Official 2012 NBA Trade Deadline Thread: The Dwightmare is Over.

[dior paint]

Originally Posted by DoubleJs07

Wizards forum on RealGM is trying to figure out a way to land Melo...

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

I'm sorry...but regardless of how I feel about Melo...the franchise would need a shot in the arm like that. He wouldn't have to lead the team to a championship. Get us to Atlanta Hawks level where we're consistently 4-5 seed every year and at least the 2nd round and I'm satisfied in the short term. 
I can live with Melo taking 20 awful shots a game than having to stomach watching Nick Young and Jordan Crawford do it.

But w/o giving up Wall there's no way of that happening.

 

[dior paint]

Originally Posted by Proshares

Originally Posted by DoubleJs07

Dwight Howard is REALLY going to screw the magic. He's saying that he wants to finish the season w. the Magic...well, give the FO a guarantee that you'll re-up w. Orlando if that's the case. If not (and we all know his plan is to bolt anyways), then I hope the Magic do the right thing and trade his ###.

Another thing, who the hell would want to coach or be the GM in Orlando if the rumors are true about Dwight having all the input as far as FO decisions and so forth? SVG and Otis Smith should quit on the spot if this is what it's going to come down to.

Or at least the option for next year, give them another summer.  I was a little against what Cake was saying yesterday about him but I'm leaning more towards that now.

I don't think the Nets will be able to afford Deron, Dwight & Brook.
  

HANG TIME NEW JERSEY – Deron Williams scored an NBA season-high 57 points Sunday night in Charlotte, but the bigger story coming out of the Nets’ win was an injury to Brook Lopez, who would be the centerpiece of a trade for Dwight Howard.

The Nets said Monday that Lopez suffered a sprained right ankle and will be out for three weeks. The bad news is that the trade deadline is in just 10 days, and after playing every single game in his first three seasons, Lopez has suffered two injuries with his team’s sights set on Howard.

The good news is that the injury, though it’s the same foot, is unrelated to the broken bone that forced Lopez to miss the first 32 games of the season. No injuries are good, but this one isn’t too bad.

So does it affect the Nets’ ability to acquire Howard before the deadline? Not really.

Whether or not Howard gets traded still comes down to Magic owner Rich DeVos and presidentAlex Martins. If they decide in the next 10 days that they can convince Howard to stay in Orlando beyond this season, they’re not going to trade for Lopez, healthy or not.

But if the Magic realize that Howard’s time in Orlando is definitely coming to an end, they have no choice but to make a deal, so that they can get what they can (players, picks and cap relief) for their star. And if Howard and agent Dan Fegan make it clear that Howard will be playing in Brooklyn no matter what next season, the Magic have little choice but to make a deal with the Nets.

Even with Lopez hobbled, the Nets can still offer a decent package. In addition to Lopez (there’s no restriction on trading for an injured player), they have rookie MarShon Brooks, a bevy of first-round picks, and enough expiring contracts to absorb the contract of Hedo Turkoglu (owed at least $17.8 million after this season) or Glen Davis ($19.4 million) in a trade. The ability to offer Orlando salary relief is an asset in itself, one that New Jersey has been sure to maintain as it has struggled through a 12-26 season.

If Orlando decides to keep Howard, the Nets will wait, hoping to sign him as a free agent in July, an option that would allow them to keep Lopez and their other assets. But they’d surely jump at the chance to trade for Howard in the next 10 days.

Lopez’s latest injury shouldn’t really affect that scenario, because the possibility of a trade is really about what the Magic believe regarding Howard’s long-term intentions, and not about Lopez’s short-term health.

 

[essential1]

Originally Posted by Seymore CAKE

Originally Posted by Essential1

that Boozer (alone) is a suitable trade for the Lakers.

Even as an emotional wreck Pau has played better than Boozer.

Pau is only 1 year older. And is a better scorer. Better defender. Meshes better with our other superstars. Better passer. And even has a better contract..


Pau's points are down only 2ppg (from all his years with the Lakers). And only 1 rebound from his career high (but this is his second best year rebounding in his 10 year career).. Everything else is within his total career numbers.

And I want you to remember this.. Bynum is shooting 5 more shots a game. A lot more of the offense is run through Andrew than it has been in previous years.

So let's not act like Boozer is even the caliber player of Pau. Even as an emotional wreck, he's not.

Understand this I'm not saying that Boozer = Pau ... what I'm saying is that Pau doesn't = Boozer/Deng.  I'm not willing to make that move.

Even for the Lakers that is a bad trade.. 

It helps neither team..

 

[denni5themenace]

this Dwight situation is terrible

magic gonna lose him for nothing, and the nets will still have all their assets and picks

 

[essential1]

Carmelo Anthony’s discontent with the Knicks organization became so severe after Monday night’s loss to the Bulls, he told a confidant he preferred to be traded before Thursday’s trade deadline, The Post has learned. New York Post

 

[proshares]

Originally Posted by DIOR PAINT

Hmm, good to know thanks

.
  

 

[denni5themenace]

my dude melo

 

[arstyle27]

Originally Posted by Seymore CAKE

Originally Posted by NobleKane

because kobe already has his number 2 guy in bynum(if he can stay healthy). rose has nobody. its going to start getting like lebron when the cavs never brought in a legit number 2 guy. how many years of not winning a title will it take before we start hearing similar rumblings?
boozer and deng are complimentary players which kobe needs and pau is that number 2 guy which rose needs

GTFOHWTBSG!!! No its not... This isn't refusing to trade J.J. Hickson to get Amare.  This is trading your 2nd & 3rd leading scorers for one player. Trading 2 players who combined give you 14 more points 4 more rebounds and 1.5 ast per game than the player you're bringing in.  STOP TRYING TO SPIN IT

  Lets not confuse this.  Let's not act like this is the 27 yr old Pau coming from the Grizzleys this is a 31 yr old Pau Gasol who's been emotionaly frail this season and the playoff run. Pau has what 3yrs left? I know your a Laker fan and you want the best for your team, I understand that but you're out the game. This isn't what you attempted to make it out at all sir so please stop trying to G it.

  

Agreed x10. Lakers arent getting a king's ransom for Pau. And while I agreet the Lakers have no business trading Gasol for Boozer straight up, I would NOT trade Booz and Deng for him.

We good.

 

[krazy88s]

Possible trade with Raja Bell going to the Clips in exchange a $3.8 mil trade exception and CJ Miles to Nets

 

[essential1]

IF Howard ISN'T TRADED. He should go to the Nets... He would have a much better chance to win with them than the Mavs.

Here's why.

The Nets will have a cap of $37mil. That is including DWill accepting his player option.

Brook Lopez is actually a restricted free agent with a qualifying offer of $4.1.

There is $18.9million of cap leaving from Humphries and Okur. So that covers Dwight for a Max Deal.

You also keep Marshon Brooks, Anthony Marrow. Convince Jordan Farmar to accept his player option (he probably will anyway because he won't get more than $5mil and that's if he's lucky)

DWill/Farmar
Marrow/Brooks
-----/-----
Lopez
Howard/ Petro

Assuming Lopez gets a $7mil a year contract.

They are about $52mil.. Which means they have $10mil to go after a SF.

And then a MLE to go after a bench player (most likely at the PF). And vet min contracts to shape out the roster


And Brook Lopez wouldn't even be a liability at the 4. Where all the contenders have weak PFs. And with his size he may pull down more boards than the normal 6 if he's at the PF.


The Magic have to trade him.. But if they don't they gave the Nets a clear path to the ECF at worst.

 

[knightngale]

The bulls and their love for Deng. Remember how bulls management and bulls fans did not want to trade Deng for Bryant even straight up? 

Deng is someone that disappears in the playoffs, especially if it is against Lebron

. Pau has proved that he can play championship basketball.

Boozer is completely useless so this trade would essentially be Deng for Gasol.

 

[wiredz3]

Originally Posted by knightngale

The bulls and their love for Deng. Remember how bulls management and bulls fans did not want to trade Deng for Bryant even straight up? 

You're an idiot if you undervalue Deng. Kobe was the big voice in objecting to a trade that included Deng.
I will agree with you on your boozer is garbage point tho

 

[peteweezy]

Originally Posted by knightngale

The bulls and their love for Deng. Remember how bulls management and bulls fans did not want to trade Deng for Bryant even straight up? 

Deng is someone that disappears in the playoffs, especially if it is against Lebron

. Pau has proved that he can play championship basketball.

Boozer is completely useless so this trade would essentially be Deng for Gasol.

Why don't you check the facts skip? Kobe didn't want Deng to be traded smh. Dudes stay talking don't know what the heck they are talking about.

 

[mr kuter]

Deng and Gibson and a backup PG for Gasol and filler or pick if necessary?

 

[kevin cleveland]

According to Sean Deveney of The Sporting News, the Magic have looked into Ramon Sessions and Devin Harris as potential acquisitions if they don't move Howard.
If one of those two won't keep Dwight around, I don't know who will.

I guess the Hornets had "serious interest" in Jennings before Milwaukee decided not to trade him and make that deal yesterday.

 

[essential1]

Originally Posted by Mr Kuter

Deng and Gibson and a backup PG for Gasol and filler or pick if necessary?

Even more of a no. We go from having the best 4/5 combo to having no PF and 4 SFs. Keeping one we can't trade because of his ridiculous contract. And we'd have to give a pick or another player? If Boozer and Deng is a pass. Deng and Gibson is an insult

 

[seymore cake]

Originally Posted by Peteweezy

Originally Posted by knightngale

The bulls and their love for Deng. Remember how bulls management and bulls fans did not want to trade Deng for Bryant even straight up? 

Deng is someone that disappears in the playoffs, especially if it is against Lebron

. Pau has proved that he can play championship basketball.

Boozer is completely useless so this trade would essentially be Deng for Gasol.

Why don't you check the facts skip? Kobe didn't want Deng to be traded smh. Dudes stay talking don't know what the heck they are talking about.

Laker fans are delusional... there are a hand full of them that think rationally. I'm not even sure why I got myself into this

Even with them saying Boozer is useless... him and Deng are far more useful together than Pau is. Point Blank Period. 

 

[noblekane]

Originally Posted by knightngale

The bulls and their love for Deng. Remember how bulls management and bulls fans did not want to trade Deng for Bryant even straight up? 

yes i do remember that.

 

[noblekane]

Originally Posted by DIOR PAINT

Originally Posted by Proshares

Originally Posted by DoubleJs07

Dwight Howard is REALLY going to screw the magic. He's saying that he wants to finish the season w. the Magic...well, give the FO a guarantee that you'll re-up w. Orlando if that's the case. If not (and we all know his plan is to bolt anyways), then I hope the Magic do the right thing and trade his ###.

Another thing, who the hell would want to coach or be the GM in Orlando if the rumors are true about Dwight having all the input as far as FO decisions and so forth? SVG and Otis Smith should quit on the spot if this is what it's going to come down to.

Or at least the option for next year, give them another summer.  I was a little against what Cake was saying yesterday about him but I'm leaning more towards that now.

I don't think the Nets will be able to afford Deron, Dwight & Brook.
  

HANG TIME NEW JERSEY – Deron Williams scored an NBA season-high 57 points Sunday night in Charlotte, but the bigger story coming out of the Nets’ win was an injury to Brook Lopez, who would be the centerpiece of a trade for Dwight Howard.

The Nets said Monday that Lopez suffered a sprained right ankle and will be out for three weeks. The bad news is that the trade deadline is in just 10 days, and after playing every single game in his first three seasons, Lopez has suffered two injuries with his team’s sights set on Howard.

The good news is that the injury, though it’s the same foot, is unrelated to the broken bone that forced Lopez to miss the first 32 games of the season. No injuries are good, but this one isn’t too bad.

So does it affect the Nets’ ability to acquire Howard before the deadline? Not really.

Whether or not Howard gets traded still comes down to Magic owner Rich DeVos and presidentAlex Martins. If they decide in the next 10 days that they can convince Howard to stay in Orlando beyond this season, they’re not going to trade for Lopez, healthy or not.

But if the Magic realize that Howard’s time in Orlando is definitely coming to an end, they have no choice but to make a deal, so that they can get what they can (players, picks and cap relief) for their star. And if Howard and agent Dan Fegan make it clear that Howard will be playing in Brooklyn no matter what next season, the Magic have little choice but to make a deal with the Nets.

Even with Lopez hobbled, the Nets can still offer a decent package. In addition to Lopez (there’s no restriction on trading for an injured player), they have rookie MarShon Brooks, a bevy of first-round picks, and enough expiring contracts to absorb the contract of Hedo Turkoglu (owed at least $17.8 million after this season) or Glen Davis ($19.4 million) in a trade. The ability to offer Orlando salary relief is an asset in itself, one that New Jersey has been sure to maintain as it has struggled through a 12-26 season.

If Orlando decides to keep Howard, the Nets will wait, hoping to sign him as a free agent in July, an option that would allow them to keep Lopez and their other assets. But they’d surely jump at the chance to trade for Howard in the next 10 days.

Lopez’s latest injury shouldn’t really affect that scenario, because the possibility of a trade is really about what the Magic believe regarding Howard’s long-term intentions, and not about Lopez’s short-term health.

the nets wont keep brook around with dwight regardless if howard signs with them and no trades are made.

 

[sooperhooper]

Melo has a lot of growing up to do. His mentally reminds me of AI.

 

[Deleted member 38182]

There better be like 20 trades in the next 2.5 hours...... this is boring!!!

 

[noblekane]

Originally Posted by rck2sactown

There better be like 20 trades in the next 2.5 hours...... this is boring!!!

tyreke needs to be traded

 

[finallyfamous]

Lego

 

[Deleted member 38182]

Ya idk, I hate the thought of it but thats probably true.....

I'd rather dump Thornton and get a lower tier 3 or big than trading away Tyreke

I guess before Monta/Bogut went down the W's were throwing Ellis for Tyreke. That can only be a good thing for Tyreke's value right??

 

[dman14]

magic better not roll the dice