**OFFICIAL 2019 NBA OFFSEASON THREAD**

[Air Pope]

The James harden era

That's like saying mj played in the Mitch Richmond era

Yall too much sometimes

Glad I ain’t buggin. Feel like I’m in the twilight zone.

 

[MajinZuub]

Guys weren't picking up back-to-back, unanimous MVP's and #1 seeds in MJ's era

If you can deny his influence on the league then idk

That is Steph's influence.

 

[freeze]

harden will never give you this beautiful move right here. never ever. dudes sleeping on kobe fundamentals. there was nothing he couldnt do on the basketball court. Probably most skill player of all time, when we're talking actual tangible skills.

 

[MVP]

The argument is about footwork doe.

Every player has their tendencies and habits. We can dumb down everyone’s game if we hate them enough.

Lol you picked up a tiny portion of what dude said. Literally right before footwork he said Kobe can do everything. Bean had moves on top of moves, and counter moves when the defense was great. I've never said James ain't great at what he does, it's just not necessarily appealing to watch as some of the other current great scorers and some from years past. Y'all also must REALLY enjoy watching dudes shoot free throws.

With Harden you're getting a drive, a cross x stepback, or a flail and a foul (combined with the aforementioned). Impressive that he's able to dominate to this degreewith this limited set but that's today's NBA.

 

[whoaitsgee]

Aint it harder shooting step back 3 and making them then fade-aways from the block

That step back 3 is lethal. Once he creates a separation and air space, it's over. The fact that he's also hitting those at excellent percentage, plus the ability to draw fouls makes it a real life cheat code.

 

[nick.]

Probably most skill player of all time, when we're talking actual tangible skills

 

[B Sox]

Can we also say that Kobe could never sniff Harden's playmaking ability for others? Not even close.

 

[MVP]

Can we also say that Kobe could never sniff Harden's playmaking ability for others? Not even close.

When he was asked to do so he was capable.

 

[nick.]

What does 'most skilled' even mean?

 

[D StaXX]

Can we also say that Kobe could never sniff Harden's playmaking ability for others? Not even close.

This.

 

[Lizakers]

D Rose doesn’t have to sell himself. I love it

 

[don ramon]

love all the kobe bryant revisionism in this thread ZZZzzzz...

 

[B Sox]

When he was asked to do so he was capable.

Kobe was a good passer, when he actually chose to.

There are levels though, and Kobe certainly was never on his.

 

[MVP]

love all the kobe bryant revisionism in this thread ZZZzzzz...

Didn't your clown self put Harden > Bean earlier?

 

[pmatic]

How soon we forget old Kobe in D'Antoni's system putting up numbers before he tore his Achilles.

 

[BIG LEEMELONE]

I'm trying to give harden credit but yall make it difficult because yall wanna give him more credit than he's earned

 

[freeze]

Kobe more skilled than Dream.

I said what I said.

 

[Lizakers]

Kobe was a good passer, when he actually chose to.

There are levels though, and Kobe certainly was never on his.

True. Harden is a better playmaker. I mean, he came up as point guard.

Kobe is a better natural scorer. Could do it in so many ways and in an era with less foul calls and without baiting a defender to foul him.

 

[T0INE]

Missed the game

Washed.

 

[BIG LEEMELONE]

Kobe definitely had elite playmaking ability he just didn't have the aptitude. Asking him to play like that consistently would be like asking harden not to flop. Just not his style

 

[MVP]

How soon we forget old Kobe in D'Antoni's system putting up numbers before he tore his Achilles.

Yup when he went to primary ball handler as Nash was in and out of the lineup I think he had like 32 games of 7+ assists and 11 double digit assist games by far the most of his career in any season. MDA offense is steroids. Started calling him Kobe Johnson that year.

 

[HIM]

Washed.

Being called washed by Mr. Maytag himself. How did i get here?

 

[atlsfinest]

This dude is never happy.

 

[JD617]

It isn't figure skating. You don't get extra points for being aesthetically pleasing. Carmelo had more variety in his game than Harden too, but he wasn't a better offensive player.

Also it's funny that clip of Kobe's 61 point game in MSG was used... because he made 20 free throws in that game. He made more free throws than field goals. I thought you guys hated that.

 

[youngwolf]

What's the story with Jabari Parker? He just getting healthy scratches or what?

He's ****ing terrible.