. And to that end, I am getting a little nervous. DVD is struggling a bit in practice. Chekwa has been out. McFadden and Ware have not caught anyone's attention. Sterling Moore has made some plays, but he still has his work cut out for him to make the roster. Nickel and dime sets are a bit of a concern, and I don't even want to think about injuries.
I am still hoping that the Raiders will sign former Colt, Kelvin Hayden. They were reported to have interest in him. On Monday he was visiting with the Bears.
Michael Bush is reportedly in great shape and running hard. The defensive players had been greeting running backs with a pretty good whack (just ask Taiwan Jones) but when Bush gets there they are content with more of a two-hand touch approach.
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