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Stop using us. That would be a start.Originally Posted by acidicality
I'm really confused, what are you debating with us about?
The other guy is irrelevant because he's not even part of your "demographics."
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Stop using us. That would be a start.Originally Posted by acidicality
I'm really confused, what are you debating with us about?
Never had a problem with you really. I mean if you don't care about the past because basketball wasn't important back then, I can't do anything about that. We can agree to disagree.Originally Posted by bijald0331
I only care because it's a great story. I have admitted I am an Indian, play basketball regularly, go to a top-tier institution (we don't produce NBA players either) and believe I hold my own on the court when I'm not expected to, all factors that make this story even more relevant to me. (I'm playing with NTers tomorrow at 11am here in NYC)
I just don't get what there is to discredit here. He isn't being overhyped as an All-star player. I don't see that anywhere.
I gtg to sleep so I'll continue this tomorrow. Hopefully there will be more colorful banter that I can shoot down
I heard about Wat Misaka the same time Yao Ming was drafted by the Rockets.Originally Posted by KB8isCLUTCH
question to those that bring up wat misaka and raymond townsend. was this previous knowledge to you guys or did you look it up out of curiosity on the topic at hand?
Never had a problem with you really. I mean if you don't care about the past because basketball wasn't important back then, I can't do anything about that. We can agree to disagree.Originally Posted by bijald0331
I only care because it's a great story. I have admitted I am an Indian, play basketball regularly, go to a top-tier institution (we don't produce NBA players either) and believe I hold my own on the court when I'm not expected to, all factors that make this story even more relevant to me. (I'm playing with NTers tomorrow at 11am here in NYC)
I just don't get what there is to discredit here. He isn't being overhyped as an All-star player. I don't see that anywhere.
I gtg to sleep so I'll continue this tomorrow. Hopefully there will be more colorful banter that I can shoot down
I heard about Wat Misaka the same time Yao Ming was drafted by the Rockets.Originally Posted by KB8isCLUTCH
question to those that bring up wat misaka and raymond townsend. was this previous knowledge to you guys or did you look it up out of curiosity on the topic at hand?
goukiteg wrote:
I don't think you'll understand unless you are ASIAN-AMERICAN how important this is. We grew up much like Jeremy Lin
withall the stereotypes surrounding Asians in sports in America and this JLhas already somewhat made it. We aren't rooting for him simply
becausehe's Asian and want him to do well, but because he has shown that it ispossible for Asian-Americans to make it. He goes against
society'sview of Asians as nerdy, unassuming, passive group of people. He's openthe door for Asian-Americans kids and gives them someone to look up to.They can look at JL and say, "Hey, that can be me on out there too."You don't have to be a doctor, lawyer or engineer to succeed. You canfollow your dreams.
goukiteg wrote:
I don't think you'll understand unless you are ASIAN-AMERICAN how important this is. We grew up much like Jeremy Lin
withall the stereotypes surrounding Asians in sports in America and this JLhas already somewhat made it. We aren't rooting for him simply
becausehe's Asian and want him to do well, but because he has shown that it ispossible for Asian-Americans to make it. He goes against
society'sview of Asians as nerdy, unassuming, passive group of people. He's openthe door for Asian-Americans kids and gives them someone to look up to.They can look at JL and say, "Hey, that can be me on out there too."You don't have to be a doctor, lawyer or engineer to succeed. You canfollow your dreams.
Originally Posted by acidicality
How ironic for you to say I've been wildin', when you've been the one bringing nothing positive to this thread (maybe besides bringing up the facts about previous Asians playing in the league) and just attacking how I'm saying that I speak for a good majority of Asian-Americans around my way....that has nothing to do with the topic at hand, and you're just arguing for the sake of arguing.
How do you feel about Jeremy Lin's "impact on Asian-Americans" to begin with? And are you Asian? If you started there, maybe you would have sounded more intelligent. Nothing in your arguments have had anything about that.
And while I'm at it, I'll pull this quote, because this basically sums it all up, and I don't have to say anything more:
goukiteg wrote:
I don't think you'll understand unless you are ASIAN-AMERICAN how important this is. We grew up much like Jeremy Lin
withall the stereotypes surrounding Asians in sports in America and this JLhas already somewhat made it. We aren't rooting for him simply
becausehe's Asian and want him to do well, but because he has shown that it ispossible for Asian-Americans to make it. He goes against
society'sview of Asians as nerdy, unassuming, passive group of people. He's openthe door for Asian-Americans kids and gives them someone to look up to.They can look at JL and say, "Hey, that can be me on out there too."You don't have to be a doctor, lawyer or engineer to succeed. You canfollow your dreams.
Originally Posted by acidicality
How ironic for you to say I've been wildin', when you've been the one bringing nothing positive to this thread (maybe besides bringing up the facts about previous Asians playing in the league) and just attacking how I'm saying that I speak for a good majority of Asian-Americans around my way....that has nothing to do with the topic at hand, and you're just arguing for the sake of arguing.
How do you feel about Jeremy Lin's "impact on Asian-Americans" to begin with? And are you Asian? If you started there, maybe you would have sounded more intelligent. Nothing in your arguments have had anything about that.
And while I'm at it, I'll pull this quote, because this basically sums it all up, and I don't have to say anything more:
goukiteg wrote:
I don't think you'll understand unless you are ASIAN-AMERICAN how important this is. We grew up much like Jeremy Lin
withall the stereotypes surrounding Asians in sports in America and this JLhas already somewhat made it. We aren't rooting for him simply
becausehe's Asian and want him to do well, but because he has shown that it ispossible for Asian-Americans to make it. He goes against
society'sview of Asians as nerdy, unassuming, passive group of people. He's openthe door for Asian-Americans kids and gives them someone to look up to.They can look at JL and say, "Hey, that can be me on out there too."You don't have to be a doctor, lawyer or engineer to succeed. You canfollow your dreams.
the only problem i see is that people took offense to the way his performance against john wall was described "owning John Wall, John Wall who?, JL > JW, etc...". But those that were following him and even saw that game, know that performance probably gained him a contract. Don't know why people are getting mad over John Wall anyways, even to the point they think the performance was overhyped, but they don't understand his significance to Asian-Americans(If they've read all these pages and still don't understand then so be it, but the length of it alone should demonstrate it's importance). Besides, I think most people were just having fun with the aftermath of JL vs JW. But in reality, he could have been abused by Wall, and people would have said he was a scrub, JL would have been off to Europe, and this post would have disappeared, but he did the opposite and played his best when it counted.Originally Posted by bijald0331
I just don't get what there is to discredit here. He isn't being overhyped as an All-star player. I don't see that anywhere.
the only problem i see is that people took offense to the way his performance against john wall was described "owning John Wall, John Wall who?, JL > JW, etc...". But those that were following him and even saw that game, know that performance probably gained him a contract. Don't know why people are getting mad over John Wall anyways, even to the point they think the performance was overhyped, but they don't understand his significance to Asian-Americans(If they've read all these pages and still don't understand then so be it, but the length of it alone should demonstrate it's importance). Besides, I think most people were just having fun with the aftermath of JL vs JW. But in reality, he could have been abused by Wall, and people would have said he was a scrub, JL would have been off to Europe, and this post would have disappeared, but he did the opposite and played his best when it counted.Originally Posted by bijald0331
I just don't get what there is to discredit here. He isn't being overhyped as an All-star player. I don't see that anywhere.