***Official Political Discussion Thread***

[Belgium]

What's gotten into him all of a sudden?

 

[had pants]

 

[plansb]

Scott’s tots

 

[IATT]

 

[Wargames]

Look at this…smh

 

[Mark Antony]

Not my favorite episode. Notice a lot of people absolutely hate this episode though.

 

[WASHED KING]

Not my favorite episode. Notice a lot of people absolutely hate this episode though.

Biden going back on his student loan forgiveness is enough for me not to vote for him next term.

 

[Mark Antony]

Biden going back on his student loan forgiveness is enough for me not to vote for him next term.

Hasn't even been in office a year yet.

 

[WASHED KING]

Hasn't even been in office a year yet.

He has 3 years.

 

[rexanglorum]

To quote Michael Jordan: "**** them kids."

At some point you get old enough to see that the same hysteria is recycled every 10-20 years. "Oh no, the gas prices are too high!" and "Oh no, eggs cost an extra 10 cents for a dozen!" and "Oh no, how are we going to pay for this?" and "Crime is out of control (it's not)" etc etc.

The poor kids panic. They're gullible. They really believed the campaign promises (many of them that were never explicitly made) that all college would be free and minimum wage would be high enough to buy a 5-bedroom house and 4 SUVs and coal would make a comeback. So then they naturally get upset a couple years later and make the right decision to vote Donald J Trump back into office. He gets **** done.

I tell every leftist I know, Marxists, Marxist-Leninists, Maoists, social democrats, democratic socialists, anarcho-communists, Hoxhites, Posadists, Jucheists, and post-neo third worldist Sankarites, that the best strategic play is to vote for Democrats straight ticket in every general election. So if these low approval ratings translate into a huge GOP midterm victory, that would be a bad outcome and we should all work to avoid it.

That said, the results from Biden and this Democratic trifecta has not been great. If I were called by a pollster, I’d say disapprove.

After Biden beat Bernie, he said that Americans don’t want a revolution, they want results. The premise from Biden supporters was that while his agenda would be less ambitious than Sanders or Warren or most primary candidates, those more modest goals could be reached. Well, those goals largely haven’t been reached.

The reasons go well beyond Joe Biden, so in a sense America is failing the vast majority of its people. But the President is the face of America and in these types of polls of presidential approval, it’s largely a question of what you think of the present state of the country.

Lastly, even if one can come to terms with how sclerotic our system and how it’s unable to meet the moment, there’s just the matter of optics. Biden, Schumer, Pelosi, they don’t get publicly angry at how the system is failing America. Biden is out there saying that America is back while most people are struggling to pay their rent. Could Biden get as mad at GOP and “moderate” Democrats who blocked what is ostensibly “his” policy agenda? Biden knows how to be publicly mad, could he at least pretend to be as pissed off at Joe Manchin as he has been pissed off at rave promoters? Could Pelosi pretend to be as passionate about extending the child tax credit as she is about members of Congress getting to buy and sell stocks while in office?

Democrats may be unwilling and unable to play hardball, win-at-all-costs politics like the GOP. Could they at least feign outrage on their constituents’ behalf and name enemies like the GOP does? At least pretend to care.

 

[Based Jesus]

Remove the filibuster
Pass the VRA
Give DC and PR statehood
Expand the supreme court
Institute a federal ban on gerrymandering

Those are results

 

[Based Jesus]

 

[Mark Antony]

Ye has done and made excuses for some sick ****. The usual retort is the good he's done, but he almost has to do that to make peace with himself.

 

[heelsandeers]

I mean, we knew that already

There was a 2020 NYT article stating as much

IIRC Delk was trying to gas up his run as helping Biden more than Trump

 

[IATT]

dwalk31 you going call trump antisemitic?

 

[TooOlfForThisIsh]

Nothing will change until money is removed from politics.

at least we can ride their trades in the meantime…

Ride them? I want to front run them.

 

[gry60]

"The referees are also playing the game, as they should."

Fingers crossed Biden and Harris hit some logo shots next year to help excite the base before midterms. Need to get the centrists and youths rooting for Chef Joey like he's in the Garden pulling up from 30 ft.

That's like wanting the crowd to chant "MVP" while you're hitting practice layups.

Let Democrats actually attempt to, I dunno, do something about them 50k tuition fees and $2500 rents for studios, then we'll talk.

Nah, citizenship is a responsibility, not a privilege. It’s the citizens’ job to participate in the democratic process with due diligence. Voters aren’t simply consumers of political choice at the polls, they are also empowered to guide those choices well before voting day.

I agree, but in our system, legislators can override the decision of the voting public with no recourse. We've seen this with legislators in conservative states overriding ballot measures that passed during elections.

The fact is, in our system, we - the public - do not have the kind of power that other democratic societies enjoy. Our legislators have the kind of power that would allow them to override something like Brexit. We are all aware of this power, politicians promise to use that power to satisfy voters, and when they don't, voters respond by not showing up or by voting for the other side. It's a mess.

The reasons go well beyond Joe Biden, so in a sense America is failing the vast majority of its people. But the President is the face of America and in these types of polls of presidential approval, it’s largely a question of what you think of the present state of the country.

Lastly, even if one can come to terms with how sclerotic our system and how it’s unable to meet the moment, there’s just the matter of optics. Biden, Schumer, Pelosi, they don’t get publicly angry at how the system is failing America.

The apparent lack of urgency is unbelievable. They don't have to go low in action, but can they act like our political system is in crisis?

 

[mplsdunk]

Remove the filibuster
Pass the VRA
Give DC and PR statehood
Expand the supreme court
Institute a federal ban on gerrymandering

Those are results

this is what the whole thread was screaming when they got the trifecta.

now the energy seems to be more “it is what it is”

 

[Rootin4EverybodyBlack]

Dems ain’t gonna get anything done until the old guard dies or retires. It’s just that simple. A majority means nothing when you have a bunch of old people with old ideas who still, somehow, think Americans just want a return to “normal” and need to be convinced that “normal” was actually trash for a good portion of their base.

 

[gry60]

Can you imagine there's a universe where Kanye's fans don't know about "George Bush doesn't care about Black people" and we are living in it?

 

[mplsdunk]

Dems ain’t gonna get anything done until the old guard dies or retires. It’s just that simple. A majority means nothing when you have a bunch of old people with old ideas who still, somehow, think Americans just want a return to “normal” and need to be convinced that “normal” was actually trash for a good portion of their base.

I’m really going to have a tough time voting for anyone old.

my grandma was telling me how jersey mikes was hiring at 15 dollars an hour and how amazing that was.

nothing against her but when you’ve been out of the work force for 30 years and your house is paid off of course that seems good.

then I was like that’s who’s running the country.

 

[dinyc3st]

Soooo lock them up?

 

[IATT]

 

[gry60]

War on public education in Idaho causes businesses to rethink locating, expanding there, leaders say

The state ranks at or near the bottom in what it spends on K-12 students and has one of the nation’s worst graduation rates.

www.oregonlive.com

For preschoolers, lawmakers earlier this year rejected a $6 million early childhood learning federal grant from the Trump administration. One Republican lawmaker said he opposed anything making it easier for mothers to work outside the home.
Those actions have a chilling effect, business leaders say, that raise doubts about whether Idaho can produce a skilled workforce. It also causes potential employees to question the education opportunities for their children.

Boise-based computer chip maker Micron Technology, one of Idaho’s largest employers, earlier this month announced plans to build a 500-worker, memory design center in Georgia. The company is the nation’s second-largest semi-conductor maker, with product development sites in five other states and eight countries.

Micron Chief People Officer April Arnzen, in a statement to The Associated Press, said the Atlanta Design Center will give it an opportunity to attract technical talent from a large and diverse student population from the area’s strong university presence, which includes Emory University, Georgia Tech, Morehouse College, Spelman College and the University of Georgia.

Micron has significant ties at Boise State University with the Micron College of Business and Economics and the Micron Center for Materials Research. Arnzen said K-12 and higher education are critical components to the company’s success in Idaho.

“A well-funded educational system is essential to maintaining our workforce and necessary for our team members and their families,” Arnzen said. “Continued attacks on our universities and community colleges make it harder to develop an effective workforce pipeline.”

But the influential, libertarian Idaho Freedom Foundation sees it differently.

“Our public schools are grotesque, and adding more money is not going to solve the problem,” the group’s president, Wayne Hoffman, said during a speech in northern Idaho earlier this month. “The government should not be in the education business. They’re brainwashing our kids.”

He said his group worked hard in getting Republican lawmakers to cut the $2.5 million from universities earlier this year. He said he wants to cut $20 million from universities when the Legislature meets in early 2022.

Primary talking points in getting the cuts this year were objections to social diversity and critical race theory. Critical race theory is a way of thinking about America’s history through the lens of racism. Republican lawmakers accused universities of indoctrinating students.

I don't know whether to post this here or in the Fools wilding thread.

 

[had pants]