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Fine but I’ll reiterate, folks aren’t obligated to be polite in their despair and they certainly aren’t obligated to be pro bono PR reps for people with more power than themselves.
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But I don't remember me demanding this from anyone to by PR reps for anyone else. Or demand politeness.

I don't have an answer for whatever misrepresentation of my argument you want to present in your constant quest to gain the moral high ground
 


I believe that MTG actually believes the QAnon stuff she says. Boebert is awful and inciteful but I think she’s just good at appealing to rightwing cultural grievance. Remember she and her husband own a gun themed BBQ joint, they know how to appeal to accountants and real estate agents in the exurbs who think they are rugged frontiersman.

Two dumbasses. Yeah it’s all a front. Broad ain’t never shot at anything but air and paper targets in a controlled environment. ***** probably thinks 5.56 and 7.62 are area codes.
 
Biden administration needs to get on this quick.

Need to either create laws or enforce the current ones so that these kinds of acts no longer go unpunished.



I watched it, a few things:

1.) We need to know the name of this appraiser
2.) black people have twice as much student loans as whites people and that’s a big obstacle to home buying, interesting. Someone should do something about that.
3.) the Biden administration is saying it’s going to introduce measures to make home buying more affordable, hope that materializes. That will piss off a lot of current home owners because people expect, and I don’t blame them on an individual level, to have their homes significantly appreciate in price. Originally, a home was mostly a store of income which turned into wealth because you were paying, what you’d pay in rent, into a mortgage. But now it’s seen as investment vehicle.
4.) We need to figure out how everyone can have a good life without owning real estate. Even if we can get black homeownership up to white rates, we’d still have a third of white people and a third of black people in America not owning homes. What about them?
 
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But I don't remember me demanding this from anyone to by PR reps for anyone else. Or demand politeness.

I don't have an answer for whatever misrepresentation of my argument you want to present in your constant quest to gain the moral high ground

Look, from my perspective it feels like you and others here pretty much are in two modes: we hate Republicans mode and we hate socialists mode.
 


The MSM still can’t call openly racist statements racist. It’s not a “divisive debate” going on, it’s pushback because this women simultaneously equated Americanism with whiteness AND said that non white, migrant lives don’t matter beyond what they can immediately provide white, capitalist citizens in terms of labor.
 

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I believe that MTG actually believes the QAnon stuff she says. Boebert is awful and inciteful but I think she’s just good at appealing to rightwing cultural grievance. Remember she and her husband own a gun themed BBQ joint, they know how to appeal to accountants and real estate agents in the exurbs who think they are rugged frontiersman.

"I always thought Billy was nice, maybe a little quiet. He would sometimes help us out with groceries. Maybe a little awkward, and he would sometimes bring up some weird theory he had about the government controlling the weather, mostly harmless stuff. We could always share a laugh about how bad Obama was as president. He had his hobbies, just like everybody else. He likes to shoot his guns and pretend he was fending off an alien invasion. I never would've thought he'd be the one to go on a shooting spree and kill those dozens of innocent people. Nobody could've seen this coming."

crazy white girl with a gun fascination might be good politics for other crazy whites with gun fascinations. they're all bat**** crazy and none of it is normal.

rugged frontiersman kills animals with his bare hands. these people are just *******.

maybe you're right, maybe she's like tucker carlson or others who are putting on a show for their white nationalist audience, but where is the line between tucker and Alex Jones, who some also say just does it for show. to me they're all the same.
 
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I believe that MTG actually believes the QAnon stuff she says. Boebert is awful and inciteful but I think she’s just good at appealing to rightwing cultural grievance. Remember she and her husband own a gun themed BBQ joint, they know how to appeal to accountants and real estate agents in the exurbs who think they are rugged frontiersman.

Hate saying this BUT if she was black or brown she would be a gang member. If you’re white you’re “rugged”.
 
"I always thought Billy was nice, maybe a little quiet. He would sometimes help us out with groceries. Maybe a little awkward, and he would sometimes bring up some weird theory he had about the government controlling the weather, mostly harmless stuff. We could always share a laugh about how bad Obama was as president. He had his hobbies, just like everybody else. He likes to shoot his guns and pretend he was fending off an alien invasion. I never would've thought he'd be the one to go on a shooting spree and kill those dozens of innocent people. Nobody could've seen this coming."

crazy white girl with a gun fascination might be good politics for other crazy whites with gun fascinations. they're all bat**** crazy and none of it is normal.

rugged frontiersman kills animals with his bare hands. these people are just *******.

maybe you're right, maybe she's like tucker carlson or others who are putting on a show for their white nationalist audience, but where is the line between tucker and Alex Jones, who some also say just does it for show. to me they're all the same.

Ultimately, Boebert will do the same things MTG does. In some ways it makes no difference if they believe what they say or not but it’s important because Boebert provides a template for Republicans, going forward, who can be QAnon Congresspeople without having to actually be into Q themselves and the effect of there being 20, 30, 40 Q congresspeople is that it makes Q seem more mainstream and that will nudge more conservatives into actually being Q pilled.
 
Ultimately, Boebert will do the same things MTG does. In some ways it makes no difference if they believe what they say or not but it’s important because Boebert provides a template for Republicans, going forward, who can be QAnon Congresspeople without having to actually be into Q themselves and the effect of there being 20, 30, 40 Q congresspeople is that it makes Q seem more mainstream and that will nudge more conservatives into actually being Q pilled.
Yes, exactly. Politicians are chameleons and they'll change to whatever it takes to get reelected. On one side, that means changing to accept LGBTQ, protecting civil liberties, fighting intolerance, taking care of the poor and hungry, etc.

On the other side, it's whatever monster soup du jour the evangelical-capitalist-white supremacist is brewing.
 
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