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Top 10 at his position all time
I'm with the rest but....
Top 10 all time pg??
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Top 10 at his position all time
Hakeem, Akeem, and Duncan were not "power players" by any stretch of the imagination. Trust me I watched Akeem and Hakeem's careers both versions of Olajuwon
While true and I've been saying the same thing, you can't be this degree of negative and not take the brunt of the blame. Especially when he's proven to be legit good albeit during the regular season post Capela trade. Harden will still get slandered regardless so nobody has to worry about thatDon't see how when Harden was the one that pushed for Russ in the first place.
Eh, they aren't expected to win. So it won't be anyone's "fault."
Sure,RW will be looked at funny for sure.
This, "Fault" stuff doesn't apply when your squad isn't expected to win.
Yea, the NUMBERS work in his favor.By the time Russ retires, he's probably going to be top 25 on the scoring list and somewhere between 10-12 on the assists list. Only other dudes to do that are Bron and Oscar.
Vegas had the Lakers as the favorite.Ahem, they were a 65% favorite to win this series by 538. NT's expert panel of basketball nerds also believe they would win this series.
I love the bench setup in the bubble (row, behind row, behind row) but that will never happen because it will cost too much to take those season tickets away.Didn't stop to think how liberal it's been in comparison to a regular fan-filled arena. Like you would never see that in a normal environment lol. I think it'd be hilarious if the benches kept this type of energy whenever arenas come back
He’s definitely out. This isn’t a Westbrook hate thing either, there’s clearly ten above him. And obviously you wouldn’t just look at the counting stats to compare across eras.RW might be on the outside looking in when it comes to Top 10 PGs of all time.
His numbers, if looking at JUST those, suggests he is.
But it isn't a guarantee or a "hands-down" thing at all.
he's always praised for trying so hard, yeah that's nice but basketball doesn't need you to play at full speed and tense all the time. It's like a running back who doesn't change pace or isn't patient.Another guy they said was better than Steph, because he was “all around”, a “dawg”, “goes hard on every possession”, “FINISHES AT THE RIM BETTER”, etc etc etc.
True trickster Russ is.
he's always praised for trying so hard, yeah that's nice but basketball doesn't need you to play at full speed and tense all the time. It's like a running back who doesn't change pace or isn't patient.
Nash is in there for sureYea, the NUMBERS work in his favor.
The perception doesn't.
Magic
Steph
Oscar
CP3
Stockton
Zeke
Kidd
GP (Maybe)
I doubt anything he does will make him a consensus better than anyone listed above.
Oh yea, I forgot about 538Ahem, they were a 65% favorite to win this series by 538. NT's expert panel of basketball nerds also believe they would win this series.
Agree about perception, but I think there are a lot of different arguments that can be made. Don't see how GP can be over Russ whatsoever. Russ scoring is just so far superior to the majority of that list.Yea, the NUMBERS work in his favor.
The perception doesn't.
Magic
Steph
Oscar
CP3
Stockton
Zeke
Kidd
GP (Maybe)
I doubt anything he does will make him a consensus better than anyone listed above.
Oscar and Bron been to the top tho. All Westbrook is is a stat stuffer.By the time Russ retires, he's probably going to be top 25 on the scoring list and somewhere between 10-12 on the assists list. Only other dudes to do that are Bron and Oscar.
Vegas had the Lakers as the favorite.
Yea, my fault. THought I listed Nash too.Nash is in there for sure
Then there's guys like Billups, Parker, Deron Williams
Then from this era and legacies not yet finished there's Dame, Kemba, Irving etc.
Tough
The Lakers aren’t an underdog here, no matter how you want to paint it. A “fair amount of people” doesn’t change that either.Nobody is talking about betting odds. Like the POR series was supposed to be there are a fair amount of ppl that believed this is a nightmare matchup for LA and ppl were picking HOU to win. Not going to change the narratives again after the fact.
Your last sentence is what it comes down toAgree about perception, but I think there are a lot of different arguments that can be made. Don't see how GP can be over Russ whatsoever. Russ scoring is just so far superior to the majority of that list.
Me personally, I don't want him on my team.