***Official Political Discussion Thread***

[Rootin4EverybodyBlack]

So bizzare to hear Republicans sound like left wing Anti-GMO activists from the 2010s

Southern Europeans are poorer than the average American and they cannot afford highly delicious prosseced foods.

There is no magic seed oil free pasta that doesn't make you fat.

Food quality is like 1/3 of the issue. Americans are overworked and we live in neighborhoods that aren’t walkable. And if you do find a neighborhood that’s walkable AND relatively safe, chances are it costs a fortune to live there.

Add that to the fact we have terrible healthcare and people aren’t getting treated for issues that limit their mobility, you end up with a fatter population.

The irony is the “president” himself is obese. So what are we really talking about here

 

[osh kosh bosh]

Food quality is like 1/3 of the issue. Americans are overworked and we live in neighborhoods that aren’t walkable. And if you don’t find a neighborhood that’s walkable AND relatively safe, chances are it costs a fortune to live there.

Add that to the fact we have terrible healthcare and people aren’t getting treated for issues that limit their mobility you end up with a fatter population.

The irony is the “president” himself is obese. So what are we really talking about here

All this stuff doesn't help, but you aren't walking off 1000 calories of cookies.

The reality is we have tons of highly delicious food that you can eat in large quantities and not get full.

Like Canadians have similar unwalakable neighborhoods and we are a not quite as fat mostly because we have less money.



The human animal is just not built for this.

 

[RustyShackleford]

every time I argue about this stuff, and Ozempic it feels like people are more interested in thinness being a high status signifier, and a display of morals, discipline and self control....

than they are concerned with improving the health of their fellow citizen.

-My two main concerns about the drug is its scarcity that makes it difficult for some diabetes patients to get a hold of them

The fact they are very expensive, so they are costing out healthcare programs a ton

And the solutions to both those things is for more production.

-I haven't had any arguments on here about it but in the real world I find people moralizing about their use kinda weird

Like society is concern about obesity. Society is generally hostile to overweight people. And then we look down on people because they choose to lose weight in certain ways.

I think maybe people feel that it is a zero sum game. That being cool with GLP-1 use means we stop telling people to eat good and exercise. When no one is saying that.

 

[earldagoat]

 

[biggie62]

-My two main concerns about the drug is its scarcity that makes it difficult for some diabetes patients to get a hold of them

The fact they are very expensive, so they are costing out healthcare programs a ton

And the solutions to both those things is for more production.

-I haven't had any arguments on here about it but in the real world I find people moralizing about their use kinda weird

Like society is concern about obesity. Society is generally hostile to overweight people. And then we look down on people because they choose to lose weight in certain ways.

I think maybe people feel that it is a zero sum game. That being cool with GLP-1 use means we stop telling people to eat good and exercise. When no one is saying that.

I don’t try to moralize the use. I’m just more afraid of the long term side effects of use. It really doesn’t change peoples habits unless they continue taking it forever and that’s what needs to be changed. As long as the kids menu is nuggets and fries you aren’t changing anything. My mom would never let me order off the kids menu.

 

[Belgium]

-My two main concerns about the drug is its scarcity that makes it difficult for some diabetes patients to get a hold of them

The fact they are very expensive, so they are costing out healthcare programs a ton

And the solutions to both those things is for more production.

-I haven't had any arguments on here about it but in the real world I find people moralizing about their use kinda weird

Like society is concern about obesity. Society is generally hostile to overweight people. And then we look down on people because they choose to lose weight in certain ways.

I think maybe people feel that it is a zero sum game. That being cool with GLP-1 use means we stop telling people to eat good and exercise. When no one is saying that.

As far as I know commercial use of Ozempic isn't common here (yet) but it's one of those drugs that's already pretty scarce by default. At least in the small rural area where I live.
I imagine it would be similar in smaller areas in other countries. Even my anti-epileptic meds (Keppra) are somewhat frequently unavailable for 2-3 weeks so my medicine cabinet basically looks like a pharmacy because I always gotta keep a 3 week emergency stash. And by unavailable I don't just mean at the local pharmacy but that the pharmacies are being told by their suppliers they don't have any left and new shipments will take about 3 weeks.

I think Ozempic is basically a miracle drug and commercial use should not be demonized whatsoever if we can solve the scarcity issue. Obviously the diabetes patients who actually need it should never have to come second to people who don't 'need' it but want a shortcut.

In my view it's kinda like a gastric bypass, though I view those very negatively. Does it help lose weight? Sure. But if a person's core behavior doesn't change, it's entirely worthless.
If it's not accompanied with serious behavior change, it'd be like going on a steroid cycle but quitting the gym afterwards.

 

[Dark Brandon]

This is my stance on RFK Jr. . He’s definitely right about some things regarding food/diet/health, it’s just that he has 3 bad takes to go along with each good take he has.

1/4 takes is agreeable. That means he has .250 batting average. That’s considered good in today’s MLB. No wonder people take a liking to this buffoon.

 

[datznasty]

the **** costs pennies and is easy to make.

The scarcity and cost is a Capitalism issue, Novo and Lilly have a patent not allowing anyone else to make it. You can, although it has been made more difficult and more expensive and therefore more risky, now, order it from China or domestic compounding pharmacies and Weight Loss Clinics and places Hims/Hers/JoinBliv/FellaHealth, even Noom now, literally just order the powder from China for nothing and add bac water to it and charge $600 a month cash only and can still advertise they are more than 50% cheaper than the name brand and easier/leas risky than ordering from a dude off reddit who you gotta contact via whatsapp and pay Western Union with black description and hope fort the best

 

[BranchLifestyle]

^those number are a bit skewed IMO. All those countries above the US have significantly less population.

 

[Belgium]

I will say that fast-food is relatively expensive here compared to an average homecooked meal.
I'd say they're probably about even, but homecooked meals are drastically more expensive if you want good ingredients instead of the average or bottom of the barrel.
No one goes to McD's for a 'cheap' meal, they go because they want fastfood or because it's relatively good drunk food.

That being said, I find commercial fastfood chains like McDonalds so unappetizing that there's really no reason for me to ever consider it. We have the Belgian fastfood tradition of "friteries" that are far higher quality than McDonalds etc but that also shows in the price. There's also a bit of a stigma against McDonalds etc compared to friteries because these commercial fastfood chains don't know how to make proper Belgian fries.

 

[pmatic]

 

[IATT]

 

[IATT]

They're telling everyone what time it is point blank , anyone still trying to bury their head in the sand or downplay/rational it is delusion

Majority of black people knew this was coming

But boy o boy some of these Jews learning real quick history has a funny way of coming back around, just because you believer you’re an accepted white that ain’t always the case to THEM folks

 

[Mark Antony]

Same reason I don't argue with pops. Man shut up, the time to be concerned about vaccines was 30 years ago when you made your babies take it.

 

[Mark Antony]

Majority of black people knew this was coming

But boy o boy some of these Jews learning real quick history has a funny way of coming back around, just because you believer you’re an accepted white that ain’t always the case to THEM folks

Yup. Interesting to see how it goes as juneteenth is a scheduled holiday at the moment.

Trump liked to take credit for that one too.

 

[RustyShackleford]

Imagining ruining your potential marriage, career, reputation,and life because you wanted this dude to blow your back out and couldn't handle he was playing hard to get.

Rich white woman buffoonery be reaching levels I only thought existed in fantasy novels

 

[Belgium]

So I checked our egg prices and I can get them for €2.79 for 6 eggs.
How do I ship these overseas

 

[IATT]

 

[solewoman]

Imagine a guy whose face looks like a spoiled russet potato, being the healthiest and most qualified individual to look after our healthcare.

 

[IATT]

Yup. Interesting to see how it goes as juneteenth is a scheduled holiday at the moment.

Trump liked to take credit for that one too.

As someone from the Bahamas and growing up doing swimming and track, which allowed me to travel throughout the Caribbean on different national teams.. I learned real quick how funny some of these people were with shh

Like the light skin stuff always been obvious.. or pretty eyes or curly hair stuff.. or how xenophobic we’d get about Haitians in spite of their historical significance for anyone black and especially caribbean black

But seeing the degree Dominicans or Puerto Ricans or Cubans will fight to deny blackness

Or just gotta watch any of these beloved mafia movies that really wasn’t that long ago to see how Italians were spoken of.. or just got back a little further to see how Irish or Catholics were spoken of.. or see how the Greeks were treated.. and that’s before you get to everything going on with whites and Asians

So I say all that to say, if you any a very select group of white.. I don’t get what lie you been telling yourself

 

[biggie62]

So I checked our egg prices and I can get them for €2.79 for 6 eggs.
How do I ship these overseas

Stockeggs.com. aepps20 is putting the platform together as we speak.

 

[jpzx]

“I don't want to take food away from anybody. If you like a cheeseburger, a McDonald's cheeseburger, a Diet Coke, which my boss loves, you should be able to get them."

 

[jpzx]

 

[ajiiiplatinum]

As far as I know commercial use of Ozempic isn't common here (yet) but it's one of those drugs that's already pretty scarce by default. At least in the small rural area where I live.
I imagine it would be similar in smaller areas in other countries. Even my anti-epileptic meds (Keppra) are somewhat frequently unavailable for 2-3 weeks so my medicine cabinet basically looks like a pharmacy because I always gotta keep a 3 week emergency stash. And by unavailable I don't just mean at the local pharmacy but that the pharmacies are being told by their suppliers they don't have any left and new shipments will take about 3 weeks.

I think Ozempic is basically a miracle drug and commercial use should not be demonized whatsoever if we can solve the scarcity issue. Obviously the diabetes patients who actually need it should never have to come second to people who don't 'need' it but want a shortcut.

In my view it's kinda like a gastric bypass, though I view those very negatively. Does it help lose weight? Sure. But if a person's core behavior doesn't change, it's entirely worthless.
If it's not accompanied with serious behavior change, it'd be like going on a steroid cycle but quitting the gym afterwards.

I dont know much about Ozempic but what I do know is that I like their ripoff/sample of 1970s Pilot song "Magic"

 

[mplsdunk]

Half my job is on ozempic and wegovy

“Ohhh my stomach hurts the wegovy!”

No dude it’s the monster and breakfast pizza more than likely.