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it wasn't gonna be enough...for companies to average 54.5 MPG by 2020, hybrid & EV sales would've had to of been at least 20-30% of all vehicles sales, and V8 cars would've been scrapped or downsized with smaller less powerful engines. once gas got dumb cheap there was absolutely no way anyone was gonna buy expensive fuel sipping hybrids when more affordable bigger power cars & trucks are right there to be had. Customers voted with their wallets. u can't make people buy things they don't want.

Obama Administration rushed da midterm view of 2017 1 year early to spite da process...

When gas prices was approaching $5 dollars people were dumping V8's like they were going out of style.

Prices dropped because of the recession. Demand for oil fell off cliff.
 
it wasn't gonna be enough...for companies to average 54.5 MPG by 2020, hybrid & EV sales would've had to of been at least 20-30% of all vehicles sales, and V8 cars would've been scrapped or downsized with smaller less powerful engines. once gas got dumb cheap there was absolutely no way anyone was gonna buy expensive fuel sipping hybrids when more affordable bigger power cars & trucks are right there to be had. Customers voted with their wallets. u can't make people buy things they don't want.

Obama Administration rushed da midterm view of 2017 1 year early to spite da process...

When gas prices was approaching $5 dollars people were dumping V8's like they were going out of style.

Prices dropped because of the recession. Demand for oil fell off cliff.

da real reason it fell was Fracking...demand only slightly moved da needle over a bigger deflation trend in da economy.
 
Ima go ahead and blame Toretto.

Smh..

I've been into cars since I was a toddler. my family owned and operated a successful auto body repair and tire shop for almost 20 years..


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my father owned this when I was little.
 
da real reason it fell was Fracking...demand only slightly moved da needle over a bigger deflation trend in da economy.

Why are said fracking companies going broke then?

Saudi Arabia flooding da market with oil to make em go outta business ala Walmart effect.

Saudi Arabia didn't flood the market. We started producing more here and SA didn't reduce their output . In addition, the demand for petroleum produce went down with the increased adoption of alternative fuels and other sources of energy and the increased adoption of energy saving technologies.
 
da real reason it fell was Fracking...demand only slightly moved da needle over a bigger deflation trend in da economy.

Why are said fracking companies going broke then?

Saudi Arabia flooding da market with oil to make em go outta business ala Walmart effect.

Saudi Arabia didn't flood the market. We started producing more here and SA didn't reduce their output . In addition, the demand for petroleum produce went down with the increased adoption of alternative fuels and other sources of energy and the increased adoption of energy saving technologies.

uhh yeah it did, its pumping record amounts to secure it's market share now than Iran had its Oil sanctions lifted and Iran and da Saudis are obviously beefing by proxy.
 
the entire gas/oil/efficiency thing is a joke. I was working for chevy/nissan in 08. in 2008 we had a briefing about the Nissan leaf , chevy volt, and other vehicles that would employing new tech for high gas mileage. 2008.  The car was ready to drop already, we had one being delivered to the show room. Then it all got canceled and disappeared. Like it never even happened. The Leaf never came out till 2010. Volt didn't drop til 2011. Theyd been ready for YEARS. In the meetings we were talking about how hybrids don't even have a break even even point until multiple years after purchase. whole **** was a con from the beginning.
 
I was thinking how some of these small towns could compete with remote, outsourced IT jobs if they had the education and resources due their low COL.
 
Meth summed up some of "independent thought" personalities her perfectly:


Incidentally, I find it rather amazing that someone who will seemingly believe any fringe conspiracy nonsense can be so dismissive about racism and sexism. You think 9/11 was an inside job and Zionist, socialist shape-shifting reptilian reverse vampires control the media, but the consensus view of social science, the direct lived experience of the MAJORITY of Americans, and voluminously documented historical fact are somehow insufficient to "prove" the persistence of institutional racism or sexism in your mind. Stunning.
 
Patriots cursed by bradys relationship with trump- now that hes president

:rollin
 
I'm telling Yall evil has had its run Good will always eventually win out

These ****boys getting washed is a sign from the Gods
 
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i had a date today and y'all won't believe this ignorant **** here. She meant well but just had a poor way of communicating....this chick asked me this and i quote "So is your family affected by the wall?" how SWAY???
 
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