**OFFICIAL 2019 NBA OFFSEASON THREAD**

[Based Jesus]

Again, never said he was a fake MVP. Matter fact when Russ avg a triple I said it could go either way. I'm messing with these Harden fans cuz they acted like he was getting robbed of the MVP and the media hated him and that was the reason why he didn't get the MVP. Now we see he has his below .500 after this thread constantly used wins as to why he's "The Real MVP". It's funny seeing dudes have different sets of rules when they love a player.

But........he's not MVP of this season though so I don't know why you keep bringing up **** THIS season.

 

[ill steelo]

I can't roll with that when it's costing his team and we've watched him over his whole Houston run have TERRIBLE sloppy games in big moments. This ain't some new occurrence.

There’s nothing to “roll” with given his usage, he’s not turning the ball over any more frequently than anyone else.
At the present moment, the team has been giving up 10+ points when he’s not on the court. That’s a much bigger issue.

 

[Maximus Meridius]

But........he's not MVP of this season though so I don't know why you keep bringing up **** THIS season.

Cuz I mf'n feel like it dawg.

 

[BIG LEEMELONE]

I
TO rate factors in shot attempts, so a guy with 20+ shots, 10+ attempts from the line and is passing is probably going to give it back to the defense more on a per game basis compared to a guy who is only wearing one of those hats.

Ok I see..I can't really get down with that then . So he is turning it over more than others. When magic had 26% usg he put up 12.2:3.8. When harden had 27% usg he put up 6.1:3.6

 

[Based Jesus]

Cuz I mf'n feel like it dawg.

I'm just saying, it dont make much mf'n sense dawg

 

[Maximus Meridius]

I'm just saying, it dont make much mf'n sense dawg

Let's make a list of the **** ya'll repeat that don't make sense about other palyers

 

[Based Jesus]

Let's make a list of the **** ya'll repeat that don't make sense about other palyers

Things like "Ingram is Giannis with a jumper"?
Or "Lonzo the next J. Kidd"?

 

[drewsone]

ingram is a poorer man's poor man's KD

 

[BIG LEEMELONE]

I want yall to @ me when Ingram is putting up 20 ppg at the end of the year. Look at his PPP on wide open shots from the left corner in games against eastern teams. Goggles

 

[ill steelo]

Ok I see..I can't really get down with that then . So he is turning it over more than others. When magic had 26% usg he put up 12.2:3.8. When harden had 27% usg he put up 6.1:3.6

I guess I’m confused why were focusing on a/t ratio as if you only turn the ball over when you’re creating offense for others rather than creating offense in general

 

[Platinum State]

Remember when everyone was high on Mudiay on NT when he was a rookie? I remember

 

[carver]

 

[BIG LEEMELONE]

I guess I’m confused why were focusing on a/t ratio as if you only turn the ball over when you’re creating offense for others rather than creating offense in general

I genuinely don't get why it matters. A turnover is a turnover regardless. A/t ratio is pretty straightforward. Harden turns the ball over a lot and his assist numbers don't really compensate for it

 

[Sonny Corinthos]

ingram is a poorer man's poor man's KD

Homeless man's KD

 

[DCAllAfrican]

Things like "Ingram is Giannis with a jumper"?
Or "Lonzo the next J. Kidd"?

Zion Randle

 

[QU!K]

ingram is a poorer man's poor man's KD

Goodwill KD

 

[ill steelo]

I genuinely don't get why it matters. A turnover is a turnover regardless. A/t ratio is pretty straightforward. Harden turns the ball over a lot and his assist numbers don't really compensate for it

Looking at a/t completely ignores the value (and TO opportunities) he generates as a scorer, which is a pretty large part of what he brings to the table.

 

[JD617]

Thanasis with a jumper was supposed to be one of the best players in the league by now.

Ingram will be in the convo for best player in the league in a couple years and it's pretty obvious. Giannis with a jumper.

That was a couple years ago. He's on the clock.

 

[BIG LEEMELONE]

Looking at a/t completely ignores the value (and TO opportunities) he generates as a scorer, which is a pretty large part of what he brings to the table.

This is what I'm hearing: 'It's ok for harden to have all these turnovers because he turns it over in a variety of ways'. What you're saying is false because a/t is straightforward, it treats all turnovers the same. It's not ignoring anything. That magic season I keep talking about, he played 36 mpg took 17 shots 8 free throws 26% usg and still had 12.2:3.8. Harden turns the ball over too much..there's really no way around it

 

[storm2006]

Trade worked out for both teams so far.

People really want to make Stringer out to be a villain. Why can’t they just accept both teams improved

 

[QU!K]

Thanasis with a jumper was supposed to be one of the best players in the league by now.



That was a couple years ago. He's on the clock.

Can I get a year by year in the league comparison for Giannis vs Ingram?

 

[JD617]

Can I get a year by year in the league comparison for Giannis vs Ingram?

http://bkref.com/tiny/hUqAD

http://bkref.com/tiny/CNNNl

http://bkref.com/tiny/vVfme

 

[carver]

Ingram need to get on that vitamin S just like giannis to take it to the next level

 

[equality]

What would be interesting is looking at a/t ratio with time with the ball. It makes sense that a superstar guard averages more assists and more turnovers if they handle the ball a **** ton. The gems are the ones who have low a/t ratio and disproportionately less time with the ball

 

[equality]

Ingram need to get on that vitamin S just like giannis to take it to the next level

Ingram needs to not be Brandon Ingram