***Official Political Discussion Thread***

[gry60]

So a couple people disrupting a rally, is on the same level as an organized effort to suppress black voters.


This that what you're imp laying?

[thread="509493"]What do you mean by suppressing black voters? How would one even do that?[/thread]

How about you read the Politico article on the previous page?

 

[ninjahood]

So a couple people disrupting a rally, is on the same level as an organized effort to suppress black voters.

This that what you're implying?

@ a couple of people....

it was a Democratically sanctioned smear propaganda effort to make people who support Trump and to a lesser extent Donald himself as acrimonious to opposing voices.

Robert Creamer, da guy who got da hook has been linked to Hillary Clinton's Campaign manager Robert Mook.

Now you da FBI on that *** for not only da classified email trafficking on Huma's device, but now u got a completely separate investigation on da Clinton Foundation's seedy dealings in selling access.

that new WaPo/ABC poll...interal figures show da General public think she's a lying sack of ****.

u talking bout voter suppression when u Should be asking yourself about da lack of enthusiasm Hillary has...no one likes her b, she god awful and da fact that all she got right now is Alicia Machado tells me everything i need to know bout her panic levels.

 

[RustyShackleford]

 

[whywesteppin]

This is ridiculous. Numerous articles have been posted in the past day or so in this thread about voter intimidation. Trump and his campaign have not only fanned the flames by stating that the election is already rigged, they have openly and repeatedly called for their supporters to illegally monitor polling stations. And the government is trying to get them to stop: http://www.politico.com/blogs/under...c-trump-voter-fraud-pacts-judge-ruling-230578

And "miss me" with the bull **** argument that they're just enforcing the laws. The last thing we need is vigilantes trying to patrol the polling stations.

It's disgusting that the same side that swears to uphold the Constitution and the intention of the founding fathers as justification for everything they do are also at the same time spitting on the very foundations that this country was built on and that countless American patriots have died for. I really question if these people ever learned American history and have any appreciation for how America started. More and more, it's immigrants to this country who appreciate it. The deplorables are trash and are trying to trash our democracy. **** them.

 

[RustyShackleford]

So a couple people disrupting a rally, is on the same level as an organized effort to suppress black voters.

This that what you're implying?

@ a couple of people....

it was a Democratically sanctioned smear propaganda effort to make people who support Trump and to a lesser extent Donald himself as acrimonious to opposing voices.

Robert Creamer, da guy who got da hook has been linked to Hillary Clinton's Campaign manager Robert Mook.

Now you da FBI on that *** for not only da classified email trafficking on Huma's device, but now u got a completely separate investigation on da Clinton Foundation's seedy dealings in selling access.

that new WaPo/ABC poll...interal figures show da General public think she's a lying sack of ****.

u talking bout voter suppression when u Should be asking yourself about da lack of enthusiasm Hillary has...no one likes her b, she god awful and da fact that all she got right now is Alicia Machado tells me everything i need to know bout her panic levels.

So I should be worrying about lack of enthusiasm for the candidate I will be for voting for, over my people's civil rights be threaten.

With no due respect, miss me with that nonsense.

 

[noskey]

Ninja lost in the frot sauce again.

 

[sundoobie]

That is not evidence that Clinton specifically told her to get that info. As an active member of a political unit, Brazile has a vested interest in making sure that her party wins. If that means volunteering info that could help Clinton get an edge during the debate, then yeah anyone could see her doing that. It does NOT imply that Clinton sent her on a mission to get it.
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Volunteering? Have you read her emails to Podesta? It's called cheating, and it's unethical. Call a spade a spade for crying out loud instead of all these excuses.

Just like Lewandowskii... why is this idiot still on CNN with all the ties he has to Trump?

Can't believe anything these media conglomerates report on anymore. Too much bias and unethical people being paid on the side by these political parties for personal gain.

 

[RustyShackleford]

NInja's longest post in a minute, one filled with anger, and he could even say it is wrong people are planning intimidation against black voters.

 

[daddy style]

We currently have the coolest damned President ever, and now we gotta deal with this crap?! I mean really, if he had a senate and congress hip enough to work with him, MAN! This country would totally be the baddest country on the planet, but NO! White privilege gotta be the true religion in this country! This pisses me off so badly, because when you look at who he beat to get in the White House, my President was and is the best choice. John McCain and Palin? HA! Who was Mitt Romney's running mate again?! Top of your head, who was it?! The best won, and he wasn't white, and this is a big problem for white america. They would rather die, instead of doing the right thing for the world. Simply disgusting.

 

[RustyShackleford]

That is not evidence that Clinton specifically told her to get that info. As an active member of a political unit, Brazile has a vested interest in making sure that her party wins. If that means volunteering info that could help Clinton get an edge during the debate, then yeah anyone could see her doing that. It does NOT imply that Clinton sent her on a mission to get it.
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Volunteering? Have you read her emails to Podesta? It's called cheating, and it's unethical. Call a spade a spade for crying out loud instead of all these excuses.

Just like Lewandowskii... why is this idiot still on CNN with all the ties he has to Trump?

Can't believe anything these media conglomerates report on anymore. Too much bias and unethical people being paid on the side by these political parties for personal gain.

Nothing you said negates dude's point

 

[ninjahood]

nothing u said negates da cheating & colluding on da DNC's/ Clinton Campaign part either.

 

[jthagreat]

Do you have any evidence that Clinton sent her out there to grab that info? No.

she da ******* DNC chair now..gimme a ******* break

CNN FIRED her cuz she got caught red handed.

ninjah a deplorable to me, but he's correct on this.

 

[everysingletime]

I'm taking a day off in two weeks, on November 8. I think I need to be home, win or lose.

 

[RustyShackleford]

nothing u said negates da cheating & colluding on da DNC's/ Clinton Campaign part either.

And nothing you say negates the fact that white supremacist and white nationalist are riding for Trump, that Trump has pedaled nonsense about rigged elections, has encouraged his crowd to assault people, at his party systematically tries to disenfranchise black voters, and that a groups of racist idios that support Trump are planning to engage in some diet Jim Crow on Tuesday.

Yet, you seem so unwilling to at least concede that these things should not be happening; and will pedal conjecture, straw men arguments, and deflections to never have to do that.

 

[daddy style]

nothing u said negates da cheating & colluding on da DNC's/ Clinton Campaign part either.

Are you offended that you are supporting a candidate that is also endorsed by the Ku klux klan, and other white supremist groups? Do you think that they would want you as a friend?

 

[ninjahood]

that lying sack of donkey excrement is finished...no one believes her anymore

 

[Black Lotus]

dont matter 

 

[Belgium]

 

I know you're trolling or extremely ignorant but I'd love to see you and Ninja come up with some mental gymnastics to refute blatant voter suppression.

https://www.thenation.com/article/c...ause-students-lean-more-toward-the-democrats/

 
When polls closed at 8 pm, there were still 150 students waiting to vote. “Some people described it as chaos,” reported Ellery McCardle of the local ABC affiliate. “People were standing shoulder to shoulder, there was absolutely no room to move around in here.”

After the primary, leaders of eight different student groups—including the Republican, Democratic, and Libertarian parties and the Black Student Union—asked the city to put an early-voting location on campus to alleviate long lines. But city officials ignored the request and opened only one early-voting site  on September 26 for the entire city—the third-largest in Wisconsin—at the clerk’s office, a 15-minute drive from campus, which is open only during business hours. City Clerk Kris Teske, an appointee of Republican Mayor Jim Schmitt, a close ally of Governor Scott Walker, said the city didn’t have the money, time, or security to open an early-voting location on campus or anywhere else.

But privately Teske gave a different reason for opposing an early-voting site at UW–Green Bay, writing that student voting would benefit the Democratic Party. “UWGB is a polling location for students and residents on Election Day but I feel by asking for this to be the site for early voting is encouraging the students to vote more than benefiting the city as a whole,” she wrote on August 26 in an e-mail to David Buerger, counsel at the Wisconsin Ethics Commission. “I have heard it said that students lean more toward the democrats…. I have spoken with our Chief of Staff and others at City Hall and they agree that budget wise this isn’t going to happen. Do I have an argument about it being more of a benefit to the democrats?”

The e-mails were provided to The Nation  following an open-records request by the One Wisconsin Institute, which has successfully challenged early-voting cutbacks  in the state.

In 2014, Wisconsin’s Republican legislature eliminated early-voting hourson nights and weekends and restricted early-voting sites to one location per city. GOP State Senator Glenn Grothman, who’s now a member of Congress, cited extended early-voting hours in heavily Democratic cities like Madison and Milwaukee and said, “I want to nip this in the bud before too many other cities get on board.”

The early-voting cutbacks were overturned by a federal court  on July 29. “The court finds that the legislature specifically targeted large municipalities—Milwaukee in particular—intending to curtail minority voting,” wrote Federal District Court Judge James Peterson, who said Republicans were “suppressing the votes of reliably Democratic minority voters.”

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/20...-voting-problems-across-united-states-n673236

 
11/2 10:20 a.m.: Justice Department weighs in on case alleging North Carolina voter purge

The U.S. Department of Justice has filed a "statement of interest" favorable to the NAACP in a lawsuit filed by the civil rights group against North Carolina alleging an illegal purge of voter rolls.

The Justice Department statement, filed Tuesday night, doesn't explicitly argue in support of the NAACP's case. But it sets out a framework for interpreting federal voting law that would likely lead to a finding for the plaintiffs.

The NAACP alleges that three North Carolina counties are illegally removing voters from the rolls, in violation of the National Voter Registration Act, which bars systematic removals within 90 days of an election. The suit also offers evidence that the removals have disproportionately affected black voters.

North Carolina has said the removals are a legal form of list maintenance, because they're being done on an individual basis rather than systematically.

A hearing in the case was held Wednesday morning.

http://www.vox.com/2016/9/2/12774066/voter-id-laws-racist

 If there was any remaining doubt that North Carolina’s voting restrictions  — which require a photo ID to vote and limit early voting days — are about disenfranchising black people, recent comments by a top Republican consultant in the state should put that doubt to rest

Longtime Republican consultant Carter Wrenn, a fixture in North Carolina politics, said the GOP’s voter fraud argument is nothing more than an excuse.

“Of course it’s political. Why else would you do it?” he said, explaining that Republicans, like any political party, want to protect their majority. While GOP lawmakers might have passed the law to suppress some voters, Wrenn said, that does not mean it was racist.

“Look, if African Americans voted overwhelmingly Republican, they would have kept early voting right where it was,” Wrenn said. “It wasn’t about discriminating against African Americans. They just ended up in the middle of it because they vote Democrat."

At the same time, studies show that voting restrictions are more likely to hurt black voters. One widely cited 2006 study  by the Brennan Center for Justice found voter ID laws, for instance, disproportionately impacted eligible black voters: 25 percent of black voting-age citizens did not have a government-issued photo ID, compared with 8 percent of white voting-age citizens.

These are the facts that led Fourth Circuit Court Judge Diana Gribbon Motz to strike downseveral restrictions in North Carolina’s law in July, concluding that it “target[ed] African-Americans with almost surgical precision.” Wrenn’s comments confirm Motz’s findings.

http://www.vox.com/2015/8/6/9106055/north-carolina-voting-rights

 
The latest battleground in this debate: North Carolina. Civil rights groups, joined by the US Department of Justice, are challenging a 2013 North Carolina law that requires a photo ID for all residents to vote, eliminated some early voting days, ended same-day voter registration and out-of-precinct voting, and stopped the preregistration of 16- and 17-year-olds in the state.

In July, the US Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals ruled against North Carolina's law, overturning a lower court decision  that had ruled in favor of the legislation. The court was unambiguous in its ruling: It found that North Carolina's law "target[ed] African-Americans with almost surgical precision."

Then, on Wednesday, an evenly split US Supreme Court refused  to reinstate the voting restrictions, particularly the photo ID requirement and early-voting limitations, after the Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals struck them down — potentially leaving the restrictions out of the upcoming election.

 

[Master Zik]

If Trump wins we all got bigger problems than Ninja

So much this.

What's wrong with you, Tebow?

Son probably secretly posting from Belize.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slat...om_a_campaign_rally_after_trump_mistakes.html

C.J. Cary really loves Donald Trump. He has loved him for years, and he really wants him to be president. On Wednesday night, the 63-year-old came to a Trump rally in Kinston, North Carolina, determined to pass his candidate a note of advice: stop being so offensive on the campaign trail to women, minorities, and people with disabilities, or else “lying Hillary” will defeat him.

According to the Charlotte Observer, Trump spotted Cary, wearing sunglasses and a bright red shirt, after he had made his way to about 30 feet from the stage and began waving his note in the air while shouting “Donald!”

Oh, did we mention Cary is black? He is.

Anyway, Trump mistook Cary for a protester. Trump addressed him directly from the podium: “We have a protester!” he said, as you can see in this video at the 11:53 mark. Trump then said this to Cary: “By the way, were you paid $1,500 to be a thug?”

Thug! Thug. $1,500. Thug.

Come get your mans who wouldn't even cosign you at one of his rallies Ninja...

This is said a lot but yall have to know by now ninja is not ride or die. He ain't leaving his shoe box to go support Donald in person. If pressed on that he'd make some excuse about having to make more pesos.

It's part of why he can ignore and dismiss those issues as da identity politics.

 

[dragicon]

 

I know you're trolling or extremely ignorant but I'd love to see you and Ninja come up with some mental gymnastics to refute blatant voter suppression.
https://www.thenation.com/article/c...ause-students-lean-more-toward-the-democrats/

Scott Walker has ruined a once great state... It is a travesty with what he has done to Wisconsin.

 

[daddy style]

that lying sack of donkey excrement is finished...no one believes her anymore

So your choice is to side people who would want your right to full citizenship to be revoked?

 

[ninjahood]

dont matter 

Obama's in North Carolina desperately trying to trigger turnout ...

da blood is in da water... Hillary better lie up a new scandal for da Donald...

 

[leavemeglazzies]

 @ supporter of The Bigot calling Hillary a liar..

 

[daddy style]

I am certain that if I ever see boris epshtyen in person, I am going to up, and then punch him square in the face. Some things are worth going to jail for. My ancestors wont be mad at me for that one.

 

[deleted]

Church burnings
KKK endorsements
Trampling the rights of minorities

I guess that's what "make America great again" really means

I have no respect for any Trump supporter at this point. **** them all.