***Official Political Discussion Thread***

[rolaholic]

That was more of a comment on the discussion about caucuses in general than anything

Just weird how they're set up,like someone posted above,only 80k out of an estimated 470k registered voters actually went out and voted...if you feel there's nothing wrong with that and that the process is just peachy then I don't know what to tell you...

 

[rico x hood]

This country doesn't give a **** about voting it's across the board. I think 08 was the highest voter turn out in decades and it barely cracked 60% of registered voters.

 

[rolaholic]

Exactly and there's something seriously wrong with that when most of the country feels like they don't have a say anyway and just become apathetic towards the whole process. Another reason why the "get money out of politics" campaign finance reform message keeps getting hammered home...it's a real issue that's causing a ton of people to feel completely powerless when it comes to elections.

 

[rico x hood]

It's people'a civic duty to vote. If you want to sit home because you don't think your vote matters then that's your choice. But you have no right to complain. There's no excuse for apathy. And you shouldn't give them one.

 

[rolaholic]

You won't find me arguing against that,I'm always stressing the importance of actually getting out to vote to most people I know. There isn't but at this point it's become so far gone with the widespread feeling of apathy around the country that some changes to the process might be necessary. I don't need to give people excuses not to vote when they already feel like their vote isn't worth a damn .

 

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[RustyShackleford]

-Voting at all levels needs to made easier though.

-Put elections day on a weekend, make it a national holiday, polls open 24 hours, have early voting, mail in ballots, double the number of polling stations, especially in poorer neighborhoods, get id of voter ID laws.

Furthermore make the president be elected by popular vote, get rid of gerrymandering.

Money in politics is not major problem in politics IMO, it is furtive voter suppression.

I can accept conservatives winning any election, if there is high turnout in fair elections

-Get rid of caucuses. They keep it because of stupid tradition

I don't think they are keep around to suppress votes, but a primary system in infinity better system.

 

[deuce king]

I can't believe donald trump is really doing this.


Its kinda unbelievable.


Really says alot about the Republican Party

Fixed.

Agreed. Makes it even more important for the Democrats to get out the vote this year and take care of business.

 

[blco02]

Live stream of Trump in Atlanta

 

[RustyShackleford]

The flyer for that event probably read:

Trump speech starts at 1pm, refreshments at 2pm, KKK rally kicks off at 3.

 

[Armada]

Hmm I though there was a little extra intolerance in the air today down here...that explains it.

 

[cl-1b]

not a big Trump fan but he knows how to give a hell of a speech... he will deff **** on Bern face to face 

 

[deleted]

not a big Trump fan but he knows how to give a hell of a speech... he will deff **** on Bern face to face 

He speaks in nothing but sentence fragments and constantly meanders from subject to subject without an ounce of continuity

 

[cl-1b]

He speaks in nothing but sentence fragments and constantly meanders from subject to subject without an ounce of continuity

pretty irrelevant because of his energy level... i want to fall asleep when i hear sanders speak 

 

[Armada]

Energy level is not more important than actually substance.

 

[deleted]

Energy level is not more important than actually substance.

Exactly

Kudos to Trump for being loud I guess

 

[cl-1b]

there is no way Bernie Sanders can make more money then trump. Smart man in regards to trade and foreign policy.. not that i agree with everything he says, but i believe he can get us back in the black and out of the red. 

 

[Belgium]

 
there is no way Bernie Sanders can make more money then trump. Smart man in regards to trade and foreign policy.. not that i agree with everything he says, but i believe he can get us back in the black and out of the red. 

Do you have any idea of the disastrous effect Trump being president would have on foreign relations?

The rest of the world hates him. 

 

[Armada]

Being a "good" businessman (and I put good in quotes because he has had a lot of projects fail and when you start of rich with a lot of disposable income it's pretty easy to keep failing until you get it right for once) does not mean you would be a good president when it comes to trade and foreign policy or at all for that matter.

 

[cl-1b]

 
Do you have any idea of the disastrous effect Trump being president would have on foreign relations?

The rest of the world hates him. 

This isn't friendship its politics and business. 

Being a "good" businessman (and I put good in quotes because he has had a lot of projects fail and when you start of rich with a lot of disposable income it's pretty easy to keep failing until you get it right for once) does not mean you would be a good president when it comes to trade and foreign policy or at all for that matter.

I don't care if "some" of his projects fail or not. When your a serial entrepreneur every venture will not be successful. He started with 1 million and is at a net worth of 4 billion now, numbers don't lie. He knows how to make cash and we're down 20 trillion of it right now. That's priority 1. 

 

[Armada]

Again being a successful businesseman does not mean you would be a good president at all its two different worlds.

 

[illmatic34]

I'm pretty worried the next president of our country will be Republican :x

 

[slighted]

I'm pretty worried the next president of our country will be Republican

You have nothing to worry about. Democrats have a stranglehold on the next 50 years of the US, good or bad.

 

[Belgium]

 
This isn't friendship its politics and business. 

I don't care if "some" of his projects fail or not. When your a serial entrepreneur every venture will not be successful. He started with 1 million and is at a net worth of 4 billion now, numbers don't lie. He knows how to make cash and we're down 20 trillion of it right now. That's priority 1. 

Trump has been slammed for his statements and actions by many worldleaders across the globe. There's even multiple countries that want to ban him from entering their country, the UK for example. His anti-muslim rhetoric has already pissed off the middle-east. And he's not even president yet.

The worldwide outrage would only grow larger if he were to become president.

You don't think that would affect foreign politics and business?

Sidenote: Finally caught up to watching all the democratic debates. Definitely feeling the bern.

I think it's in my best interest as a European that a democrat wins. I would prefer Bernie but I think they'd both do a good job when it comes to foreign relations/business.

 

[kdawg]

This isn't friendship its politics and business. 

Being a "good" businessman (and I put good in quotes because he has had a lot of projects fail and when you start of rich with a lot of disposable income it's pretty easy to keep failing until you get it right for once) does not mean you would be a good president when it comes to trade and foreign policy or at all for that matter.

I don't care if "some" of his projects fail or not. When your a serial entrepreneur every venture will not be successful. He started with 1 million and is at a net worth of 4 billion now, numbers don't lie. He knows how to make cash and we're down 20 trillion of it right now. That's priority 1. 

This also isn't business - it's people's lives.

A better example would be looking at the employees of Trump's businesses - did he treat them well? Were they fairly paid?

Making money for himself isn't a harbinger of prosperity for all - in fact, it probably bodes better for big business and screwing over everyone else - and that's everyone else, just because you might make $100k in the future doesn't mean you'd be better off under a Republican president, that's poverty level to their thinking.