**OFFICIAL 2019 NBA OFFSEASON THREAD**

[mikedalton]

I realy used to hate harden cause I thought he was all gas. Then 2 years ago I started watching more and more and hes become one of my favorite players. Hes built like a regular *** dude with a baby gut but cooking everyone in the NBA. Even with all the fouls, that's just the game and IDK how anyone can hate on him anymore.

 

[carver]

Thibs already killed that man playing him 48 a night

 

[JD617]

Meanwhile a guy who was on a 67 win team that only lost two easily REPLACEABLE role players over the summer, gets hot for three weeks and raises his team from the dungeons of the west.... & he deserves MVP consideration. gotta love this thread.

This dude isn't even a top three offensive player in the League Right NOW

I almost have to just respect the dedication at this point. I mean, even leemelone gave him his props last night.

He doesn't deserve MVP consideration and he's not a top 3 offensive player currently.

 

[wavycrocket]

Starboy

 

[P C H]

Harden has averaged 29 a game over his last 3 playoff runs w/a 56TS%

That's over his last 33 playoff games. That's far from "Choking."

He has bad playoff moments. He has great playoff moments. Just like every other superstar.

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

Starboy

This account ran by Lavar

 

[nick.]

He's definitely changing the game. He's creating a new archetype of player.

Kevin Porter

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

Harden has averaged 29 a game over his last 3 playoff runs w/a 56TS%

That's over his last 33 playoff games. That's far from "Choking."

He has bad playoff moments. He has great playoff moments. Just like every other superstar.

Very true on your last point. 99% of the best have had terrible playoff series’

He didn’t choke in his last playoff series with gsw but it was definitely noteworthy enough to not gloss over by citing “his last 33 playoff games”

 

[everysingletime]

Lol Harden shouldn't get credit for the increased volume of 3s around the league

That's on Curry

If Harden is jacking up 3s at an unprecedented rate right now, that's only cuz Steph launched a new Era where that's ok

 

[wavycrocket]

Put me in the camp that thinks Steph would put up better numbers than Harden if he had MDA, had no other ball handlers on the team and just ran pick&rolls all game.

Man was a baby averaging 24 & 9 under Mark Jackson’s rigid offense (and Jarret Jack’s hawk *** stealing shine ).

Imagine What he’d do with Dantoni’s P&R

 

[hardens beard]

Man was a baby averaging 24 & 9 under Mark Jackson’s rigid offense (and Jarret Jack’s hawk *** stealing shine ).

Imagine What he’d do with Dantoni’s P&R

He wouldn’t last 40 games with Pringles and his 6 man rotations

 

[drewsone]

still mad that HOU would have rather missed 27 3's in a row last year than try something else at any point of the game during a game 7

 

[P C H]

Very true on your last point. 99% of the best have had terrible playoff series’

He didn’t choke in his last playoff series with gsw but it was definitely noteworthy enough to not gloss over by citing “his last 33 playoff games”

The simple concept of sample size + increased minutes + team quality in the postseason equaling slight regression is lost on some.

His 3 ball falls off a cliff, but he's still getting to the line a ton, still giving you the elite playmaking and scoring, it's almost like if your name isn't Mike you're a playoff failure and choker until you aren't I guess. He's averaged 27 a game in the playoffs w/a 56TS% since he's been in Houston

Lebron scored 29 of the Cavs last 30 points on the road and ****** were calling him a choker still until he won a chip so I get it and James isn't except I guess, he's had some playoff lowssss but this is kind of crazy. He has some all time bad playoff moments, but so does Magic, So does Kobe, so does MJ, the nature of the beast though is to highlight the bad until they win.

 

[MVP]

Lakers fan SHOOK Houston byke!

As much **** as I give Lebby, who you trust more in a playoff series, him or James Harden?

 

[Peep Game]

still mad that HOU would have rather missed 27 3's in a row last year than try something else at any point of the game during a game 7

How many times will people gloss over that they never would taken all those 3s had they been given the same calls driving as GSW did on the other end?? Those 3s were the result of the refs swallowing whistles when Houston was driving then rewarding GSW doing the same. Jesus Christ

 

[everysingletime]

still mad that HOU would have rather missed 27 3's in a row last year than try something else at any point of the game during a game 7

Dear lord.. 27 in a row?

 

[drewsone]

How many times will people gloss over that they never would taken all those 3s had they been given the same calls driving as GSW did on the other end?? Those 3s were the result of the refs swallowing whistles when Houston was driving then rewarding GSW doing the same. Jesus Christ

the refs were super boo boo that game but 27 in a row dawg? NBA WCF Game 7?

Dear lord.. 27 in a row?

it was something like that.. 23, 24, 25, 26, 27 lol

 

[wavycrocket]

How many times will people gloss over that they never would taken all those 3s had they been given the same calls driving as GSW did on the other end?? Those 3s were the result of the refs swallowing whistles when Houston was driving then rewarding GSW doing the same. Jesus Christ

 

[equality]

Prime Kobe when he dropped 62 in 3 quarters on the Mavs offense > Harden's.

Slower pace, less spacing, triangle as opposed to D'Antoni's offense heavy system and Kobe was murdering teams by himself.

 

[drewsone]

As much **** as I give Lebby, who you trust more in a playoff series, him or James Harden?

LeHGH James!!

 

[P C H]

Prime Kobe when he dropped 62 in 3 quarters on the Mavs offense > Harden's.

Slower pace, less spacing, triangle as opposed to D'Antoni's offense heavy system and Kobe was murdering teams by himself.

It's all relative though. The Rockets play at the slowest pace in the NBA right now so James isn't getting his by playing at a faster pace.

 

[d3si]

Lol Harden shouldn't get credit for the increased volume of 3s around the league

That's on Curry

If Harden is jacking up 3s at an unprecedented rate right now, that's only cuz Steph launched a new Era where that's ok

Always thought Antoine Walker started that volume. Ray Allen started doing the same thing after that. Then Arenas, Pierce and others

Steph pushed volume up much further

 

[ill steelo]

Fatigue hasn't been as much of a factor as simply losing to better teams.

29% from 3 over the past 2 runs. 24% in that Warriors series alone. Career highs in usage in both reg season & playoffs. No other explanation unless you think he chokes

 

[MajinZuub]

Lol Harden shouldn't get credit for the increased volume of 3s around the league

That's on Curry

If Harden is jacking up 3s at an unprecedented rate right now, that's only cuz Steph launched a new Era where that's ok

Beard put up less than 7 3's a game in '14-15. He's at over 12 now.

 

[hardens beard]

05/06 Kobe 45.6 points per 100 possessions

18/19 Harden 45.3 points per 100 possessions