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[franchise3]

So basically Bud, Dalembert and 14 into 12 and 18. Pretty good.

 

[thasoleful1]

damn if thats true Rockets are going HARD

 

[mrdieselfuel09]

Houston making moves.

 

[kevin cleveland]

Leuer is low-key nice, too.

Edit: Leuer, Brockman and Livingston? That's three decent niche-y bench guys. Shooting big, rebounding/enforcing big and a 6'7" point guard.

I like it.

 

[purplenurple1414]

Livingston is in that trade too.

 

[ballinsam23]

HOUSTON GOING ALL IN!

I wish nothing but the best for them. Ever since Yao retired early it hasnt been the same..

 

[Humbled]

My hometeam making lowkey nice moves

Livingston is in that deal as well.

 

[coldcity]

Originally Posted by Kevin Cleveland

Leuer is low-key nice, too.

yeah i remember him cookin during a bulls game

 

[thasoleful1]

12, 16, and 18th picks thats good enough for a team to rebuild, question is which team takes it

 

[bigmike23]

This ant a video game you can't build around middle of the round 1st round draft picks


Maybe in the nfl not nba

 

[MVP]

I'm positive that HOU is going to try and package at least two of those picks to move up into the top 10/get an established veteran. If not they'll be in the same position they were this year. They need to try and get a difference maker.

 

[k town trash]

INDIANAPOLIS (AP) -- Larry Bird is calling it quits with the Indiana Pacers.

Bird, perhaps the most respected and beloved basketball figure in a state obsessed with the sport, will leave his job as the Pacers' president of basketball operations at the end of August. He spent four years building the team into an Eastern Conference contender and was this season's NBA executive of the year, but is instead moving on after saying just a month ago that he was willing to stay.

Bird said health issues were among the reasons for his departure. He said he may need shoulder surgery and cited longstanding issues with his back.

''I just think it's time,'' he said at a news conference Wednesday as the team announced an executive reorganization.

Bird said was prepared to leave last year with the organization headed in the right direction. He and owner Herb Simon had discussed his eventual departure for a few years. Bird also said that payroll issues with the small-market Pacers did not affect his decision.

''(Simon) knows to get to the next level we're going to spend some money,'' Bird said. ''Every time I went to Herb about a player or about money to spend, he questioned it. And he should. At the end of the day, he always said go ahead and do what you have to do to make this team better. That's the support you need. ... We're going to spend money.''

Bird said he plans to take a year off and get healthy before he evaluates his situation. He did not rule out a return to basketball. Owning a team used to be a goal, but he said he no longer has that interest.

Simon said he had hoped to keep Bird, who will stay on for the draft when the Pacers are scheduled to pick No. 26 overall in the first round Thursday night. His contract expires Aug. 30.

''I feel sad (with) the announcement that Larry's going to be leaving us,'' said Simon, who continued to talk to Bird about staying as late as Monday. ''Larry could have stayed here as long as he wants, but he has his own reasons. The Pacers organization appreciates everything he's done for us in his nine years. We wish him the very best and hope that we can still be associated with him in the coming years.''

The 55-year-old Bird was the Pacers coach from 1997-2000, taking the team to its only NBA Finals appearance that final year before he returned to the team's front office in 2003. He took full control as president of basketball decisions after the 2007-08 season, when Donnie Walsh left to become the New York Knicks' president.

Walsh is returning as the Pacers' president. Kevin Pritchard, the director of player personnel, is being promoted to general manager, replacing David Morway, who resigned Tuesday. Walsh said he won't travel the country to evaluate collegiate prospects, leaving that to Pritchard.

Simon first seriously talked to Walsh about the job two weeks ago.

''It was a good fit,'' Walsh said. ''When Larry decided to go, it was easy for Herb to look at me and I felt natural in coming back here. I had gotten used to, hey, maybe I won't do it again. So, I had to rethink that again. ''(I would have been interested in another team) only if it was a real situation for me where I knew I'd fit. I'm not just throwing my name out for jobs. I wouldn't do that.''

Bird had said just a month ago that he wanted to stay and expressed interest in a three-year deal rather than the annual ''handshake'' agreements he had with Simon.

It wasn't to be, and now the Pacers will look to continue their resurgence. Under Bird, the Pacers went 36-46 in 2008-09 and 32-50 in 2009-10 and then, two seasons ago, the Pacers were 17-27 when Bird fired coach Jim O'Brien in what proved to be a spark.

Interim coach Frank Vogel then took a young team with core players Danny Granger, Roy Hibbert, Tyler Hansbrough and Darren Collison and guided it to the playoffs. The Pacers challenged the Chicago Bulls before losing the first-round series 4-1. This year, Indiana beat Orlando easily in the first round before falling to eventual champion Miami in six games.

Bird, of course, is as well known in Indiana as John Wooden or Bob Knight. The former Indiana State star from tiny French Lick won three MVP awards and three NBA titles during his Hall of Fame career with Boston.

As the Pacers' president, he took a franchise humbled by the brawl between Pacers players and Pistons fans in 2004, made a series of difficult trades to get rid of troublemakers, rebuilt through the draft and returned the Pacers to the Eastern Conference semifinals this season. It was Indiana's deepest postseason run in seven years.

The franchise with a tarnished image is now one of the league's most promising teams despite its small-market status. Bird built the team the old-fashioned way - by drafting players (Paul George and Hansbrough) and developing them through the team structure, making shrewd decisions to trade for others (George Hill and Collison) and finding affordable free agents (David West).

The Pacers, well under the salary cap, are expected to be a significant player in free agency.

 

[thasoleful1]

Originally Posted by Bigmike23

This ant a video game you can't build around middle of the round 1st round draft picks


Maybe in the nfl not nba

how so? the draft is deep at 12 you can still get a decent player 16 and 18 can give you players that may slip that can turn into roleplayers or even starters.

 

[you go boy]

i like that move for the bucks they trade down two spots and get dalembert... but i don't like that move for the rockets... they trade dalembert only to move 2 spots up...if money was an issue they could have just passed on picking up dalembert option

 

[vc3fan]

So, Houston still has two ones they can trade to get a player back in return. All mid picks.


I wonder if they will make the push for the 5 now. and keep the 18th as there own for some giant trade. No matter what, Houston has to keep one pick or just draft a guy and commence the trade after Sunday.  And Brockman is a nice little piece too.  He could become a good role player. 

 

[ballinsam23]

i wish my knicks had the 12, 16, and 18th picks of this draft 

 

[ballinsam23]

didnt the Nets offer 5 first rounders to Orlando for Dwight before and they declined?

 

[senorroboto2k5]

Different GM I guess.

Also this is back when they thought they were convincing Dwight to stay for a while.

 

[MVP]

  Rockets stockpiling picks for run at Howard, Gasol

By Ken Berger | NBA Insider
June 27, 2012 4:02 pm ET
The Houston Rockets continued stockpiling first-round picks Wednesday in a bid to move into the top 10 of Thursday night's draft and enhance their chances of landing a superstar big man, league sources told CBSSports.com.

While Houston has not given up on making a play for Orlando center Dwight Howard, their swap of the 14th pick with Milwaukee for the 12th pick Wednesday gave them an arsenal of the 12th, 16th and 18th picks that could be used to finally consummate their longtime pursuit of Lakers forward Pau Gasol.

With word beginning to circulate among rival executives that the Lakers are open to moving Gasol for a starting veteran and prime draft pick, the Rockets are well positioned to make such an offer. They sent Samuel Dalembert and the 14th pick to Milwaukee for the 12th pick, Shaun Livingston, Jon Brockman and Jon Leuer. The trio of picks in the teens could be parlayed into a pick high enough to entice the Lakers to part with Gasol, sources said.

In terms of established players, the Rockets could offer Kevin Martin, who would help solve the Lakers' perimeter shooting woes and who has no money owed beyond next season. Though it is not known what parameters the Rockets and Lakers have discussed, a key goal for the Lakers would be to get younger and ease what is expected to be an enormous tax burden in 2013-14, when the league's more punitive luxury tax kicks in and Gasol and Kobe Bryant are scheduled to earn a combined $50 million.
The Bucks, needing a center to replace the traded Andrew Bogut, will "definitely" keep Dalembert even though he only has $1.5 million of his $6.7 million salary guaranteed for next season, according to a person familiar with the team's plans.

Makes sense now 12+16/18 to get into the top 7 or so and then trade for Pau. LA gets a top 10 pick plus needed perimeter help in either Lowry/KMart and a young stud 

 

[Peep Game]

What is going on

? Like to see these moves made, but I want judge until right after the draft, just to see the finish/payoff.
***EDIT: Gasol

 &@^# him.

 

[noneofyours25]

Honestly, at this point, Houston might as well just go young with all these draft picks.

 

[Humbled]

I swear if these %%%*+ @+% %#$#%! trade for soft @+% piece of #!%+ Gasol i'll rage. 

These #%$@%# better go after D12. Hell, i'd MUCH rather have Josh Smith than Gasoft.

 

[N41D]

If another idiot GM bails the Lakers outta dealing with Gasol and actually gives them something valuable in return...

 

[solarius49]

Originally Posted by WhatsLosinLike



I swear if these %%%*+ @+% %#$#%! trade for soft @+% piece of #!%+ Gasol i'll rage.�

These #%$@%# better go after D12. Hell, i'd MUCH rather have Josh Smith than Gasoft.

bruh, you know we're talking about the Rockets, not the Heat right?

 

[Humbled]

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