OFFICIAL NBA 2017-2018 Off-Season Thread

[BIG FISH]

Russ shouldn’t have been on the ballot last year?! Vic doing his thing this year, but that team with Russ on the bench used to give up leads before Russ had stopped breathing hard. They were awful when Russ went out the game. Hard to believe that y’all don’t remember that.

What’s the difference between this year and last year? .3 rebounds? Lol

 

[RustyShackleford]

10 day contract?

If the game was on the line, I rather Stevie talking the crunch time free throws than Lonzo

 

[100027]

Also D’Antoni is more deserving of COTY than Stotts imo

Why can't they just give the COTY to the coach with the best record every year. I am so damn tired of these labored, convoluted "more with less" narratives.

Good coaching actually makes players look better. So if you're looking for the best coach with the players who look the worst what the hell are you even looking for in the end? Some weird middle ground...

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

Nate McMillan and possibly Snyder if they make the playoffs over stotts for me but that's perhaps a futile debate. Stevens can have coach of the year

Simmons can be rook of the year if they're Allowing sophomores

Gobert is the best defensive player in the league but Joel can hold the belt until next season when gobert can play more games

 

[BIG FISH]

Once again.... Simmons is the same age as Mitchell. Only the people who are mad Ben is exceeding expectations keep bringing up him being a “sophomore”

 

[nick.]

Russ averaging 25 / 9.7 / 10.1 for a team that's projected to finish with the exact same wins as last season with 47.

I truly am not trying to be disingenuous, but it's going to be crazy to see him go from MVP to not even on the ballot. That's insane.

The narrative last season was that he was carrying bums

 

[P C H]

How is AD 2nd and Giannis isn’t on the ballot lol
Also D’Antoni is more deserving of COTY than Stotts imo

The 2nd point I agree with, but The Bucks are flirting with the 8th seed and the Pels are in the top half of the west despite losing Boogie. He'd deserve the nod over Giannis.

 

[addict4sneakers]

Disagree?

Harden, AD, Oladipo, Embiid, Lebron

Simmons, Mitchell

Lou Williams

Embiid/ Gobert

 

[LebronHasMoreFinalsMVPs]

Mitchell was actually in College last year

 

[BIG FISH]

The 2nd point I agree with, but The Bucks are flirting with the 8th seed and the Pels are in the top half of the west despite losing Boogie. He'd deserve the nod over Giannis.

The Bucks record is similar to the Pelicans though.
And what exactly is the argument for AD over Bron then? That’s regency bias lol

 

[LebronHasMoreFinalsMVPs]

Bron for MIP and MVP

 

[lamekilla]

Don’t think AD should be ahead of Lebron in MVP votes

 

[LebronHasMoreFinalsMVPs]

Nobody brought up stevens beating the jazz with rookies and kerr couldnt beat the bucks?

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

Once again.... Simmons is the same age as Mitchell. Only the people who are mad Ben is exceeding expectations keep bringing up him being a “sophomore”

Age has zero to do with it though and I like Simmons and the buc ems

 

[B Sox]

DSJ shooting is a concern but all rookies shoot like trash.

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

Legit outside of me and @awwsome everyone was predicting Simmons at point guard would fail

Even Simmons rider @wavycrocket said Simmons at point guard wouldn't work

So again it's nothing personal. He can have rook of the year if really isn't a big deal

 

[BIG FISH]

Age has zero to do with it though and I like Simmons and the buc ems

It does...
And what major advantages did Ben gain by not even being able to work out the majority of last season?

 

[trynafeelmink]

What's Nuts to me is that a lot of the same guys clamoring that Russ had a "good" supporting cast last year are the same dudes who Say Lebrons supporting cast is trash

Dude are acting as if you take off the "Stat padding" & a guy is averaging 32, 7 & 7 on a playoff team, with multiple game winners & explosive performances, it wasn't a Historical season still. This argument is so dumb to me man.

Dude is putting up 25ppg, 9 rebounds, 10 assist. On a team that clearly isn't playing to "boost Statistics" and dudes are acting as if he's Not having a good season.

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

It does...
And what major advantages did Ben gain by not even being able to work out the majority of last season?

Hmm, let's see there's learning directly from pro coaches, being at practices, watching their film, studying the game without worrying about college issues and obligations, learning the routine of being a pro, seeing what it takes to become a pro, being around pro players, basically getting acclimated to the NBA world

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

What's Nuts to me is that a lot of the same guys clamoring that Russ had a "good" supporting cast last year are the same dudes who Say Lebrons supporting cast is trash

Dude are acting as if you take off the "Stat padding" & a guy is averaging 32, 7 & 7 on a playoff team, with multiple game winners & explosive performances, it wasn't a Historical season still. This argument is so dumb to me man.

Dude is putting up 25ppg, 9 rebounds, 10 assist. On a team that clearly isn't playing to "boost Statistics" and dudes are acting as if he's Not having a good season.

In the games I've seen this season, Westbrook deserves MVP just like he did last season in the games I watched of him back then

 

[yobyellav]

Kind of hard to get in a rhythm when you're playing choreographed basketball designed for one player to reach a statistical milestone.

They were playing choreographed basketball when he was on the bench and giving up leads? Did he play all 82? If he didn’t, what did guys do when he sat?

I don’t know the answers to those questions. I do remember watching games and seeing leads disappear way too quickly when he sat. He deserved the mvp.

 

[trynafeelmink]

In the games I've seen this season, Westbrook deserves MVP just like he did last season in the games I watched of him back then

Outta here with the corny ****, Nobody saying he deserves MVP this year. People Are trying to make it seem as if he's somehow not having a good season this year because He Couldn't keep consistently averaging a 32 Point Tripple double, so he's overated

 

[B Sox]

Outta here with the corny ****, Nobody saying he deserves MVP this year. People Are trying to make it seem as if he's somehow not having a good season this year because He Couldn't keep consistently averaging a 32 Point Tripple double, so he's overated

Why doesn't he deserve the MVP this year though?

 

[HIM]

Nobody saying he deserves MVP this year.

Speak for yourself. I've had him as the MVP for a while now (he's almost averaging a triple double).

 

[BIG FISH]

Hmm, let's see there's learning directly from pro coaches, being at practices, watching their film, studying the game without worrying about college issues and obligations, learning the routine of being a pro, seeing what it takes to become a pro, being around pro players, basically getting acclimated to the NBA world

None of these are major advantages.. so yeah stop trying to throw shade about the whole sophomore thing. I’m sure you didn’t care when Blake Griffin “stole” Wall’s ROY