Official 2016-2017 NBA Season Thread - NBA rules Chris Bosh has a career ending injury

[Scarborough]

A great defender is someone like Bron or Kawhi. They can effectively guard the best scorers on any team outside of a elite scoring big. Speaking of which who are elite scoring bigs?

AD, Boogie and KAT. Am I missing someone?

i get that but what stats do you use to determine the difference?

 

[ill steelo]

what is the difference between a great and good defender?

also no shane battier, tony allen or james posey?

A great defender is someone like Bron or Kawhi. They can effectively guard the best scorers on any team outside of a elite scoring big. Speaking of which who are elite scoring bigs?

AD, Boogie and KAT. Am I missing someone?

Brook Lopez been giving you 20 a night for pretty much the last 7 years

 

[abematic]

Curry got no toughness. He will fold.

 

[the collector]

i get that but what stats do you use to determine the difference?

Real talk I don't know. My assessment was eyeball test. Someone else could probably break it down for you better then I could.

 

[Scarborough]

Brook Lopez been giving you 20 a night for pretty much the last 7 years

Moose and AL jefferson as well

 

[squarianaa]

Brook Lopez been giving you 20 a night for pretty much the last 7 years

Subtly, no news around him as long as he's in Brooklyn so some people forget that.

Moose and AL jefferson as well

If you talkin bout Utah/Minnesota Al Jefferson then yeah. These last few seasons, not really/

 

[kyrachelover]

John wall should be in this list

 

[MVP]

Updated list:

1990-2005 (Iso ball/
hand check era)- Pippen, MJ, Payton, Stockton, Hakeem, Rodman, Duncan, KG, Artest, Big Ben, D. Robinson, Kobe, Dumars, Mutumbo, AK47, Bowen, Kidd, Christie, Mourning, E. Jones, H. Grant, C. Robinson, K. Malone (all multiple time All NBA defenders)

3-point era: Dwight, Dray, CP3, Kawhi, Bell, Battier, Bron, T. Allen, Bradley, PG13, Tyson, Jimmy B. Noah, Rondo, D. Jordan (all multiple time All-NBA defenders).

M. Camby had selections towards the tail end of the iso era and beginning of the 3 point era.

 

[the collector]

John wall should be in this list

Wall isn't a 48 minutes per game elite defender. He's a timely defensive player. Clutch steals and blocks.

 

[mister friendly]

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what is the difference between a great and good defender?

also no shane battier, tony allen or james posey?

A great defender is someone like Bron or Kawhi. They can effectively guard the best scorers on any team outside of a elite scoring big. Speaking of which who are elite scoring bigs?
?

I believe Lebron locked down Gasol for a quarter.

 

[freddy fig]

Cant wait for shumpert to pester curry this yr..

 

[freddy fig]

Updated list:

1990-2005 (Iso ball/
hand check era)- Pippen, MJ, Payton, Stockton, Hakeem, Rodman, Duncan, KG, Artest, Big Ben, D. Robinson, Kobe, Dumars, Mutumbo, AK47, Bowen, Kidd, Christie, Mourning, E. Jones, H. Grant, C. Robinson, K. Malone (all multiple time All NBA defenders)

3-point era: Dwight, Dray, CP3, Kawhi, Bell, Battier, Bron, T. Allen, Bradley, PG13, Tyson, Jimmy B. Noah, Rondo, D. Jordan (all multiple time All-NBA defenders).

M. Camby had selections towards the tail end of the iso era and beginning of the 3 point era.

Nice list right there.

 

[wavycrocket]

Updated list:

1990-2005 (Iso ball/
hand check era)- Pippen, MJ, Payton, Stockton, Hakeem, Rodman, Duncan, KG, Artest, Big Ben, D. Robinson, Kobe, Dumars, Mutumbo, AK47, Bowen, Kidd, Christie, Mourning, E. Jones, H. Grant, C. Robinson, K. Malone (all multiple time All NBA defenders)

3-point era: Dwight, Dray, CP3, Kawhi, Bell, Battier, Bron, T. Allen, Bradley, PG13, Tyson, Jimmy B. Noah, Rondo, D. Jordan (all multiple time All-NBA defenders).

M. Camby had selections towards the tail end of the iso era and beginning of the 3 point era.

No:

D Wade
Iggy
Paul George
John Wall
Marc Gasol
Anthony Davis
Andre Bogut
Serge Ibaka
Ron Artest

???? List still invalid

 

[rolaholic]

Wade is by far the most glaring omission :x

 

[addict4sneakers]

Pat Bev
Wes Mathews
Smart
Neck Tat

 

[wavycrocket]

And Put some respect on Prime J-Smoove as a defender dammit

**** was consistently top 5 in blocks and steals

 

[MVP]

No:

D Wade
Iggy
Paul George
John Wall
Marc Gasol
Anthony Davis
Andre Bogut
Serge Ibaka
Ron Artest

???? List still invalid

Everyone on this list except Serge only has 1 all NBA defensive selection. And PG13 was included. I forgot to include Tayshaun.

 

[BIG LEEMELONE]

this era you also gotta add Bron, Tyson Chandler, Camby, Noah and Bogut

Camby was an elite defender the same way love or Russ are elite rebounders

 

[awwsome]

And Put some respect on Prime J-Smoove as a defender dammit

**** was consistently top 5 in blocks and steals

The waste of his talent isn't talked about enough.

He could've been a more athletic version of Draymond if he just had better shot selection and worked on his playmaking.

He was blessed with rare genetic gifts and already had the defensive IQ from a young age but he was his own worst enemy.

http://bkref.com/tiny/fG2lj

This list lets you know how special he could've been.

In '10 at only age 24 he put up similar defensive, playmaking and rebounding numbers that rival prime David Robinson, Duncan, KG, AK47, Noah and Marc Gasol.

 

[Quincy McCall]

 Bosh at his peak was pretty good

Roberson making a name for himself these days too

 

[ill steelo]

Josh Smith had the tools man. Draymond comp is spot on.

 

[Hank Scorpio]

 Bosh at his peak was pretty good

Roberson making a name for himself these days too

Before having to leave the NBA, Chris Bosh was arguably the best pick and roll defender in the league.

 

[pmatic]

How the hell have Shawn Marion and Luol Deng not been mentioned yet? Throw in role players like PJ Tucker, Thabo Sefelosha, Taj Gibson, Trevor Ariza too.

 

[nick.]

The spacing of that Smith-Monroe-Drummond frontcourt :x :x

 

[MVP]

How the hell have Shawn Marion and Luol Deng not been mentioned yet? Throw in role players like PJ Tucker, Thabo Sefelosha, Taj Gibson, Trevor Ariza too.

They either have 1 or no all NBA selections.