Official Oklahoma City Thunder VS Memphis Grizzlies Series Thread: OKC Wins

this kat Royal Ivey hits a 3?! He's not even NBA caliber. He's just on the team because him and KD are best friends and have the connection from going to the same school. And I love how KD always puts on one of the fan shirts on the bench.

Yall *****ing about refs? C'mon our guys have 3 tees in this series without even cussing or "showing up" the refs and our bigs start every game with 2 fouls a piece, especially Perk.

I mean I'd say we won the whistle tonight, but nothing extravagant. We had homecourt, and again dudes have been fouling KD all series and getting away with it up til last game and certainly weren't going to in our building. It is what it is.
 
Originally Posted by bhzmafia14

The same way OKC is physical with Zbo and Marc down low.
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and they call fouls on our guys.. how many games have battier or allen been in foul trouble?
 
Good game, Just one more W and Memphis is done
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Originally Posted by JumpmanFromDaBay

Originally Posted by itsaboutthattime

Originally Posted by bhzmafia14

The same way OKC is physical with Zbo and Marc down low.
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and they call fouls on our guys.. how many games have battier or allen been in foul trouble?
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Stop Whining!!!!OKC gets alot of calls
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right... go look at the foul trouble all of our big men have been in the whole series.. and see if i'm 'whinning'


i have no problem with the refs letting the teams play.. my problem is when you allow 1 thing on 1 end and then turn around and not allow it on the other..


and the ticky tac techs have been called are bull
 
Originally Posted by JumpmanFromDaBay

Originally Posted by itsaboutthattime

Originally Posted by bhzmafia14

The same way OKC is physical with Zbo and Marc down low.
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and they call fouls on our guys.. how many games have battier or allen been in foul trouble?
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Stop Whining!!!!OKC gets alot of calls
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right... go look at the foul trouble all of our big men have been in the whole series.. and see if i'm 'whinning'


i have no problem with the refs letting the teams play.. my problem is when you allow 1 thing on 1 end and then turn around and not allow it on the other..


and the ticky tac techs have been called are bull
 
Chill with the officiating talk. I think they've been fine for the most part...Battier/Allen getting away with a lot on Durant and Collison is getting away with a lot on Z-Bo. It evens out.
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Memphis Gassed, OKC Rolls

Given the exhausting triple overtime marathon played between the Oklahoma City Thunder and Memphis Grizzlies back on Monday, there was a danger that one or both teams would be out of gas tonight. By halftime, it was clear that the empty tank belonged to Memphis!

The game turned in the second quarter, when the Oklahoma City bench provided valuable production while Kevin Durant and Russell Westbrook rested.

11:26: Nazr Mohammed tip
9:07: Nazr Mohammed 8-footer
8:30: Nick Collison 20-footer
7:50: Daequan Cook three-pointer
7:09: Daequan Cook layup

With 6:46 left in the quarter, Durant and Westbrook re-entered with the score tied at 28. That's obviously a very low score 17 minutes into the game! (Looks like both teams started with empty tanks) But, the bench had treaded water for several minutes, and fresh legs were coming to the rescue:

5:09: Westbrook jumper for a 30-29 lead
4:41: Serge Ibaka scores after re-entering game for 32-31 lead
4:09: Westbrook makes trey for 35-31 lead
3:47: James Harden dunk for 37-31 lead
2:45: Durant 18-footer for 39-33 lead
2:15: Durant dunk for 41-33 lead
1:23: Kendrick Perkins layup for 43-33 lead
0:32: Ibaka dunk for 45-33 lead

That was pretty much the ballgame. The score was 17-5 from the point the OKC stars re-entered...and 13-2 from the 4:41 mark to the thirty second mark.

Memphis literally never found their legs. Their score by quarters was 17-15-17-20. Oklahoma City got that jet boost before the half and partied the rest of the night.

OKLAHOMA CITY 99, MEMPHIS 72
2-point pct: Memphis 37%, OK City 48%
3-pointers: Memphis 2/8, OK City 9/20
Rebounds: Memphixs 33, OK City 50
1's and 2's: Memphis 66, OK City 72

If you've watched a lot of playoff games in your life, you know that something like this isn't uncommon. If you're going to lose, call it a night and save your energy for the next battle. The stats here really don't mean that much unless Memphis is permanently out of gas (which is possible given the high energy they brought to the San Antonio series and the first four games here). If that's the case, OKC will coast in Game Six Friday. If Memphis was refueling, it will be back to the grinding nailbiters (unless OKC decides to take a night off if they fall behind early to save themselves for a seventh game at home--we've seen that too over the years).

It's worth noting that OKC has pretty firmly established its superiority in the series now. Home court means something, so taking both games in Memphis to overtime meant OKC was a few points better on a neutral cout. By that measure, they've been the "better" team in four of the five games. That doesn't mean Memphis can't come back. But, it means that the lesser of the two teams will have to lift its game if they're going to advance to the Western Conference Finals.

Quick signs of fatigue:

*Westbrook only took 10 shots and had 6 assists. This after taking 33 shots with just 5 assists in the last game. Maybe this is a sign of maturity or listening to his coaches rather than fatigue. A lot of players were involved in the offense tonight, which is something this team really needed.

*Marc Gasol only had 5 rebounds in 31 minutes. His numbers in Games 1-4 were 13-10-7-21. Against San Antonio they were 9-17-9-9-17-13. Only rubbery legs would lead to a number that low. It's not like there weren't a lot of missed shots to grab!

Back late Thursday for numbers and notes from Game Six of Chicago/Atlanta. Game Six of Memphis/OKC is set for Friday. Thanks to everyone who's been checking in daily with us here at HoopData!
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Chill with the officiating talk. I think they've been fine for the most part...Battier/Allen getting away with a lot on Durant and Collison is getting away with a lot on Z-Bo. It evens out.
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Memphis Gassed, OKC Rolls

Given the exhausting triple overtime marathon played between the Oklahoma City Thunder and Memphis Grizzlies back on Monday, there was a danger that one or both teams would be out of gas tonight. By halftime, it was clear that the empty tank belonged to Memphis!

The game turned in the second quarter, when the Oklahoma City bench provided valuable production while Kevin Durant and Russell Westbrook rested.

11:26: Nazr Mohammed tip
9:07: Nazr Mohammed 8-footer
8:30: Nick Collison 20-footer
7:50: Daequan Cook three-pointer
7:09: Daequan Cook layup

With 6:46 left in the quarter, Durant and Westbrook re-entered with the score tied at 28. That's obviously a very low score 17 minutes into the game! (Looks like both teams started with empty tanks) But, the bench had treaded water for several minutes, and fresh legs were coming to the rescue:

5:09: Westbrook jumper for a 30-29 lead
4:41: Serge Ibaka scores after re-entering game for 32-31 lead
4:09: Westbrook makes trey for 35-31 lead
3:47: James Harden dunk for 37-31 lead
2:45: Durant 18-footer for 39-33 lead
2:15: Durant dunk for 41-33 lead
1:23: Kendrick Perkins layup for 43-33 lead
0:32: Ibaka dunk for 45-33 lead

That was pretty much the ballgame. The score was 17-5 from the point the OKC stars re-entered...and 13-2 from the 4:41 mark to the thirty second mark.

Memphis literally never found their legs. Their score by quarters was 17-15-17-20. Oklahoma City got that jet boost before the half and partied the rest of the night.

OKLAHOMA CITY 99, MEMPHIS 72
2-point pct: Memphis 37%, OK City 48%
3-pointers: Memphis 2/8, OK City 9/20
Rebounds: Memphixs 33, OK City 50
1's and 2's: Memphis 66, OK City 72

If you've watched a lot of playoff games in your life, you know that something like this isn't uncommon. If you're going to lose, call it a night and save your energy for the next battle. The stats here really don't mean that much unless Memphis is permanently out of gas (which is possible given the high energy they brought to the San Antonio series and the first four games here). If that's the case, OKC will coast in Game Six Friday. If Memphis was refueling, it will be back to the grinding nailbiters (unless OKC decides to take a night off if they fall behind early to save themselves for a seventh game at home--we've seen that too over the years).

It's worth noting that OKC has pretty firmly established its superiority in the series now. Home court means something, so taking both games in Memphis to overtime meant OKC was a few points better on a neutral cout. By that measure, they've been the "better" team in four of the five games. That doesn't mean Memphis can't come back. But, it means that the lesser of the two teams will have to lift its game if they're going to advance to the Western Conference Finals.

Quick signs of fatigue:

*Westbrook only took 10 shots and had 6 assists. This after taking 33 shots with just 5 assists in the last game. Maybe this is a sign of maturity or listening to his coaches rather than fatigue. A lot of players were involved in the offense tonight, which is something this team really needed.

*Marc Gasol only had 5 rebounds in 31 minutes. His numbers in Games 1-4 were 13-10-7-21. Against San Antonio they were 9-17-9-9-17-13. Only rubbery legs would lead to a number that low. It's not like there weren't a lot of missed shots to grab!

Back late Thursday for numbers and notes from Game Six of Chicago/Atlanta. Game Six of Memphis/OKC is set for Friday. Thanks to everyone who's been checking in daily with us here at HoopData!
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Originally Posted by PMatic

It evens out.
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it doesn't

first part of the article:
Grizzlies forward Zach Randolph and center Marc Gasol have yet to come close to foul trouble, let alone fouling out. Only once has either of them (Randolph) been whistled for more than three fouls in a single contest. It’s helped Randolph rack up a 44.1-minute average over these first four games, while Gasol has averaged 42 minutes in these first four. For as physical as this series has been, Randolph and Gasol each carry an incredibly low foul rate of 0.07 fouls per minute.
Now compare that to Oklahoma City’s big-man rotation. Serge Ibaka is averaging five fouls in this series in only 31.5 minutes. Kendrick Perkins is at 4.5 in the same amount of playing time. Nick Collison has averaged 4.3 fouls in just 24.5 minutes. even Nazr Mohammed’s 1.8 fouls per game over his 10.2 minutes of action in this series would translate to 5.4 per game if he logged 30 minutes a night.

It’s been an incredible advantage for the Grizzlies. The trend has not just kept the Grizzlies bigs on the court, it’s put them on the foul line. Randolph had made 41 of 46 free throws, a 0.26 attempt-per-minute rate. Gasol has converted 21 of 29 free throws, a 0.17 attempt-per-minute rate. The Thunder’s bigs? Oklahoma City’s quartet has combined for 24 foul shots, or five less than Gasol.

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The edge in terms of offensive skill in this series completely flips with the wing players. The Thunder has the clear upper-hand in that category with Russell Westbrook and Kevin Durant over Mike Conley and Tony Allen. But the Grizzlies haven’t had to play behind the 8-ball on the perimeter like the Thunder has had to in the paint. Westbrook and Durant have combined for 343 minutes to Conley and Allen’s 277 minutes, a 66-minute differential. And much of that has come as a result of the Grizzlies voluntarily subbing out Allen for Shane Battier.

Granted, inside play is much more physical and foul-worthy than the perimeter. But with the league’s hand checking rules preventing wing defenders from making contact with players on the perimeter, it would seem the Thunder should have a similar advantage on the wing that the Grizzlies have under the rim. Not so, though, even though we’ve seen how hands-on Allen and Battier have been with Durant (which generally is allowed more in postseason play). Conley and Allen each average 3.75 fouls. Only Conley has fouled out of a game, the Game 4 triple-overtime thriller. Add to that, Battier has averaged just 2.25 fouls in this series. Furthermore, Battier (0.08), Conley (0.09) and Allen (0.13) all have a considerably lower foul-per-minute rate than Thunder’s big men Perkins (0.14), Ibaka (0.16) and Collison and Mohammed (0.17).

link:
http://blog.newsok.com/th...fs-calling-it-both-ways/
 
Originally Posted by PMatic

It evens out.
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it doesn't

first part of the article:
Grizzlies forward Zach Randolph and center Marc Gasol have yet to come close to foul trouble, let alone fouling out. Only once has either of them (Randolph) been whistled for more than three fouls in a single contest. It’s helped Randolph rack up a 44.1-minute average over these first four games, while Gasol has averaged 42 minutes in these first four. For as physical as this series has been, Randolph and Gasol each carry an incredibly low foul rate of 0.07 fouls per minute.
Now compare that to Oklahoma City’s big-man rotation. Serge Ibaka is averaging five fouls in this series in only 31.5 minutes. Kendrick Perkins is at 4.5 in the same amount of playing time. Nick Collison has averaged 4.3 fouls in just 24.5 minutes. even Nazr Mohammed’s 1.8 fouls per game over his 10.2 minutes of action in this series would translate to 5.4 per game if he logged 30 minutes a night.

It’s been an incredible advantage for the Grizzlies. The trend has not just kept the Grizzlies bigs on the court, it’s put them on the foul line. Randolph had made 41 of 46 free throws, a 0.26 attempt-per-minute rate. Gasol has converted 21 of 29 free throws, a 0.17 attempt-per-minute rate. The Thunder’s bigs? Oklahoma City’s quartet has combined for 24 foul shots, or five less than Gasol.

and second part:

The edge in terms of offensive skill in this series completely flips with the wing players. The Thunder has the clear upper-hand in that category with Russell Westbrook and Kevin Durant over Mike Conley and Tony Allen. But the Grizzlies haven’t had to play behind the 8-ball on the perimeter like the Thunder has had to in the paint. Westbrook and Durant have combined for 343 minutes to Conley and Allen’s 277 minutes, a 66-minute differential. And much of that has come as a result of the Grizzlies voluntarily subbing out Allen for Shane Battier.

Granted, inside play is much more physical and foul-worthy than the perimeter. But with the league’s hand checking rules preventing wing defenders from making contact with players on the perimeter, it would seem the Thunder should have a similar advantage on the wing that the Grizzlies have under the rim. Not so, though, even though we’ve seen how hands-on Allen and Battier have been with Durant (which generally is allowed more in postseason play). Conley and Allen each average 3.75 fouls. Only Conley has fouled out of a game, the Game 4 triple-overtime thriller. Add to that, Battier has averaged just 2.25 fouls in this series. Furthermore, Battier (0.08), Conley (0.09) and Allen (0.13) all have a considerably lower foul-per-minute rate than Thunder’s big men Perkins (0.14), Ibaka (0.16) and Collison and Mohammed (0.17).

link:
http://blog.newsok.com/th...fs-calling-it-both-ways/
 
How often is OKC running the offense through Perkins, Ibaka, Collison and Mohammad compared to Memphis running their offense through Z-Bo and Gasol? Z-Bo and Gasol aren't even paying much attention to those four half the time.
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OKC
Durant: 9.6 FT
Westbrook: 7.8 FT
OKC: 34 FT
Committing 26.2 fouls/game

MEM
Z-Bo: 10.6 FT
Gasol: 7.8 FT
MEM: 33.8 FT
Committing 23.6 fouls/game
 
How often is OKC running the offense through Perkins, Ibaka, Collison and Mohammad compared to Memphis running their offense through Z-Bo and Gasol? Z-Bo and Gasol aren't even paying much attention to those four half the time.
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OKC
Durant: 9.6 FT
Westbrook: 7.8 FT
OKC: 34 FT
Committing 26.2 fouls/game

MEM
Z-Bo: 10.6 FT
Gasol: 7.8 FT
MEM: 33.8 FT
Committing 23.6 fouls/game
 
my point is the calls on the inside vs. calls on the perimeter


admittedly it's a physical series.. but watching some of the fouls called on the inside, while they dont call the grabbing and holding done on the perimeter.. it doesn't make sense


i just want to be able to see something and say "ok that's a foul"
 
my point is the calls on the inside vs. calls on the perimeter


admittedly it's a physical series.. but watching some of the fouls called on the inside, while they dont call the grabbing and holding done on the perimeter.. it doesn't make sense


i just want to be able to see something and say "ok that's a foul"
 
right now the fouls break down as (total):

okc - 139

mem- 118


techs:

okc - 5

mem - 2
 
right now the fouls break down as (total):

okc - 139

mem- 118


techs:

okc - 5

mem - 2
 
Of course they are fouling Marc and Z-bo. They are undersized. The reason OKC's bigs have so many fouls is because they are intentionally fouling to make them earn it from the line when they are beat or out of position.
 
Of course they are fouling Marc and Z-bo. They are undersized. The reason OKC's bigs have so many fouls is because they are intentionally fouling to make them earn it from the line when they are beat or out of position.
 
Originally Posted by JaysRcrak

Of course they are fouling Marc and Z-bo. They are undersized. The reason OKC's bigs have so many fouls is because they are intentionally fouling to make them earn it from the line when they are beat or out of position.
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i get that..

but what i dont get is why tony allen and battier are allowed to get away with what they do and not get called for anything.. and the techs
 
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