Official LA Clippers Offseason Thread

[jepeh21]

Originally Posted by Div1LBC

Originally Posted by BangDak

a lot of clippers fan now...
ive never seen a bunch of you guys before griffin was drafted

once again, im disappointed in this team. really want to see this team suceed...

A lot of the same guys were here before, we just didn't have much to talk about during last year's disaster season.

I've always been a Clipper fan ever since I moved to LA ten years ago, I can't stand the Lakers! been rooting for the clips since theKeith Closs days

 

[k rods slider]

Originally Posted by jepeh21

Originally Posted by Div1LBC

Originally Posted by BangDak

a lot of clippers fan now...
ive never seen a bunch of you guys before griffin was drafted

once again, im disappointed in this team. really want to see this team suceed...

A lot of the same guys were here before, we just didn't have much to talk about during last year's disaster season.

I've always been a Clipper fan ever since I moved to LA ten years ago, I can't stand the Lakers! been rooting for the clips since the Keith Closs days

Most of us are familiar with each other from other boards, so we don't have to justify being "post-Griffin-era" fans.

As for the game:

+ Gordon
+ Bench (Bassy + Butler + Smith)
+ Kaman solid
- Baron = MIA
- Thorton (never liked him) makes Maggette's shot selection look beautiful
- Sloppy/dumb turnovers x202918302983

With that being said, PHO tonight, let's get em!

 

[mjshoefanatic]

Griffin Plans To Be Patient With Knee

Clippers rookie forward Blake Griffin is going to be patient in his return from a broken left kneecap.

He will miss up to six weeks with the stress fracture, which could delay his NBA debut until mid-December.

"It's disappointing, especially when it happened, but I'm not going to feel sorry for myself," Griffin told the Associated Press on Tuesday. "Everybody plays with a certain amount of pain, but it is a fine line, because you do want to take care of your body and make it easier on yourself."

Clippers coach Mike Dunleavy said that the forward could play through the injury, but it wouldn't heal.

"He could play on it, but it won't get better," Dunleavy said. "Once that became apparent, there was no question: Let's shut it down. Him playing at a lesser level isn't going to do us much good."

Via ESPN

 

[jepeh21]

yup, that's a great idea, he should never rush coming back and further damage the knee, he's only a rookie and as much as the team wants top win now,he should sit out as long as it takes until his knee is a 100%, we want blake healthy and have a long career with the clips

 

[patent leather]

Look at the bright side....

Stimulation and Platelet Rich Plasma (PRP), according to the Clippers:

Los Angeles Clippers' rookie forward Blake Griffin suffered a non-displaced stress fracture of his left patella during the Clippers' last preseason game vs. the New Orleans Hornets on Friday, October 23rd.

Griffin, who underwent an MRI yesterday which confirmed the diagnosis, was examined by both team physician Dr. Steven Shimoyama as well as specialist Dr. Neal ElAttrache. Based on communication between the two physicians, it has been determined that Griffin will be sidelined for approximately six weeks.

During this time Griffin will receive bone stimulation and PRP (Platelet Rich Plasma) treatment.

Griffin originally suffered a bruised left patella during practice on Thursday, September 24th and was eventually cleared to resume full basketball activity.


Alan Schwarz, who's done some excellent work for Slate, among other outlets, wrote this piece on PRP for the New York Times in February. Recent recipients of PRP treatment include Hines Ward, Troy Polamalu and Takashi Saito (ElAttrache, who's on the Griffin team, administered PRP to Saito).

Here's Schwarz's basic description of PRP:

The method, which is strikingly straightforward and easy to perform, centers on injecting portions of a patient's blood directly into the injured area, which catalyzes the body's instincts to repair muscle, bone and other tissue. Most enticing, many doctors said, is that the technique appears to help regenerate ligament and tendon fibers, which could shorten rehabilitation time and possibly obviate surgery.


According to Schwarz's piece, PRP is still a relatively experimental treatment, but one that's been particularly successful with athletes. Ward, Polamalu and Saito each came back to perform extremely well, extremely quickly.

 

[laridah23]

Originally Posted by jepeh21

yup, that's a great idea, he should never rush coming back and further damage the knee, he's only a rookie and as much as the team wants top win now, he should sit out as long as it takes until his knee is a 100%, we want blake healthy and have a long career with the clips

Agree 100%.

Looking forward to tonight's game.

Even though we lost last night, I saw a great deal of positives. Everyone played great with the exception of BD

.

Thornton still needs to improve his shot selection though.

 

[mjshoefanatic]

Griffin's injury nothing like calamities of Clippers' past

Posted Oct 28 2009 2:43PM

LOS ANGELES -- Blake Griffin could be out six weeks with a stress fracture in his left kneecap, and this can only mean the Clippers are cursed, doomed to an eternity of nosing pebbles up impossibly steep hills, jinxed beyond mortal comprehension, banished yet again to the great below.

Or not.

Chasing ghosts can be great fun, but the actual impact of the Griffin injury in the non-spiritual world is that it's a bad couple of months for the No. 1 pick and the Clippers, but nothing like some past calamities.

Danny Manning, the Clippers' No. 1 pick in 1988, may also have been -- like Griffin -- the top selection in the draft, the reigning college Player of the Year, and he may also have hurt his knee on a seemingly innocuous play.

But Manning lost a little more than half his rookie season at a time when a torn anterior cruciate ligament put a career in jeopardy. Plus, Manning was the center of hope in the Clippers' then-dismal universe. Ron Harper tore his knee up in 1990, but that was particularly crushing because the Clips were proving upwardly mobile in a season of great promise, unlike, say, these Clippers. And ex-Clipper draftee Shaun Livingston jammed his knee through a sausage grinder with such force in 2007 that the team physician at the time, one of the most experienced sports doctors in the country, said he had never seen anything like it.

Griffin out six to eight weeks, at the start of the season, is nowhere near those past follies. Especially in a season in which the Clippers are capable of missing the playoffs even with perfect health and one in which Griffin isn't even the starting power forward. Marcus Camby is, though with the certainty that the versatile Griffin was going to get major minutes either at small forward or at his natural position (and bump Camby or Chris Kaman to center).

The dark clouds beginning to gather are more about what could happen, because there are negative implications. This is not the way to start a terribly important season for the Clippers, one that may determine whether they stay with the veteran roster of Baron Davis, Camby and Kaman or junk it and hit the youth thing harder. That's the first potential fallout. The worry is the Clips and their previously shaky chemistry could break slow from the gate, get down, lose some more, and decide to shop the coveted Camby and his expiring contract before the trade deadline.

Either way, it's more dispiriting news for a roster that hasn't handled its frustrations well in the past. The Clippers are down a key part of the rotation and that much closer to losing now, which could stretch through to January. It's not like Griffin will return to the lineup at full speed, and continued losses have a tendency to lead to change. That's a lot of dominoes in play.

The impact on Griffin is that he missed part of summer league with a strained shoulder and missed part of training camp with a sore knee before averaging 13.7 points and 8.1 rebounds in 28 minutes while playing in seven of a possible eight exhibition games. Now he's on a timeline to sit out the first 20 games or so of his rookie season. Griffin is not just missing playing time. He's missing learning-curve time that is important for a first-year player facing so many expectations.

"I don't think there's going to be any setback at all," coach Mike Dunleavy countered. "He's the most advanced rookie I have ever had in terms of knowing your stuff, mentally, IQ-wise, for what he's supposed to be doing and picking up on your defensive rotations, your coverages, your play sets. When we came in the first day, he knew all the plays he's supposed to know from both [power forward] and [small forward]. That's why he was able to play the way he played in preseason for us.

"The fact is, with Marcus Camby getting injured and being out for a period of time, when Blake got a chance to start and play big minutes, there should be no question in his mind what he's capable of doing. He's played against good teams. He's played against the Lakers, he's played against the Spurs. He's played against [Tim] Duncan, [Antonio] McDyess, [Andrew] Bynum. A lot of really good players. He's played against big teams and small teams. So I don't think it's a setback at all once he comes back healthy."

In the meantime, DeAndre Jordan and Craig Smith are in line for Griffin's minutes in an unexpected career break. There goes any potential, though, for a compelling Camby-Griffin position battle anytime soon. Along with it goes a key piece of the Clippers' planned versatility, the chance for the most NBA-ready of all rookies to develop on schedule and whatever good mojo the Clips could have used to whip into the season.

The talk of curses, that still remains.

via NBA.com

 

[patent leather]

Originally Posted by LARidah23

Originally Posted by jepeh21

yup, that's a great idea, he should never rush coming back and further damage the knee, he's only a rookie and as much as the team wants top win now, he should sit out as long as it takes until his knee is a 100%, we want blake healthy and have a long career with the clips

Agree 100%.

Looking forward to tonight's game.

Even though we lost last night, I saw a great deal of positives. Everyone played great with the exception of BD

.

Thornton still needs to improve his shot selection though.

A win tonight would really feel good

I'm expecting BDiddy to bounce back and have a big game tonight. Very disappointing

 

[i nasmatic i]

Not a Clippers fan by any means, but I think they should trade one of their centers (Camby being the most likely with his expiring contract) for a startingsmall forward (Battier or Prince?).

Thornton is too one dimensional and erratic and Butler isn't quite starter material (though I like him).

 

[micheal623]

Lets go clippers.

 

[mjshoefanatic]

^ Personally, I'd prefer we go after Joe Johnson in the offseason and deal everyone else not named Gordon, Griffin, Butler, Kaman, Jordan or Smith.

 

[k rods slider]

Originally Posted by mjshoefanatic

^ Personally, I'd prefer we go after Joe Johnson in the offseason and deal everyone else not named Gordon, Griffin, Butler, Kaman, Jordan or Smith.

I agree. And I also agree that either Camby or Kaman has to be traded...of course it'll be Camby.

BDiddy better show up tonight.

 

[bangdak]

that comment wasnt necessarily any shots at anyone, just a general statement.
sorry if it offended anyone

imo, i rather trade kaman and let cambys contract run out so they can have cap space. maybe draft a project, and sign a serviceable player for the time being.

 

[k rods slider]

Originally Posted by BangDak

that comment wasnt necessarily any shots at anyone, just a general statement.
sorry if it offended anyone

imo, i rather trade kaman and let cambys contract run out so they can have cap space. maybe draft a project, and sign a serviceable player for the time being.

No hard feelings.

Let this be known: I do not like Al Thornton.

 

[dako akong otin]

Kaman looked pretty good and mobile. Clips shouldn't trade him

 

[marath0n]

Barbosa....smh

 

[bigmike23]

did camby really shoot a 3 like he was Zach Randolph? SMFH

 

[physicx]

butler

edit - nash

shaping up to be a great finish

 

[fundamental21ticket]

NASHTY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[japanair21]

Great shot by Rasual, that dude always hits big shots.

HERE WE GO!

NASH THE MAGICIAN WITH THE CIRCUS SHOT.

 

[k rods slider]

New year, same team.

0-2

Next game, Utah....

 

[marath0n]

Originally Posted by BangDak

a lot of clippers fan now...
ive never seen a bunch of you guys before griffin was drafted

once again, im disappointed in this team. really want to see this team suceed...

??????????

 

[japanair21]

Good win for the Suns, Amare with smothering D.

 

[bigmike23]

we can wave the white flag on clippers as a sleeper team talk RIGHT NOW

 

[holdenmichael]

Wow, is that really how the NBA game is played? He flopped two plays in a row. That was horrible. Should've gone to Butler again.