Official 2017 NBA Offseason Thread: Media Days begin

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You dont want Kyrie being the best player on your team unless he's playing the 2 and you got somebody else running the squad...

Kyrie running the team himself at point is a disaster
 
bballkid11 said:
According to people not authorized to speak publicly, George, a Palmdale native, is still telling friends that he intends to be a Laker in 2018. Because of that, he knows the Lakers have little incentive to trade for him now. – via Los Angeles Times
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Winning changes everything.
 
PCH Roadwinder said:
Buc Em said:
Those things helped absolutely but now he's established himself and in the prime of his career. People aren't going to stop liking him and buying his shoes because he switched teams.
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Right not to mention he was making AS games before LBJ got there if i'm not mistaken. He made at least one.
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2013 AS voting

1. Dwyane Wade 1,052,310
2. Rajon Rondo 924,180
3. Deron Williams 449,791
4. Kyrie Irving 445,730
5. Ray Allen 326,186
6. Monta Ellis 123,096
7. Raymond Felton 105,340
8. Jrue Holiday 103,146
9. Jason Terry 88,708
10. Paul George 80,060

Coach selection

2014

1. Dwyane Wade 929,542
2. Kyrie Irving 860,221
3. John Wall 393,129
4. Derrick Rose 359,546
5. Ray Allen 250,909
6. Rajon Rondo 174,654
7. Lance Stephenson 148,382
8. DeMar DeRozan 131,228
9. George Hill 129,533
10. Deron Williams 126,423

Voted in by fans

2015

1. John Wall 886,368
2. Kyle Lowry 805,290
3. Dwyane Wade 789,839
4. Kyrie Irving 535,873
5. Jimmy Butler 455,756
6. Derrick Rose 379,994
7. DeMar DeRozan 159,123
8. Jeff Teague 83,900
9. Lou Williams 82,135
10. Giannis Antetokounmpo 55,014

2016

1. Dwyane Wade 941,466
2. Kyle Lowry 646,441
3. Kyrie Irving 580,651
4. Jimmy Butler 564,637
5. DeMar DeRozan 444,868
6. John Wall 368,686
7. Derrick Rose 302,389
8. Jeremy Lin 195,920
9. Isaiah Thomas 153,642
10. Reggie Jackson 76,688

2017

1. Kyrie Irving 1,696,769
2. Dwyane Wade 979,566
3. DeMar DeRozan 796,112
4. Isaiah Thomas 755,102
5. Kyle Lowry 471,697
6. Derrick Rose 337,706
7. John Wall 301,437
8. Jeremy Lin 202,502
9. Kemba Walker 170,299
10. Avery Bradley 97,441

A lot easier making the ASG in the East
 
What's the likelihood of PG going to a team that makes it to the Conference Finals or Finals, then going to the Lakers next season? Especially if him going to the Lakers will just leave him in a worse position.
 
I don't see why he would leave a losing situation in Indy to go to another in LA...if he's serious about winning.
 
definitely possible. Laker side is counting on him coming over because he wants to play in LA while the other side says he'll start winning games, perhaps get into the Finals, and love it so much that he'll re-up.

I don't think PG is a "I need to win" kind of guy, so i still think he leans strongly towards the Lakers.
 
RBK93 said:
I don't see why he would leave a losing situation in Indy to go to another in LA...if he's serious about winning.
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well, the Lakers future looks much brighter than Indiana;s, so there's that. And he's probably pretty confident another star will join him, which we probably agree with him. Someone else will join him.
 
bhzmafia14 said:
What's the likelihood of PG going to a team that makes it to the Conference Finals or Finals, then going to the Lakers next season? Especially if him going to the Lakers will just leave him in a worse position.
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99%

He's been to the conference finals before. Only way I see him staying anywhere where he's a rental is if he wins a chip. And that place would only be in GS.

The man has said over and over he'll be a mercenary for this year anywhere butt then he's out.
 
Only other superstar I can see going to the Lakers would be Westbrook.
 
Mamba MVP said:
Winning what exactly? Unless he goes to the Warriors he ain't winning nothing anyway.
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If Paul George and Hayward both go to the Celtics they're winning the East and going to the Finals. We've already had this convo before but until he proves me wrong no one in their right mind is leaving a team after one season with them and going to the Finals and winning probably close to 60 games for one of the worst teams in the league in the prime of their career. I'll believe it when I see it.
 
Boston CAN get a lot of things, wouldn't be the least bit shocked if they end up with neither though cause of Ainge.
 
lol i highly doubt russ leaving man. love is addictive. okc shows that man hella love. he'll have a statue there.
 
Buc Em said:
Winning changes everything.
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You guys are making a lot of assumptions that all players put winning above everything.  That's just not true.  Some players like LeBron and KD do.

Paul George?  If winning was #1 he wouldn't be trying to go to the Lakers in the first place.

Same for Melo, he would rather have $$ and live in NYC.  He made that decision a long time ago and has doubled down on it.
 
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