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Who in today's game is GP or Joe Dumars? Name them please.
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Who in today's game is GP or Joe Dumars? Name them please.
EddieDoyers
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You can't compare this decade's point guards to those of the 90s...different time period, different rules, and different workout regimen.
Only thing you can argue is that Wall and Steph are more efficient shooting the ball than those from the 90s.
Only thing you can argue is that Wall and Steph are more efficient shooting the ball than those from the 90s.
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Would John Wall be counting people's pockets knowing they'd want to fight him?
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Wall would get eaten alive back then. These players today get touched and cry for calls. All these guys would probably get fewer free throw attempts across the board back then. The scoring averages would drop.
Proposition Joe
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Those point guards may have been smarter with better vision but they didnt have the explosiveness of a Irving and Westbrook. Those great defenders would have a hard time staying in front of them in those one on one scenarios.
It's really too tough to call
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Random, and should probably put this in the draft thread, but he's an example as to why I think Lonzo will be fine.
Adams led the league in made 3s twice and was shooting it from his hip almost, but it was extremely quick.
So is Lonzo's. he has a bit of wasted movement in there, but he still gets it off so fast.
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Free throws add to all these players scoring averages. They wouldn't get half the calls they do now back then. That's a fact.
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What does that have to do with saying there weren't more great defenders back then? What is Kawhi going to do with MJ? Gobert with Hakeem? Draymond with Shaq? Not a gaddamn thing.
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You realize MJ was averaging 8-12 free throw attempts a game, right?
EddieDoyers
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That's because of the NBA telling refs to call fouls more strictly.
I'm sure the elite point guards of today would adapt to the 90s refs just fine. They would probably get hurt more, but there isn't really a basis to a performance dip.
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Ummm he post the I responded too said they were better defenders back then, I said it wasn't true. I think it's great and equally good defenders in both eras. I'm not putting one over the other. So I stand by my original comment.
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Exactly. That small ball stuff wouldn't work back then. People think GS is getting killed in the paint now. It would be 10 times worse if they tried this in that era.
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i feel as if we need an nba legends thread cuz this thread be talking bout old nba and retired players way too much
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James Harden EATS at the line. If he's not getting the calls it's not a stretch to say his scoring would take a hit.
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Me and my brother were talking about the infamous Terrell Brandon, "Best PG in the NBA" Sports Illustrated preview from '97 the other day 
On first thought....we scoffed at how ridiculous SI was being. Then we actually took a look at the PGs during that time :x
Gary Payton and Jkidd had that title probably...but Terrell came off a decent year.
The other PGs were either too young (AI, Nash), or nearing the end of their career (Stockton, price, kj etc)
On first thought....we scoffed at how ridiculous SI was being. Then we actually took a look at the PGs during that time :x
Gary Payton and Jkidd had that title probably...but Terrell came off a decent year.
The other PGs were either too young (AI, Nash), or nearing the end of their career (Stockton, price, kj etc)
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Bernard King and Dominique Wilkins too
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How many free throws would you average bro?
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Harden and Russ are the only players that get to the line a ridiculous amount of times.
Derozen too. He's so skilled at drawing fouls. If Lo Will played 36mpg...him too
Derozen too. He's so skilled at drawing fouls. If Lo Will played 36mpg...him too
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And people still make up ways to hate on this man. If you don't like him or his style of play cool, but to act like he is trash etc is reaching.
EddieDoyers
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So like his points per game would just drop 1 or 2 ppg if he gets fouled "a little less", big whoop.
Players adapt to the rules. The good ones will find the best way to get points even if it's not flashy.
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Who are the truly great defenders of today?
Kawhi
Dray
Gobert
Dwight
Good:
Klay
Giannis (just this season)
PG13
Jimmy B
Bradley
Tony Allen
CP3
Greats from yesteryear:
Pippen
MJ
Payton
Hakeem
Stockton
Rodman
Artest
Good:
Robinson
Dumars
Mutumbo
Duncan
KG
Kidd
Big Ben
I mean c'mon man.
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Inb4 "blew a 3-1 lead", "Iggy has the Finals MVP", etc.
As far as Steph playing in the 90s: I don't think people are saying he'd be trash, just saying he wouldn't be unanimous MVP/video game level. But if they are saying he'd be trash, I can't get with that at all
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I don't believe all those guys were great at the same time.
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