***Official Political Discussion Thread***

[Public Enemy]

listening to his interviews on this book, it feels like when conservatives complain about the "mainstream media" and ignore the fact that fox news is the biggest cable news channel, Daily Wire is the biggest political news website, on facebook Elon Musk owns twitter ect.


this idea that there is a shortage of "isreal is bad content" I think true maybe a few years ago.

It's def not true today.

Did you watch/listen to the video?

 

[niketalker23]

osh kosh bosh bro, what democrat hurt you?

 

[osh kosh bosh]

Did you watch/listen to the video?

Yup, the entire thing.

 

[finessence]

they are are making cultural appeals, not policy appeals,

hence the appearances on Theo Von, Adin Ross, Flagrant Podcast, Nelk boys ect...

…. So the typical frat boy looking American

So just blindly support “cultural appeals” and ignore policy appeals, because the Democrats are purposely not mentioning “men”?.

I guess since Donald Trump is a liar and scammer, that’s what makes him and the Republicans so “culturally appealing”? Basically admitting that they’ve been crooks and always will be

 

[finessence]

Asking a rapist (Charlemagne), to pose that question…

 

[jape]

 

[Fozz]

I may be out of the loop but I’m not aware of any Trump policies that solely benefit young men.

No, you're in the loop with the rest of America. He hasn't presented any viable plan other than insulting the VP and throwing out random numbers about tarrifs.

 

[Public Enemy]

 

[Armada]

I'm only half way through this but it's very thought provoking, and in some ways I hadn't thought about and thought through. Very good so far, 33 minutes in.

Been watching off and on the last couple days finished it today. Love this discussion they had and Coates explaining his reexamining of Palestine and the Israeli government. I love they actually got to talk about the other content in the book as well which has rarely been touched on in the other interviews.

 

[osh kosh bosh]

osh kosh bosh bro, what democrat hurt you?

huh?

 

[osh kosh bosh]

…. So the typical frat boy looking American

So just blindly support “cultural appeals” and ignore policy appeals, because the Democrats are purposely not mentioning “men”?.

I guess since Donald Trump is a liar and scammer, that’s what makes him and the Republicans so “culturally appealing”? Basically admitting that they’ve been crooks and always will be

yah voters are weird like that.

voters have a mishmash of views and vote in ways that don't correspond to them.

 

[Public Enemy]

Been watching off and on the last couple days finished it today. Love this discussion they had and Coates explaining his reexamining of Palestine and the Israeli government. I love they actually got to talk about the other content in the book as well which has rarely been touched on in the other interviews.

Right? Yes it's been illuminating. I love the parallels they explore and the examinations of your own beliefs, ideas and morals that it engenders. Noah's insights with his unique experiences and the things he asked people about are priceless as well. Like actually priceless. Glad you watched. Its good to talk through the content.

 

[Cashflow]

 

[osh kosh bosh]

There doesn't seem to be much evidence that calling them "weird" worked.

Is Calling Republicans "Weird" our Best Message?

MAGA Republicans are super weird, but the voters already know that

www.messageboxnews.com

 

[pmatic]

 

[dacomeup]

I'm only half way through this but it's very thought provoking, and in some ways I hadn't thought about and thought through. Very good so far, 33 minutes in.

I’ve listened to a few of his book run interviews and this one was the best one. Ezra Klein one was good too.

 

[dacomeup]

listening to his interviews on this book, it feels like when conservatives complain about the "mainstream media" and ignore the fact that fox news is the biggest cable news channel, Daily Wire is the biggest political news website, on facebook Elon Musk owns twitter ect.


this idea that there is a shortage of "isreal is bad content" I think true maybe a few years ago.

It's def not true today.

I mean, he’s talking about like The Atlantic and NYT types, which is definitely still true. His broader point about their being no Palestinian voices on these networks/writing for these publications during this time also holds true. One network was flat out banning Palestinians from appearing on air.

 

[Public Enemy]

It's unreal. Politicians of all kinds get around direct responses to questions, but after all the scrutiny of this current presidential cycle, Trump is just ridiculous at giving non answers. Anyone voting for this guy or finding ways to excuse those who do, or playing the special snowflake don't be mean to me card, is dumb AF. Meaning you aren't as clever as you think and it's obvious what's driving it.

But mostly this guy is just a complete and utter tool. I hope at the very least the media finally reverses the trend and starts being the actual media again. Trump is a clown. Like Lebron said, TFG is a BUM

 

[Cashflow]

 

[yobyellav]

Crazy part is he’s always done this.

 

[osh kosh bosh]

I mean, he’s talking about like The Atlantic and NYT types, which is definitely still true. His broader point about their being no Palestinian voices on these networks/writing for these publications during this time also holds true.

But even in that very narrow slice of the media is that true?

Ezra Klein has had plenty of pro Palestinian voices on his podcast, even pro Hamas writer.



Like is NY Times lacking in pro Palestinian content?

 

[osh kosh bosh]

I think a lot of people have this idea that people have been tricked into supporting Israel.
and if you just really educated them and showed them the truth, they would suddenly be pro Palestinian.


I don't think this is true, I think American is a country with a large christian population, and a large jewish population

where world war ii and 9/11 still looms large in the minds of many people.

i think there is always going to be pretty strong support for Israel.


i haven't read the book but the Ezra Klein interview is good. he pushes Coates and asks him some tough questions, and tbh

TNC answers are pretty uncompelling to me.

 

[atlsfinest]

We really and truly are lost. A rich white man who went to the best private schools and was literally handed millions of dollars to start his businesses is relatable because he's been "screwed over" like black men.

 

[rexanglorum]

Burn

The tweet needs to say “…earlier, than usual.”

 

[TooOlfForThisIsh]

I have a prediction about where these kids were born…