**Official 2010 NY knicks pre-season thread** 10/6 vs T-wolves (PARIS) 2PM MSG/NBA TV

January might be a brutal month for us.


National TV Schedule
Nov. 4at Chicago TNT8:00 p.m.
Nov. 14vs. Houston NBATV7:30 p.m.
Dec. 15vs. Boston ESPN7:00 p.m.
Dec. 17vs. Miami ESPN7:00 p.m.
Dec. 25vs. Chicago ESPN 12:00 p.m.
Dec. 30at Orlando TNT 7:00 p.m.
Jan. 7at Phoenix ESPN 10:30 p.m.
Jan. 24vs. Washington NBATV7:30 p.m.
Jan. 27vs. Miami TNT8:00 p.m.
Feb. 9vs. L.A. Clippers NBATV7:30 p.m.
Feb. 11vs. L.A. LakersESPN8:00 p.m.
Feb. 27at Miami ESPN8:00 p.m.
Mar. 9at Memphis NBATV8:00 p.m.
Mar. 17vs. MemphisNBATV7:30 p.m.
Mar. 21vs. Boston NBATV7:30 p.m.
Mar. 23vs. Orlando ESPN8:00 p.m.
Mar. 26at Charlotte NBATV7:00 p.m.
Apr. 12vs. ChicagoTNT8:00 p.m.

Hopefully I'll be able to make it to the game in Orlando on December 30th, a friend has season tickets I think... if not I'll just get them myself.
 
13-7 to end November.

Thats off teams that we should beat, not from beat above average teams.. So we should have a good start
 
13-7 to end November.

Thats off teams that we should beat, not from beat above average teams.. So we should have a good start
 
April looks like an easy month.. Mid December to the end of January will be tough






[h1]David Lee Doesn't See Isiah As GM[/h1]
Aug 10, 2010 3:52 PM EST

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Warriors forward David Lee was "really surprised" to hear the Knicks had re-hired Isiah Thomas.

"Whether right or wrong, Isiah was cast as the person that was the reason things went downhill in the last six or seven years," said Lee. "Now to bring that back is something I didn't expect."

Lee, a former Knick, was drafted by Thomas in 2005. He admits that he "liked" Thomas as a coach, although he wasn't as sold on his general managing skills.

"Do I think he's a bad guy? No. Do I think he means well? Yes," Lee said. "But I don't think the execution was always there.

"I absolutely respect him as a basketball mind. He knows his X's and O's and he has a great approach to the game. I don't think too many people would question that, especially from a coaching standpoint.

"I don't know as an administrator how good he is."
 
April looks like an easy month.. Mid December to the end of January will be tough






[h1]David Lee Doesn't See Isiah As GM[/h1]
Aug 10, 2010 3:52 PM EST

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Warriors forward David Lee was "really surprised" to hear the Knicks had re-hired Isiah Thomas.

"Whether right or wrong, Isiah was cast as the person that was the reason things went downhill in the last six or seven years," said Lee. "Now to bring that back is something I didn't expect."

Lee, a former Knick, was drafted by Thomas in 2005. He admits that he "liked" Thomas as a coach, although he wasn't as sold on his general managing skills.

"Do I think he's a bad guy? No. Do I think he means well? Yes," Lee said. "But I don't think the execution was always there.

"I absolutely respect him as a basketball mind. He knows his X's and O's and he has a great approach to the game. I don't think too many people would question that, especially from a coaching standpoint.

"I don't know as an administrator how good he is."
 
[h2]Mike D'Antoni OK with Isiah Thomas[/h2]Associated Press

NEW YORK -- Mike D'Antoni sounds OK with it. Mike Krzyzewski wouldn't do it.

Isiah Thomas' return to the New York Knicks as a consultant while still coaching a college team has raised plenty of questions -- starting with whether it's even legal.

D'Antoni, who became the Knicks' coach after Thomas was fired two years ago, said Tuesday his predecessor could provide an advantage for the organization and he supported bringing him back on as long as team president Donnie Walsh approved.

"I'm sure that Isiah has a lot to offer. Donnie will call on if he needs it and be in consult," D'Antoni said.

Thomas had a similar role after he was fired as general manager and coach in 2008. However, he has since become coach of Florida International, which is where the conflict could arise.

Krzyzewski, the Hall of Fame coach of Duke and the U.S. national team, would decline a similar position because he believes college and NBA jobs should be separate.

"I would decline to do that just because I shouldn't be perceived to have an advantage in whatever way over another college coach, so that's why I wouldn't to do it," he said after the Americans practiced. "I don't think there's anything ethically wrong with it or whatever, I just think that it's probably better to keep it separate."

The NBA is reviewing the agreement to see if it violates league rules, which prevent team officials from having contact with players who aren't yet eligible for the draft.

"Have we served as consultants to the pros? Yeah," Krzyzewski said. "People call us before the draft, 'What do think of this, what do you think of that?' I think it's better to have it like that."

The Knicks have taken a beating since announcing Thomas' return Friday by people who recall how badly his tenure at Madison Square Garden was. Thomas started as team president in December 2003, and the Knicks never won a playoff game under his watch despite always having one of the league's highest payrolls.

Plus, a sexual harassment lawsuit brought against Thomas and the organization by former team employee Anucha Browne Sanders also cost MSG $11.6 million.

But Thomas still has a good reputation among younger NBA players who remember his Hall of Fame playing career in Detroit. The Knicks think that can help them, and even called upon Thomas in their recruitment of LeBron James.

"Donnie is very smart to be able to tap into it when he needs it, and if it's an advantage to the Knicks then we'll use it," D'Antoni said.

But D'Antoni, who was coaching Phoenix during Thomas' tenure in New York, understands why many are so confused by the Knicks' decision to bring Thomas back. There have been reports that Walsh was against the move, and speculation that Thomas will eventually get a bigger role in the organization -- perhaps even his old one.

"The only thing is, it does get a life of its own and it's not going to change what Donnie does, what he has done and how good he has done it," D'Antoni said. "And again, if it can help us, which I think in certain areas it can, then we will use that and so there's no negatives to it other than it created a story with [the media]."
 
[h2]Mike D'Antoni OK with Isiah Thomas[/h2]Associated Press

NEW YORK -- Mike D'Antoni sounds OK with it. Mike Krzyzewski wouldn't do it.

Isiah Thomas' return to the New York Knicks as a consultant while still coaching a college team has raised plenty of questions -- starting with whether it's even legal.

D'Antoni, who became the Knicks' coach after Thomas was fired two years ago, said Tuesday his predecessor could provide an advantage for the organization and he supported bringing him back on as long as team president Donnie Walsh approved.

"I'm sure that Isiah has a lot to offer. Donnie will call on if he needs it and be in consult," D'Antoni said.

Thomas had a similar role after he was fired as general manager and coach in 2008. However, he has since become coach of Florida International, which is where the conflict could arise.

Krzyzewski, the Hall of Fame coach of Duke and the U.S. national team, would decline a similar position because he believes college and NBA jobs should be separate.

"I would decline to do that just because I shouldn't be perceived to have an advantage in whatever way over another college coach, so that's why I wouldn't to do it," he said after the Americans practiced. "I don't think there's anything ethically wrong with it or whatever, I just think that it's probably better to keep it separate."

The NBA is reviewing the agreement to see if it violates league rules, which prevent team officials from having contact with players who aren't yet eligible for the draft.

"Have we served as consultants to the pros? Yeah," Krzyzewski said. "People call us before the draft, 'What do think of this, what do you think of that?' I think it's better to have it like that."

The Knicks have taken a beating since announcing Thomas' return Friday by people who recall how badly his tenure at Madison Square Garden was. Thomas started as team president in December 2003, and the Knicks never won a playoff game under his watch despite always having one of the league's highest payrolls.

Plus, a sexual harassment lawsuit brought against Thomas and the organization by former team employee Anucha Browne Sanders also cost MSG $11.6 million.

But Thomas still has a good reputation among younger NBA players who remember his Hall of Fame playing career in Detroit. The Knicks think that can help them, and even called upon Thomas in their recruitment of LeBron James.

"Donnie is very smart to be able to tap into it when he needs it, and if it's an advantage to the Knicks then we'll use it," D'Antoni said.

But D'Antoni, who was coaching Phoenix during Thomas' tenure in New York, understands why many are so confused by the Knicks' decision to bring Thomas back. There have been reports that Walsh was against the move, and speculation that Thomas will eventually get a bigger role in the organization -- perhaps even his old one.

"The only thing is, it does get a life of its own and it's not going to change what Donnie does, what he has done and how good he has done it," D'Antoni said. "And again, if it can help us, which I think in certain areas it can, then we will use that and so there's no negatives to it other than it created a story with [the media]."
 
That'd be some %%%@ to see a GM hired or Thomas just for Allan Houston to succeed Donnie and be that person's boss
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EDIT - Wrong post I'm replying to but still on topic.
 
That'd be some %%%@ to see a GM hired or Thomas just for Allan Houston to succeed Donnie and be that person's boss
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EDIT - Wrong post I'm replying to but still on topic.
 
[h2]Candidates selling Melo in pursuit of Knicks job[/h2]
Posted on: August 10, 2010 7:02 pm

NEW YORK -- We're barely a month removed from the biggest free-agentfeeding frenzy in NBA history, and already the next wave has begun.

The Knicks'controversial attempt to hire Isiah Thomas as a consultant hasn'tdissuaded candidates from pitching themselves as the right man for ajob that team president Donnie Walsh has left vacant since he was hiredtwo years ago -- a day-to-day GM who eventually would succeed him. Thelatest twist, according to sources familiar with the situation, haspotential candidates angling to present themselves to Walsh and Gardenchairman James Dolan as the man who is capable of delivering Carmelo Anthony as a free agent next summer.

The overtures have fallen on deaf ears with Walsh for two reasons,sources say: 1) Walsh has yet to receive clearance to hire a generalmanager to handle the day-to-day basketball operations, and 2) Therespected, 69-year-old executive has grown tired of the free-agentrecruitment game and the dishonest pitches that invariably come with it.

Walsh's desire to decompress from the untoward free-agent hysteria,however, didn't stop Dolan from hiring Thomas -- who was ousted andreplaced by Walsh and coach Mike D'Antoni in 2008 -- as a consultantwhose primary duty will be to recruit free agents. Sources say thehiring may very well be struck down by the NBA, which has strict rulesagainst team employees having contact with high school, college andinternational players not yet eligible for the NBA draft.

Thomas positioned himself to return to the Knicks by convincing Dolanthat he played an important role in the team landing free-agent powerforward Amar'e Stoudemire this summer. The Knicks struck out on LeBron James and Dwyane Wade and decided they needed someone with Thomas' clout to ensure it wouldn't happen again.

But Thomas isn't the only current or former NBA executive trying totout himself as the man who can persuade Anthony, a free agent nextsummer, to join Stoudemire with the Knicks. Part of that strategy,sources say, includes efforts on the part of at least one candidate topitch himself to Creative Artists Agency -- the firm that representsAnthony -- as an addition to the Knicks' front office who could bringAnthony with him.

Walsh has had it on the back burner for sometime to hire a lead assistant with a big enough profile -- andsubstantial enough resume -- to replace him when he retires. Such amove would create a rare spasm of continuity for an organization thathad known nothing but change and turmoil prior to Walsh's hiring twoyears ago. Strong indications within the organization this summer havepointed to former player Allan Houston being groomed as Walsh'ssuccessor. Houston impressed Dolan and other team officials with hisperformance in an expanded role during the free-agency period thissummer.

Walsh is two years into a four-year contract, and theKnicks must decide by March 31, 2011 whether to guarantee the finalyear of the deal.

Anthony, an ideal fit for the Knicks,already has told confidants this summer that he's eager to exploreplaying in New York. His dilemma is whether to turn down a three-year,$65 million extension offer from the Nuggetswith only 10 months left in the current collective bargainingagreement. The new deal is expected to be much less lucrative forplayers. Sources say owners who were rattled by this summer'sfree-agent frenzy -- orchestrated by CAA, which represented James, Wadeand Chris Bosh -- are determined to clamp down not only on player salaries in the new agreement, but also player movement.

Anthony's desire to play in New York is so strong, sources say, thatthose close to the three-time All-Star have scoffed at the efforts ofexecutives touting themselves as being able to deliver him.

"Carmelo already wants to play in New York," one person with knowledgeof his plans told CBSSports.com. "He doesn't need anybody to bring himthere. He's a gunslinger. That situation is perfect for him."

Anthony's teammate, Chauncey Billups,said after Team USA practice Tuesday that he still doesn't know whetherAnthony will sign the extension or test the free-agent waters nextsummer.

"If I was a betting man? I don’t know," Billupssaid. "Of course, I'm biased because I'm playing on the team thathe’s playing on. But I'm optimistic that he’s going to comeback and play for the Nuggets. I know he loves the city. Shoot,he’s been there since he was 20 years old. So I'm optimistic, butI don’t know. I wish I did, but I don’t."


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[h2]Candidates selling Melo in pursuit of Knicks job[/h2]
Posted on: August 10, 2010 7:02 pm

NEW YORK -- We're barely a month removed from the biggest free-agentfeeding frenzy in NBA history, and already the next wave has begun.

The Knicks'controversial attempt to hire Isiah Thomas as a consultant hasn'tdissuaded candidates from pitching themselves as the right man for ajob that team president Donnie Walsh has left vacant since he was hiredtwo years ago -- a day-to-day GM who eventually would succeed him. Thelatest twist, according to sources familiar with the situation, haspotential candidates angling to present themselves to Walsh and Gardenchairman James Dolan as the man who is capable of delivering Carmelo Anthony as a free agent next summer.

The overtures have fallen on deaf ears with Walsh for two reasons,sources say: 1) Walsh has yet to receive clearance to hire a generalmanager to handle the day-to-day basketball operations, and 2) Therespected, 69-year-old executive has grown tired of the free-agentrecruitment game and the dishonest pitches that invariably come with it.

Walsh's desire to decompress from the untoward free-agent hysteria,however, didn't stop Dolan from hiring Thomas -- who was ousted andreplaced by Walsh and coach Mike D'Antoni in 2008 -- as a consultantwhose primary duty will be to recruit free agents. Sources say thehiring may very well be struck down by the NBA, which has strict rulesagainst team employees having contact with high school, college andinternational players not yet eligible for the NBA draft.

Thomas positioned himself to return to the Knicks by convincing Dolanthat he played an important role in the team landing free-agent powerforward Amar'e Stoudemire this summer. The Knicks struck out on LeBron James and Dwyane Wade and decided they needed someone with Thomas' clout to ensure it wouldn't happen again.

But Thomas isn't the only current or former NBA executive trying totout himself as the man who can persuade Anthony, a free agent nextsummer, to join Stoudemire with the Knicks. Part of that strategy,sources say, includes efforts on the part of at least one candidate topitch himself to Creative Artists Agency -- the firm that representsAnthony -- as an addition to the Knicks' front office who could bringAnthony with him.

Walsh has had it on the back burner for sometime to hire a lead assistant with a big enough profile -- andsubstantial enough resume -- to replace him when he retires. Such amove would create a rare spasm of continuity for an organization thathad known nothing but change and turmoil prior to Walsh's hiring twoyears ago. Strong indications within the organization this summer havepointed to former player Allan Houston being groomed as Walsh'ssuccessor. Houston impressed Dolan and other team officials with hisperformance in an expanded role during the free-agency period thissummer.

Walsh is two years into a four-year contract, and theKnicks must decide by March 31, 2011 whether to guarantee the finalyear of the deal.

Anthony, an ideal fit for the Knicks,already has told confidants this summer that he's eager to exploreplaying in New York. His dilemma is whether to turn down a three-year,$65 million extension offer from the Nuggetswith only 10 months left in the current collective bargainingagreement. The new deal is expected to be much less lucrative forplayers. Sources say owners who were rattled by this summer'sfree-agent frenzy -- orchestrated by CAA, which represented James, Wadeand Chris Bosh -- are determined to clamp down not only on player salaries in the new agreement, but also player movement.

Anthony's desire to play in New York is so strong, sources say, thatthose close to the three-time All-Star have scoffed at the efforts ofexecutives touting themselves as being able to deliver him.

"Carmelo already wants to play in New York," one person with knowledgeof his plans told CBSSports.com. "He doesn't need anybody to bring himthere. He's a gunslinger. That situation is perfect for him."

Anthony's teammate, Chauncey Billups,said after Team USA practice Tuesday that he still doesn't know whetherAnthony will sign the extension or test the free-agent waters nextsummer.

"If I was a betting man? I don’t know," Billupssaid. "Of course, I'm biased because I'm playing on the team thathe’s playing on. But I'm optimistic that he’s going to comeback and play for the Nuggets. I know he loves the city. Shoot,he’s been there since he was 20 years old. So I'm optimistic, butI don’t know. I wish I did, but I don’t."


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