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Man the slander here is crazy haha I won a friday night out by betting earlier and is ALA member by my Celtics fandom but this thread in shambles haha
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I'll give you Rose. His injuries also became a joke for some reason.
To be fair, Bulls fans made it easy to hate Rose. @seymore cake was in here everyday talmbout pooh this and pooh that. But...I don’t think anyone made fun of him after the initial injury. It was like injury #3 where the jokes came in. I made a Santa hat Avy of him in a wheelchair that made a lot of people angry![]()
Gordon Hayward absolutely wasn’t overhyped.
Convenient he damn near broke his leg in two, and hasn’t recovered... so you can get your “he never really was that good” takes off.
It’s from the barbershop types. You know “what it is”. White Wing....they think he was “overhyped” in Utah. I see the vibes.
Yeah the jokes didn't really start flying until he sat out the following season despite being cleared. People called him "soft" or "quitting on his team".
If you haven't noticed by now...the Hayward takes on here are rooted in something else.
I have never in my life seen a player catch flack for getting injured until now...and it has nothing to do with basketball unfortunately.
Despite his improved play in the past few weeks and his warming to his reserve role, Jaylen Brown said he’s unhappy with the Celtics losing, saying that he and his teammates have to try to fix the “toxic” environment.
“To be honest, I’m not feeling good at all,” Brown said. “The losing, it’s not a good feeling. I’m not too good about that.
“Because right now it’s not good. It’s toxic. I can’t really point out one thing. I don’t have all the answers. I’m just going to try to be part of the change. I’m going to try to do my best. That’s all I’ve got to say.”
I thought so..just wanted confirmation. I don't think it's Hayward's fault for the C's struggles but he is clearly not 100%. The thing is would you rather bank on a 28 year old still recovering from a serious injury. Or give those minutes and shot attempts to younger players who as of right now in his current state are better than him in Tatum and Brown, who have a higher ceiling than him in the long term as well?
There'd be an argument for this if Brown and Tatum were producing at a level in the current rotation...that suggests they'd be better with more minutes. Is more minutes going to make Tatum stop trying to be 06 Kobe by hoisting contested long twos? Are they going to make Jaylen Brown less selfish and not shoot every time he touches it?
Tatum is 2nd on the team in minutes at 31...Brown plays the same as Hayward at 26. Exactly how much time is he "taking" from them? Especially Brown considering they usually share the floor together.
I'll give you Rose. His injuries also became a joke for some reason. The rest of your examples are comical. Nobody slandered Paul George when he came back. He came back earlier than expected...played the last week of the season and came back the next year back to normal. I dare you to pull one receipt of Paul George slander when he came back. Wall always came back from injury looking like himself. As a matter of fact...his first season after a season ending injury...he made the playoffs for the 1st time. Kobe was at the end of his career and sustained his injury at the end of his season. He never missed a season...which I specifically asked you to provide examples. Please stop it.
Am I acting like Hayward is getting "major" blame or is that how your magical brain is interpreting this conversation? I didn't even MENTION the Celtics and how he factors into their current season. I'm simply speaking SPECIFICALLY to the crowd that's posting Hayward stats and talking about his contract without context. As if he's averaging 10 points simply because he's averaging 10 points.
Shaun Livingston missed 2 entire seasons and had to fight his way back as a journeyman. He certainly didn't "look good right after".
How has THJr looked in Dallas?
Magic throwing lebron under the bus,in fear of being fired. The real suge knight is out here. Don’t go to summer league lebron its in Vegas. If it happened to 2pac it can happen to you.
Death Row Basketball
The Phil Jackson skill...N Calapari be doing the same thing on the college level, wonder if he would give the league another shot with what he knows nowSo, I guess this Celtics season is a good illustration that managing ego/personalities and getting a lot of talented players to sacrifice for the greater good really is a coaching skill that shouldn’t be underestimated...
Not that I’m blaming Brad totally, but he gets a share...
Fam the Whole reason people even started this Black Gordon Hayward narrative in here... was because PG didn't look like the same player he was before injury, at the time he was looking like he lost a step & people were going on to say Hayward was better than him.
Any sub 6 footers with potential out there?
With IT getting washed Jj barea getting hurt it seems like there is no starting calibers one. I think there’s less than 5 in the league now.
Frank Mason
IT
Fred V he seems like hes 6’ tho