***Official Political Discussion Thread***

[EddieDoyers]

NT liberals being blamed for Trump's policy making is a new one for sure
I guess it's our fault for the hiring freeze and dumb immigration stances that we don't even have the power to implement

 

[RustyShackleford]

Just finished talking to a Persian friend of mine who has dual citizenship between Canada and Iran and apparently dual citizens aren't gonna be allowed either...wtf is this **** man :x


Also seen this

@AriMelber: Whoa
DHS says WH denied them input on ban, now scrambling to implement

"Nobody has any idea what is going on," source tells @KenDilanianNBC

Homeland security is being frozen out huh...

Sounds like Bannon is taking the rings and getting his Cheney on behind the scenes implenting his shock doctrine

So someone could have been born in one of those 7 countries. Moved to Canada when they were a baby, and are now denied entry into the United States.

So asinine, and so disgusting.

 

[IATT]

Legit have to remind myself it's 2017 reading some of this stuff

 

[RustyShackleford]

I only attack ideas. Not people.

Anyway, I'm done.

It's back to politics.

Liar

 

[EddieDoyers]

Just finished talking to a Persian friend of mine who has dual citizenship between Canada and Iran and apparently dual citizens aren't gonna be allowed either...wtf is this **** man :x


Also seen this

@AriMelber: Whoa
DHS says WH denied them input on ban, now scrambling to implement

"Nobody has any idea what is going on," source tells @KenDilanianNBC

Homeland security is being frozen out huh...

Sounds like Bannon is taking the reins and getting his Cheney on behind the scenes implementing his shock doctrine

****** idiots this administration is

 

[RustyShackleford]

Legit have to remind myself it's 2017 reading some of this stuff

Remember Ninja's fan fiction about Canada and America just freezing Mexico out of NAFTA.

Well, Trudeau will never agree to such a ridiculous deal if some of his citizens and residents can't enter America.

The Bigot is causing his fans to rewrite their delusions on the fly

 

[IATT]

Must listen:

 

[RIP sleazyy]

I only attack ideas. Not people.

Anyway, I'm done.

It's back to politics.

Liberals are people Rico. Look at you not being accountable AGAIN.

Hiding your hands like you got caught taking cookies before dinner.

 

[gil23]

RICO being ignorant again?

Spoiler

not surprised

 

[Based Jesus]

NT liberals being blamed for Trump's policy making is a new one for sure
I guess it's our fault for the hiring freeze and dumb immigration stances that we don't even have the power to implement

Haven't you heard? This thread is famous! Of course it's influencing all these high level decisions.

 

[RustyShackleford]

All ISIS gotta do now is tell young men on the margin: "Look, we were right, they don't even want you in their country"

 

[Mark Antony]

This is tough to read

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/9b2d...n=SocialFlow&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=AP

CAIRO (AP) — The Latest on U.S. President Donald Trump and his ban on refugees from Muslim-majority countries (all times local):

8:30 p.m.

Iran's foreign ministry is suggesting the country will limit issuing visas to American tourists in retaliation for U.S. President Donald Trump's suspension of immigration and visas for nationals from Muslim countries including Iran.

The official IRNA news agency Sunday carried a statement by the Iranian foreign ministry that says Iran will resort to "counteraction" to Trump's executive order.

The statement says: "Iran, to defend the dignity of the great Iranian nation, will implement the principle of reciprocity until the removal of the insulting restriction against Iranian nationals."

The statement adds: "It will apply corresponding legal, consular and political actions."

The two countries have had no diplomatic relations since 1979 when militants stormed the U.S. embassy.

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8 p.m.

Cairo airport officials say five U.S.-bound Iraqi migrants from one family who have been prevented from boarding an EgyptAir flight to New York's JKF airport would return to Iraq.

They said the five will spend Saturday night at Cairo airport and leave for Irbil, capital of Iraq's Kurdish region, Sunday morning.

They added that the sixth U.S.-bound migrant, a Yemeni national, left the airport to return to Cairo, where he resides.

The officials said Saturday's action by the airport was the first since President Donald Trump imposed a three-month ban on refugees from seven Muslim-majority countries: Iraq, Syria, Iran, Sudan, Libya, Somalia and Yemen.

The officials said the six migrants, escorted by officials from the U.N. refugee agency, were stopped from boarding the plane after authorities at Cairo airport contacted their counterparts in JFK airport.

The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to brief the media.

(This story corrects the number of U.S.-bound Iraqi migrants to five, not six)

— Hamza Hendawi.

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7:05 p.m.

Dutch airline KLM says it has had to turn away seven would-be passengers because they would no longer have been accepted into the United States under President Donald Trump's ban on immigration from seven Muslim-majority nations.

Manel Vrijenhoek, at KLM's press office, said: "We would love to bring them there. That's not the problem. It's just that this is what the U.S. sprang on the rest of the world — that these people are no longer welcome."

She said the seven were due to fly with KLM from different airports around the world. Vrijenhoek said she had no specifics on their nationalities, although she confirmed they were from countries affected by the three-month immigration ban: Iraq, Syria, Iran, Sudan, Libya, Somalia and Yemen.

Trump signed the order Friday.

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6:40 p.m.

A U.S. federal law enforcement official says any non-U.S. citizen from Iraq, Syria, Iran, Sudan, Libya, Somalia or Yemen is now barred from entering the United States.

That covers legal permanent residents — green card holders — and visa-holders from those seven countries who are out of the United States after Friday, when President Donald Trump signed an executive order with the temporary ban. They cannot return to the U.S. for 90 days.

The official says there's an exemption for immigrants and legal permanent residents whose entry is in the U.S. national interest, but it's unclear how that exemption will be applied.

The official says visa and green card holders already in the U.S. will be allowed to stay.

The official wasn't authorized to publicly discuss the details of how Trump's order is being put in place and spoke only on condition of anonymity.

Customs and Border Protection is notifying airlines about passengers whose visas had been canceled or legal residents scheduled to fly back to the U.S., and the airlines are being told to keep them off those flights.

— Alicia Caldwell

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6:35 p.m.

Israel's leader has endorsed President Donald Trump's plan to build a wall along the Mexican border.

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu tweeted Saturday that Israel's wall along its border with Egypt has been successful in stopping a swell of African migrants.

"President Trump is right. I built a wall along Israel's southern border. It stopped all illegal immigration. Great success. Great idea," he wrote, with images of the Israeli and American flag.

The tweet marked a rare public foray for the Israeli leader into a charged American domestic affair. The two leaders spoke earlier this week and Netanyahu is planning to visit Trump in the White House next month.

After repeated clashes with President Obama, Netanyahu has high expectations for Trump, who has signaled he will take a kinder approach.

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5:45 p.m.

Malala Yousafzai, shot in the head by the Pakistani Taliban in 2012 to stop her campaigning for girls' education and co-winner of the 2014 Nobel peace prize, says she is heart-broken by U.S. President Donald Trump's ban on refugees from entering the United States for four months.

The order Friday suspends a program that saw around 85,000 people displaced by war, political oppression, hunger and religious prejudice resettled in the U.S. last year. Trump indefinitely blocked people fleeing Syria's civil war, and imposed a 90-day ban on U.S. entry from seven Muslim majority nations.

In a statement Saturday, Yousafzai implores Trump "not to turn his back on the world's most defenseless children and families."

Refugees and immigrants, she says, have "helped build your country."

Trump's mother was born in Scotland.

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5:15 p.m.

Qatar Airways is advising passengers bound for the United States from seven newly banned majority Muslim countries that they need to have either a U.S. green card or diplomatic visa to travel.

A statement on the company's website says: "Nationals of the following countries: Sudan, Libya, Somalia, Syria, Iran, Iraq, Yemen ... may travel to the U.S. only if they are in possession of a permanent resident card (Green card) or any of the below visas."

It listed foreign government, United Nations, international organization and NATO visas.

President Donald Trump has issued a 90-day ban on all entry to the U.S. from countries with terrorism concerns, including Syria, Iraq and Libya.

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3 p.m.

Cairo airport officials say seven U.S.-bound migrants — six from Iraq and one from Yemen — have been prevented from boarding an EgyptAir flight to New York's JFK airport.

The officials said the action Saturday by the airport was the first since President Donald Trump imposed a three-month ban on refugees from seven Muslim-majority countries: Iraq, Syria, Iran, Sudan, Libya, Somalia and Yemen.

The officials said the seven migrants, escorted by officials from the U.N. refugee agency, were stopped from boarding the plane after authorities at Cairo airport contacted their counterparts in JFK airport.

The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to brief the media.

— Hamza Hendawi.

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2:45 p.m.

The head of a leading refugee aid agency says President Donald Trump's decision to ban Syrian refugees hurts innocents fleeing violence.

Jan Egeland of the Norwegian Refugee Council tells The Associated Press on Saturday that Trump's decision "will not make America safer, it will make America smaller and meaner."

Trump on Friday suspended refugee admissions for four months and indefinitely banned those from war-torn Syria, pending program changes that are to ensure refugees won't harm national security.

Egeland says the decision dealt a "mortal blow" to the idea of international responsibility for those fleeing persecution. He says the U.S. is leading a "race to the bottom" in which politicians in wealth countries provide "zero moral leadership."

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1 p.m.

Iran's President Hassan Rouhani says the time has come for removing walls between nations rather that building new ones.

Rouhani did not name any particular country but his remarks come shortly after President Donald Trump's executive order Friday suspending all immigration and visa processes for nationals from a handful of countries with terrorism concerns, including Iran, for 90 days.

Rouhani said Saturday that, "It is not the day for creating distance among nations."

Speaking at a tourism conference broadcast on state TV, Rouhani said that those seeking to create such walls, "have forgotten that the Berlin Wall collapsed years ago."

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12:30 p.m.

The International Rescue Committee is calling President Donald Trump's suspension of the U.S. refugee resettlement program a "harmful and hasty" decision.

In a statement issued late Friday night after the suspension was announced, IRC President David Miliband said, "America must remain true to its core values. America must remain a beacon of hope."

The IRC statement declared that the U.S. vetting process for prospective refugees is already robust — involving biometric screening and up to 36 months of vetting by "12 to 15 government agencies."

Miliband praised The United States' record as a resettlement destination and said, "This is no time for America to turn its back on people ready to become patriotic Americans."

 

[deleted]

Remember when everyone was dissecting Trump's policy proposals and predicting how disastrous they would be and Rico would get his feathers ruffled and say "wait until he's inaugurated...give him a chance"?

 

[Mr.Guy]

ThinkProgress Verified account ‏@thinkprogress 34m34 minutes ago
[emoji]128514[/emoji][emoji]128514[/emoji] This never gets old
 



 



Hours after Trump signs #MuslimBan, Texas mosque goes up in flames http://thkpr.gs





"Make America great again"

at cats trying

 

[IATT]

 

[EddieDoyers]

All ISIS gotta do now is tell young men on the margin: "Look, we were right, they don't even want you in their country"

The military industry complex is licking its chops right now
Guaranteed we are going to be at war with the Middle East with boots on the ground soon whether trump or Pence is president

 

[AEA18]

Remember when everyone was dissecting Trump's policy proposals and predicting how disastrous they would be and Rico would get his feathers ruffled and say "wait until he's inaugurated...give him a chance"?

I member

Him and da ninja were basically having a contest of who could fellate defend him more.

 

[d nice]

My biggest fear for a recession is that Trump might fire off all the fiscal bullets in the gun before one hits.

Think about it, the most popular policies to fight a recession are cutting taxes, especially supply side (Republicans) or government spend, especially n infrastructure (Democrats).

*Actually Obama did both during the last recession. His stimulus was decent, but I had issues with it. Not really all his faulty though, mostly Blue Dogs*

Trump wants to do both right away just to get us over 3-4% growth. If we enter a recession after years of huge tax cuts and some kind of infrastructure spending (Trump infrastructure plan is horrible though) then I can't imagine things we would have to do to get out of that recession. We better hope that interest rates are relatively high at the time, and the recession is not too bad.

The economy grew by 1.6% last year. Wanting 3-4% growth is absolutely crazy, even impossible in this current climate. We don't have the population or the productivity to drive growth that would even see us reach 3%.

People seem to forget that we have a huge aging population that can't be easily replaced. And even if Dems wanted to spend on infrastructure, were at a point where the money required for a complete overhaul would result in trillions of dollars.

As it stands, it would take an estimated $3.6 trillion  to completely fix and maintain our infrastructure. Dems only want to invest a trillion. With the unforeseen trade wars that this president wants to get into, it's not telling how big that recession will be.

 

[EddieDoyers]

NT liberals being blamed for Trump's policy making is a new one for sure

I guess it's our fault for the hiring freeze and dumb immigration stances that we don't even have the power to implement

Haven't you heard? This thread is famous! Of course it's influencing all these high level decisions.

I didn't know we have that much power

 

[elpablo21]

but but but I thought Christians were a priority

 

[EddieDoyers]

My biggest fear for a recession is that Trump might fire off all the fiscal bullets in the gun before one hits.


Think about it, the most popular policies to fight a recession are cutting taxes, especially supply side (Republicans) or government spend, especially n infrastructure (Democrats).


*Actually Obama did both during the last recession. His stimulus was decent, but I had issues with it. Not really all his faulty though, mostly Blue Dogs*


Trump wants to do both right away just to get us over 3-4% growth. If we enter a recession after years of huge tax cuts and some kind of infrastructure spending (Trump infrastructure plan is horrible though) then I can't imagine things we would have to do to get out of that recession. We better hope that interest rates are relatively high at the time, and the recession is not too bad.

The economy grew by 1.6% last year. Wanting 3-4% growth is absolutely crazy, even impossible in this current climate. We don't have the population or the productivity to drive growth that would even see us reach 3%.

People seem to forget that we have a huge aging population that can't be easily replaced. And even if Dems wanted to spend on infrastructure, were at a point where the money required for a complete overhaul would result in trillions of dollars.

As it stands, it would take an estimated $3.6 trillion  to completely fix and maintain our infrastructure. Dems only want to invest a trillion. With the unforeseen trade wars that this president wants to get into, it's not telling how big that recession will be.

We would need to hire -gasp- more immigrants to achieve that type of GDP growth

America's dominance about to end soon because of this orange clown

 

[everysingletime]

So I'm reading that people that were entering the country as refugees were already going through an extreme vetting process - 2 years. I feel even worse now for whoever was on their way to the US during the signing and was turned away when they landed.

Imagine waiting for two years to get the green light. They green light you, and then when you touch down, they say nah you got to go back. Trump just signed a new order.

 

[IATT]

 

[Mark Antony]

The ISIS agents already INSIDE the country have all the ammo they need.

 

[EddieDoyers]

but but but I thought Christians were a priority

Liar in chief lying? Color me surprised