Official Lakers vs. Spurs 5/27 Game 4 9:00 ET on TNT

[8tothe24]

Originally Posted by akajaedeuce

Originally Posted by bright nikes

Whatever, a WINS a WIN!

But, Lakers should have lost that game.

what are you talking about?

Drinking Hator-Aid while watching the game.

 

[noblekane]

Originally Posted by Sriracha Hot Sauce

Originally Posted by 23ska909red02

Sriracha Hot Sauce:

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Please, tell me this, WHY do you have to SELL a foul call that was CLEARLY a foul? That wasn't even questionable, it wasnt a flop, Barry didnt cause the contact, Fisher got faked out by a ball fake, and jumped into Barry. Thats a foul, when a defensive player makes contact being faked out. Why you think offensive players use the ball fake? Its either a foul or not. Saying that Barry didnt sell it the foul is completely ******ed.

ANSWER THIS QUESTION: WAS IT A FOUL OR NOT? NO IF, ANDS, BUTS. ITS A YES OR NO QUESTION. AND YES, THAT WAS CLEARLY A FOUL

SHUGES:

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I 1000000 percent agree. But hey, dudes have on yellow-tinted glasses and just won't call it like it is. I could give two %#!+@ what Barkley or Reggie or anyone else has to say. THAT WAS A FOUL. Come on now. Since when do you pump fake, someone falls for your pump, yet you don't get the call? You have to SELL it?

If anything, say that you're glad the refs didn't call that particular foul in the closing seconds of a tight game. But I think most of you are insulting a lot of people's intelligence by saying that it was NOT a foul.

And for the record, I don't believe in conspiracy theories in the NBA. But it was pretty dumb to have Crawford ref this game. Why not put him in the ECF instead?

@ co-signing the opinion of some random NTer that you don't even know, but disregarding the opinions of two HALL OF FAMERS

Keep hating my squad, bro.

Like I said...
... Kobe: zero free throws. I'm sure you're good with that.
... Pop said he wouldn't call that a foul. (Oh that's right, you don't care what anyone says... UNLESS it's some random NTer who happens to agree with your anti-Laker opinion. THEN you care what someone esle says, and you co-sign 1000 percent.

)
... Brent Barry said he wouldn't call that a foul.
... THAT CALL SHOULD NEVER, EVER, EVER BE MADE, IN ANY GAME, AT ANY TIME, EVER. You can't jump into your defender's space and have it be a foul. If the defender jumps into your space, that's a foul. IF YOU HAVE TO MOVE FROM YOUR SOT AND GO SIDEWAYS OR FORWARDS OR DIAGONAL OR BACKWARDS IN ORDER TO CREATE CONTACT, IT SHOULD NEVER BE CALLED A FOUL. EVER. You are allowed YOUR IMMEDIATE POSITION, not the position of all airspace around you.

Random? LOL. Ive been here JUST as long as you Ska. Don't let the post count fool you, but my first usermame, that isnt banned has been around since early days.

-With that being said, Im not going to fight and argue with laker fans because it is worthless. But, when has Pop or any Spurs team EVER complain about a call after a game? They won't say that was a foul. They don't complain, you should know that by now. They are a no excuse team. PERIOD.
-Phil Jackson said that they missed the call.

-What I don't understand, is WHY do you have to SELL a call? Lebron, Kobe, Wade, etc wouldn't have to sell that call. A foul is a foul. Its pretty much YES or NO. There's no in between calls for fouls. That was a Foul, straight up.

-Again, I dont know what to say about NBA conspiracies or whatever, but it seems that the end of many Laker games always have VERY questionable calls, that include fouls. Laker fans, that forsure you can't deny.





oh thats a foul....nobody is disputing that....BUT.....its a foul that will NEVER be called in a playoff game unless your name is Larry Johnson....

So is it really a foul? Hmmmmmm??? Another conspiracy theory?

 

[ourtran]

does anyone have the link to the website that has all of the laker highlights?

 

[tsamshox]

I'm not even gonna touch this post with a 10ft pole....dudes will just get me rilled up

 

[tdnetbk]

http://www.lakersmedia.com/

^son does work. like hrs after the game is finished hd clips and the whole package are up....but not today....so hell problary put it up 2morrow....

 

[MVP]

Originally Posted by ourtran

does anyone have the link to the website that has all of the laker highlights?

here you go, but Game 4 isn't up yet: http://www.lakersmedia.com/
Glad I TiVo'd this one though, just another Lakers/Spurs classic filled with controversy.

 

[knightngale]

Originally Posted by denni5themenace

Originally Posted by knightngale

this thread was at 12 pages during the 4th quarter

I admit that it was a foul. However, I think kobe was fouled on his "quick shot" by Duncan and COUNTLESS OTHER TIMES DURING THESE 2 ROAD GAMES so %@+% the refs.

I think lamar had a clean block but he at the same time could have been called for a foul on that play. Ginobili's 3 was damn near a 2 pointer or I must be blind. Fisher's shot hit the rim.

This not mentioning all the calls the Spurs got before that, like the blocking foul on Odom

. Duncan taking four steps on that one dunk

. Horry fouling Lamar or Gasol on most defensive rebounds and not getting called for anything during every game

.

The Spurs have no right to complain cause they would not be in this series at all if not for the refs.

I gotta give props to lamar for coming through in the clutch

Kobe was our constant and kept us in the game the whole time but he gotta stop acting like KG in the clutch

so does that mean youre back on the bandwagon?

when was I out? You mean when you as the laker owner banned me from being a lakers fan? foh

 

[ourtran]

nevermind i found it www.lakersmedia.com

"thanks up there^ i was googling it and when i came back i didnt see your guys' post."

 

[noblekane]

Originally Posted by tSamShoX

I'm not even gonna touch this post with a 10ft pole....dudes will just get me rilled up

do it kings fan....... DOOOOO IT....

 

[denni5themenace]

Originally Posted by knightngale

Originally Posted by denni5themenace

Originally Posted by knightngale

this thread was at 12 pages during the 4th quarter

I admit that it was a foul. However, I think kobe was fouled on his "quick shot" by Duncan and COUNTLESS OTHER TIMES DURING THESE 2 ROAD GAMES so %@+% the refs.

I think lamar had a clean block but he at the same time could have been called for a foul on that play. Ginobili's 3 was damn near a 2 pointer or I must be blind. Fisher's shot hit the rim.

This not mentioning all the calls the Spurs got before that, like the blocking foul on Odom

. Duncan taking four steps on that one dunk

. Horry fouling Lamar or Gasol on most defensive rebounds and not getting called for anything during every game

.

The Spurs have no right to complain cause they would not be in this series at all if not for the refs.

I gotta give props to lamar for coming through in the clutch

Kobe was our constant and kept us in the game the whole time but he gotta stop acting like KG in the clutch

so does that mean youre back on the bandwagon?

when was I out? You mean when you as the laker owner banned me from being a lakers fan? foh

yes, i am citizen's arresting your fanhood.

knightngale wrote:

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[color= rgb(255, 0, 0)]we just probably lost our chance at the finals by playing garbage this game[/color]

a lineup headed by lamar scrotum and the bench will not get it done on the road
NEVER leave odom to lead an offense on the road

Phil did this TWICE...those Kobe 3 pointers would have meant something had the lead been 10 isntead of 18 after his "odom leading the scrubs" strategy

Phil gets a

Then Pau getting dominated by Duncan
there was this play when even when Duncan was nowhere near him, GAsol went up for a rebound MAD soft...he tripped on himself lost the ball AND then went to get it
that disgusting

[color= rgb(255, 0, 0)]and then all those gay flip shots off Kobe's passes[/color]

soft offense and soft defense FTMFL

Odom was shut down by horry's corpse. That is all that is need to be said.
[color= rgb(255, 0, 0)]Dude will never be all star level cause of his garbage jumper and free throws and weak mentality.[/color]

Fisher was garbage too but I expect some garbage nights from a jump shooter that guards parker

Did Luke Walton do anything positive out there???? I think Ariza did more in 3 min than Luke all game long. Why not play Ariza Phil?

Kobe was

for the most part

[color= rgb(255, 0, 0)]I shall look forward to next year when Ariza makes Walton's minute go down by 100% and Bynum makes Gasol become a bench player[/color]

[color= rgb(255, 0, 0)]west+chandler>odom+gasol[/color]

 

[knightngale]

Originally Posted by denni5themenace

Originally Posted by knightngale

Originally Posted by denni5themenace

Originally Posted by knightngale

this thread was at 12 pages during the 4th quarter

I admit that it was a foul. However, I think kobe was fouled on his "quick shot" by Duncan and COUNTLESS OTHER TIMES DURING THESE 2 ROAD GAMES so %@+% the refs.

I think lamar had a clean block but he at the same time could have been called for a foul on that play. Ginobili's 3 was damn near a 2 pointer or I must be blind. Fisher's shot hit the rim.

This not mentioning all the calls the Spurs got before that, like the blocking foul on Odom

. Duncan taking four steps on that one dunk

. Horry fouling Lamar or Gasol on most defensive rebounds and not getting called for anything during every game

.

The Spurs have no right to complain cause they would not be in this series at all if not for the refs.

I gotta give props to lamar for coming through in the clutch

Kobe was our constant and kept us in the game the whole time but he gotta stop acting like KG in the clutch

so does that mean youre back on the bandwagon?

when was I out? You mean when you as the laker owner banned me from being a lakers fan? foh

yes, i am citizen's arresting your fanhood.

knightngale wrote:

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[color= rgb(255, 0, 0)]we just probably lost our chance at the finals by playing garbage this game[/color]

a lineup headed by lamar scrotum and the bench will not get it done on the road
NEVER leave odom to lead an offense on the road

Phil did this TWICE...those Kobe 3 pointers would have meant something had the lead been 10 isntead of 18 after his "odom leading the scrubs" strategy

Phil gets a

Then Pau getting dominated by Duncan
there was this play when even when Duncan was nowhere near him, GAsol went up for a rebound MAD soft...he tripped on himself lost the ball AND then went to get it
that disgusting

[color= rgb(255, 0, 0)]and then all those gay flip shots off Kobe's passes[/color]

soft offense and soft defense FTMFL

Odom was shut down by horry's corpse. That is all that is need to be said.
[color= rgb(255, 0, 0)]Dude will never be all star level cause of his garbage jumper and free throws and weak mentality.[/color]

Fisher was garbage too but I expect some garbage nights from a jump shooter that guards parker

Did Luke Walton do anything positive out there???? I think Ariza did more in 3 min than Luke all game long. Why not play Ariza Phil?

Kobe was

for the most part

[color= rgb(255, 0, 0)]I shall look forward to next year when Ariza makes Walton's minute go down by 100% and Bynum makes Gasol become a bench player[/color]

[color= rgb(255, 0, 0)]west+chandler>odom+gasol[/color]

other than the first line when I said PROBABLY

other than the first line when I said PROBABLY
the rest is true

you are citizen's arresting fanhood? +%*

EDIT: also gasol will never be a bench player either

 

[denni5themenace]

^ i was being sarcastic.

but you are OD on your comments about how trash 'your team' is.
chandler + west > gasol + odom? really? no.

walton makes bonehead plays, but who doesn't on the roster? he's been playing well this post season.
gasol is what it is. gasol on the bench? you rather we have that bum kwame on our squad? ungrateful.

and look at your

once odom doesn't play like trash.

 

[darthska]

Sriracha Hot Sauce:

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Random? LOL. Ive been here JUST as long as you Ska. Don't let the post count fool you, but my first usermame, that isnt banned has been around since early days.

-With that being said, Im not going to fight and argue with laker fans because it is worthless. But, when has Pop or any Spurs team EVER complain about a call after a game? They won't say that was a foul. They don't complain, you should know that by now. They are a no excuse team. PERIOD.
-Phil Jackson said that they missed the call.

-What I don't understand, is WHY do you have to SELL a call? Lebron, Kobe, Wade, etc wouldn't have to sell that call. A foul is a foul. Its pretty much YES or NO. There's no in between calls for fouls. That was a Foul, straight up.

-Again, I dont know what to say about NBA conspiracies or whatever, but it seems that the end of many Laker games always have VERY questionable calls, that include fouls. Laker fans, that forsure you can't deny.
First off, my fault if it sounded like I was disrespecting you or anything by saying 'some random NTer'. I didn't mean it like'some worthless, no-good, annoying noob'. I simply meant that I'm sure you and SHUGES don't have any idea in the world who each other are.I'm pretty sure you guys could sit right next to each other at a sporting event, not even know it, go home and post about the event on NikeTalk, and noteven know that you were right next to each other. THAT'S what I meant when I was saying 'So you're going to agree with some random NTer over twoHall of Famers?'

My fault for making it sound the way it did, though.

Second, you actually bring up a good point that I will most definitely agree with: if WE were down 2 and KOBE was in Barry's exact spot and a Spur was inFisher's exact spot, a foul is called on the Spur and Kobe is going to the line.

HOWEVER, I will say this: I have always said that have always hated that call, because I have always hated that call.

But I agree with when you say that players like LeBron, Kobe, or Wade wouldn't have to worry about selling the call.

And I didn't see where Phil Jackson said they missed the call. I saw where he said there was contact, but that the refs missed the Fisher shot that hit therim and caused us to have to force up a forced shot with only a second on the shot clock coming out of the timeout, despite there being around 5 second left inthe game. He was saying they missed that.

 

[skips kicks]

ahhhh the hate.....basking in it......

 

[da xplicit one]

That wasn't a foul and here's the number one reason why:
He pivoted with his right foot down, and then when fish came before fish "bumped" him, he moved his pivot foot and used his left foot as his pivot,so he clearly traveled before he got bumped.
Anyways, Odom didn't goaltend, the ball didn't hit the backboard yet, and Fish's shot hit the rim. The refs called so many things in favor of theSpurs.

So many ppl lookin for the foul yet didn't see him change his pivot foot

Plus he got bumped, then dribbled, then shot... that happens to many most shots in the NBA thus no foul but regardless, he traveled prior to the"bump".

 

[sohi 23]

Originally Posted by true 3 blue

Its amazing how many suspect calls the refs made (or didn't make) in favor of the Spurs, YET some are focusing on a single play that ended the game.

Saw it coming a mile away.

What do you expect?
It's the Lakers

No one makes a call like to decide a game, or we'd have Lakers/Warriors part 2

word to Bowen and LeBron last year

 

[knightngale]

I always bash laker players when they do stupid *$*. I have been doing that for years. I was one of the biggest kwame+parker+walton haters during the 2005-2007years

 

[franchise3]

What a finish.

First off, it was definitely a foul at the end, BUT, Barry did it to himself with the pump fake and then shot.

On replay, you can see Fisher come down on Barry, but in real time, it looked like a pump fake, trying to get a call to me.

The refs won't call that, man.

Had he gone straight up initially, there is no way Fisher avoids him, and then it's a clear call.

There's no way the refs don't blow the whistle there.

But, it shouldn't even got to that point. The Lakers are very fortunate to come away with the win, since, they had horrible time management and gaffs inthe last fifty seconds. Nevermind everything else that led up to that point.

With that said, I don't see the Spurs coming back.

3 out of 4 games Manu has been practically a no show. I dunno what it is, but combine that with SA's road woes/Lakers home dominance, it's just amatter of when the Spurs fizzle out.

 

[mrmossyman84]

Am I the only one who watched the play and thought Barry should get only 2 shots for a blocking foul?

Seems to me that everyone is going either 'no foul' or '3 shots', I thought Fisher's contact with Barry before he started his shootingmotion warranted two shots to attempt to tie the game.

 

[sohi 23]

The Spurs are going to come out heated vs. LA

I can see this one going 7, they're the defending champs for a reason

 

[Los Angeles]

Originally Posted by akajaedeuce

Originally Posted by bright nikes

Whatever, a WINS a WIN!

But, Lakers should have lost that game.

what are you talking about?

What I'm talking about is Pau's 2 missed FT's.

What I'm talking about is Kobe's attack to the basket, when he should have dribbled it back out, but he shot a forced shot with time to kill on theclock.

What I'm talking about everyone in the building knowing Brent Barry was going to hit that 3, and yet Brent gets a wide opened 3 to put them down by2.

What I'm talking about is Derek Fisher's lucky NO call foul on Barry. Lord knows if that was Kobe Bryant and he got Manu to bump him like that, wewould have cried foul.

But like I said, a wins a win.

 

[nickle dime bay]

Damn that was a nice @$* game, gotta wrap it up next game.

 

[Los Angeles]

Originally Posted by 8tothe24

Originally Posted by akajaedeuce

Originally Posted by bright nikes

Whatever, a WINS a WIN!

But, Lakers should have lost that game.

what are you talking about?

Drinking Hator-Aid while watching the game.

Please enlighten me and inform me what the hell "hator" aid is?

 

[SneakerProSr.]

I need to know what angle people are seeing that didn't show Parker's layup getting to the backboard before Lamar touched it.

I still want to see that shot clock violation though.

 

[Los Angeles]