Official DragonBall Z Thread. R.I.P Akira Toriyama. You will be missed

[supersaiyangod]

It looks like Gohan lost his ability to go Mystic, but we see that in
the new DBS intro,

he meditates next to Piccolo and unlocks Mystic again.

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What i've noticed about Half-Saiyan/Half-Humans mixed breeds is
consistent with them all.

In the last episode of Z, it seems like Goten and Trunks
have stopped training/fighting for years (just like Gohan who
doesnt train or fight unless Earth is in danger)

Throughout Z, Gohan was always a corny little weakling
who had to get pushed into fighting. Piccolo was training a dude that was scared of eevrything

Gohan snapped here and there when he got angry..
But he was on Namek with a mushroom cut and still acting scary

He was this way until he trained with Goku in the hyperbolic time chamber
10 days before fighting Cell
His appearance changed and he looked tough
But even when facing Cell, he was saying how he didn't want to
harm Cell... and then when Cell crushed 16's head, Gohan snapped
and went ruthless... that's when his Saiyan idiotness kicked in as we've
seen it kick in both Goku and Vegeta plenty of times

Gohan was toying with Cell, and as a result, that ended up getting
Goku bodied by Cell's explosion.

Even after that, Gohan's guilt was hindering him from destroying
Cell. This guy is always an emotional wreck. Thankfully, Goku
resonates with Gohan's mind and got him to push his hardest.


The next 7 years, Gohan is basically not training or fighting
because everything is at peace... Vegeta and Goku note
how much weaker Gohan has gotten.

Same happens to Trunks and Gotten at the end of Z
after the 10 year skip... Everybody complains that
they haven't seen Goku in 5 years (around the Multiverse Tourny Arc aka Tournament of Power)

Vegeta says Trunks has become soft and hasnt been fighting or training
(like Gohan in the 7 year time skip pre-Buu/post-Cell)
Goten isn't any better- he wanted to skip the tournament that had
Uub in it because he had a date with some girl from school...


The Half-Human/Half-Saiyan thing is consistent

only exception is in an apocalyptic world
like Future Gohan and Future Trunks
I guess when there's a constant threat
and danger, the Saiyan blood kicks in more
in the halfies to ensure their survival

 

[frenchbreadbuilds]

I attribute it less being half human/Saiyan and more to upbringing. Both goku and vegeta grew up drastically different than their kids on earth. Vegeta was conquering planets and goku was fighting all kinds of threats, fighting was constantly apart of them growing up with no one to step in an save them when things got bad. Gohan didn't have it easy persay but he had a cushy life, and even more so for goten and trunks.

 

[supersaiyangod]

We were told that there were 18 universes
and Zeno destroyed 6 of them out of anger

There are 12 universes, and they are paired/twins of each other

U6 & U7 for example: Beerus & Champa

1 & 12
2 & 11
3 & 10
4 & 9
5 & 8
6 & 7

So far, this is what we know as to be confirmed:

? 1 & 12 ?
? 2 & 11 Clown
? 3 & 10 Elephant
? 4 & 9 Viking
? 5 & 8 ?
Champa 6 & 7 Beerus


Now, we saw the rest of the Gods of Destructions

•Mouse
•Cleopatra (or Egyptian Woman Deity)
•Fox/Coyote
•Full Face Furball
•Robot
•Salamander looking thing or some say a Bird looking thing
•Fish Face looking thing (Some say an Atlantis Amphibian God)

they say that all these gods of destruction are based on mythology

so with all that information in mind, I'm theorizing my pair/twin universes:

Trickster Gods
Known to come in the form of Jesters, Coyotes, and Foxes
This makes me pair the wolf/fox/coyote god with the Clown god
since the clown is 11, fox is 2

Elephant God
there's 1 in Hinduism called Ganesha
Ganesha has a companion Mouse
in some tales, they're kind of equivalent to yin & yan (duality)
since elephant is U10, mouse god of destruction is U3

Bearded Gods
I'm pairing U9's Viking God who has a big *** beard
with this furry *** short God whose face u cant see cuz he's covered in
fur. Im thinking theyre brothers cuz they both hairy as hell
also because i dont know what else to pair this furball with
and this one makes the most sense to me.. so furball is U4

Advanced Civilization Gods
This is a reach but.. Im pairing Cleopatra looking to Robot looking one
Ppl say Egyptians had advanced technology to build their pyramids
or whatever. I like the idea of pairing the robot with cleopatra. I cant see
the robot pairing up with anyone else IMO. As for numbers... no way to figure
this out but... Ancient Egyptian - 1, and Robotic Future - 12
the first shall be the last and the last shall be the first

American Continent Gods
This is a huge stretch, but
I heard someone say that Fish Face God could be like
an Atlantis God. Given that info... And me thinking
the other remaining god is a Salamander...
Salamanders are reptile/amphibian gods. They're like
water lizard gods. Fish and Lizards go together anyway.
Also, Mayan mythology, Quetzacoatl was a flying reptile god
and this god looks like a salamander or a bird
Which Q is basically both... A flying lizard. Atlantis would be In North America
as would Mayan civilization... so that's how I pair them up.
U5 & U8
doesnt matter which one is which
but ill put
Fish God U5 and Salamander/Bird God U8
(amphibians existed before birds, and I think Atlantis theoretically existed before Mayan Civilization)


Summary:


Egyptian Woman/Cleopatra 1 & 12 Robot
Fox/Coyote 2 & 11 Clown
Mouse 3 & 10 Elephant
Fuzzy face full of Furball 4 & 9 Viking
Fish Face 5 & 8 Salamander/Bird thing
Champa 6 & 7


What do you guys think the pairing are going to be?
and explain how you've paired them together



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I saw a video with someone pairing them up by
symbols on the god of destructions uniforms
but i didnt like it tbh.. just didnt feel right that
such different and non matching gods would be "twins"

Bold just got proven wrong


Universe 2 God of Destruction Revealed
It's the Cleopatra looking one
Her name is Helles which is a name of a beer
The God of Destruction alcoholic beverage name puns continue
Beerus/Beer
Champa/Champagne


Universe 2's pair universe is Universe 11

11 is the Clown God of Destruction

Also revealed: "The Pride Warriors"
Toppo is a warrior in U11 who wears the same outfit
as the guy with the white face and red costume
who fights Goku all over the DBS intro theme song

Could be possible that this character is part of
The Pride Warriors like the revealed "Toppo" is

 

[rico x hood]

Ima have to go with Jd on this one. They're the offspring of the two most powerful people on Earth. That let's them have the freedom to do whatever the hell they want. Especially with Goten and Gohan and having that psychopath as a mother. Honestly, I think we all can agree that she's the real culprit in why's Goten and Gohan are lazy when it comes to training.

And they may not show it a lot on screen but I'd wager that ChiChi is the same way with Trunks. And since Goku and Vegeta are essentially scared of their wives they probably don't even fight them on getting the half breeds to train more.

 

[supersaiyangod]

All Gods of Destruction revealed:

Spoiler

[spoilers]
U2 - Jerez or Heles (egyptian cleopatra)
U11 - Vermouth (clown)

U3 - Mosuko (the robot)
U10 - Ramoushi (elephant)


U5 - Arak (old scrawny looking thing.. either looks like a salamander or old mayan god looking thing)
U8 - Rikiru (the fox)

U6 - Champa
U7 - Beerus

U4 - Kitara (the mouse)
U9 - Sidra (the green barbarian with the orange beard)


U1 - Ivan (furball)
U12 - Genie/Gene/Gin (the fish atlantis looking thing)

[/spoilers]

 

[Chill Bill]

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[HankHill]

Liqueur, Gin and Vermouth look dope.

 

[supersaiyangod]

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Yellow text: "The Mysterious Warriors!!"

 

[drewsone]

I really like some of the designs of the Destroyers yo.

Also,
does anyone feel like they might "retcon" DBS to not be taking place before that last episode of Z?
So much stuff is about to happen lol

 

[supersaiyangod]

I really like some of the designs of the Destroyers yo.

Also,
does anyone feel like they might "retcon" DBS to not be taking place before that last episode of Z?
So much stuff is about to happen lol

Nah it's aligning well because

The realm that the universe is at is a place described as time not existing

and Bulma is pregnant with Bra, who was 4 or 5 years old at the end of Z

and we're 4 or 5 years before Z now

I THINK either of the following 2 things could happen:

1- If the ratings and audience interest aren't met, DBS stops after the Tourny of Power

2- If ratings and interest continue to soar... Tourny of Power ends,

and Super timeskips to after the end of Z, with Goku training Uub

 

[drewsone]

Ooooohh.

Time skip could work out..

I think DBS is doing pretty well though.

I mean Goku is a 2020 Olympic Ambassador lol

 

[PRIME]

Female LSSJ looking like bae

 

[drewsone]

Mystic Gohan looking slim haha

Female SSJ does look kinda dope.

 

[supersaiyangod]

Ooooohh.

Time skip could work out..

I think DBS is doing pretty well though.

I mean Goku is a 2020 Olympic Ambassador lol

it'd be a missed opportunity if DB ended before the Olympics

If the series is still running and they're showing Goku statues and ****

on worldwide TV at the olympics... huge Win.

Could have Olympics special episodes (filler) for a month

on break while they focus the bigger teams on the bigger arc ahead of that

 

[Chill Bill]

Gohan might be really coming back
No glasses
Heles is bae

 

[jays25]

I attribute it less being half human/Saiyan and more to upbringing. Both goku and vegeta grew up drastically different than their kids on earth. Vegeta was conquering planets and goku was fighting all kinds of threats, fighting was constantly apart of them growing up with no one to step in an save them when things got bad. Gohan didn't have it easy persay but he had a cushy life, and even more so for goten and trunks.

Pretty much.

 

[drewsone]

it'd be a missed opportunity if DB ended before the Olympics

If the series is still running and they're showing Goku statues and ****
on worldwide TV at the olympics... huge Win.


Could have Olympics special episodes (filler) for a month
on break while they focus the bigger teams on the bigger arc ahead of that

DBS Olympic games would be dope

 

[supersaiyangod]

Translated:

"stronger than ever!!"

looks like you gohan fans finally gathered up the dragonballs...

 
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Yellow text: "The Mysterious Warriors!!"

 

[drewsone]

He looks better with that single bang though lol

 

[chino905]

Translated:

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"stronger than ever!!"



looks like you gohan fans finally gathered up the dragonballs...

Yasss! Finally!!

 

[HankHill]

What possible arc should come after this? This dudes are up against some of the strongest fighters in the multiverse. Can't too many threats out there left. Probably a war between the angels, Kais, gods etc. or maybe some other world villains like the movie.

 

[the qbz]

Im behind when did the new arc start post trunks

 

[supersaiyangod]

What possible arc should come after this? This dudes are up against some of the strongest fighters in the multiverse. Can't too many threats out there left. Probably a war between the angels, Kais, gods etc. or maybe some other world villains like the movie.

There's a few things I can think of that have been left open-ended:

—Universe 10's Gowasu put Goku Black/Zamasu's time ring in a box
All the time rings in that box are green
except for one which is grey. That's how that arc ended... and I think that could be
revisited later on.

—Future Trunks and Future Mai are sent into a different Future
where another Trunks and Mai already exist. How is that universe
doing with 2 versions of them? How are the future Gods feeling about it?

—The latest character that was unveiled on Super's website is an
Universe 11 Warrior (Toppo) who is described as being so powerful that he's
being recruited as the next God of Destruction of his universe (to replace The Clown whose name is Vermouth)

Which means that it could happen in U7 too... Beerus having to resign and
give the title to either Goku or Vegeta. Or maybe later down the line (after a timeskip)
Goku trains Uub and presents him to Beerus to make him the new god of destruction

—Maybe the Dragon of the Super Dragonballs gets into beef with Shenron and Porunga (Namek Dragon)

—Cabba told Vegeta that there's somebody on Planet Salad in U6
that reminds him of Vegeta. Vegeta said that he'd like to meet him
one day.

—Since Zamasu was an enemy from Universe 10, it's
totally possible that foes from other universes could cause
problems... Or Kais get corrupt, and start fusioning and stuff like that

—Having a Future Zeno and a Present Zeno could end up being
problematic, and maybe entice something where everybody gets lost
into different timelines (Remember Chrono Trigger? Which Akira Toriyama
was involved in. When Lavos goes ham in the Ancient Civilization's time,
he blows mad people away into different times. Magus was sent to the dark ages,
the old man was sent to the end of time, etc)

—Maybe Goku becomes a lunatic as he gets older
to the point where Beerus has to kill him


By the way,
I've noticed that this "Multiversal Tournament"
idea was explored in a fan-made Dragon Ball Spinoff
like 6 years ago.

Don't forget that Toyotarou is the guy that invented
Dragonball AF, and Toriyama found his work so
similar to his that he got him for the manga

So keep an eye out on all these fan-made things
Because Dragonball the series could get influenced by the fans

(There's a fanmade one that got Goku to get his body
taken over by somebody else and Uub had to kill Goku
Super dark and grimy)

 

[supersaiyangod]

By the way,
I've noticed that this "Multiversal Tournament"
idea was explored in a fan-made Dragon Ball Spinoff
like 6 years ago.

Don't forget that Toyotarou is the guy that invented
Dragonball AF, and Toriyama found his work so
similar to his that he got him for the manga

So keep an eye out on all these fan-made things
Because Dragonball the series could get influenced by the fans

(There's a fanmade one that got Goku to get his body
taken over by somebody else and Uub had to kill Goku
Super dark and grimy)

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[AIR J XIII]

What possible arc should come after this? This dudes are up against some of the strongest fighters in the multiverse. Can't too many threats out there left. Probably a war between the angels, Kais, gods etc. or maybe some other world villains like the movie.

—Cabba told Vegeta that there's somebody on Planet Salad in U6
that reminds him of Vegeta. Vegeta said that he'd like to meet him
one day.

This is what I want, more saiyan backstory Maybe they will get a chance to go during the tournament when neither is fighting.