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Ya, I'm gonna need an American to tell me that.
I don't think a pun is that serious :lol: You may recall the Bush era in which "freedom fries" was actually a thing for some time. A republican chairman of some congressional committee (forgot which) renamed french fries to "freedom fries" in a few congressional cafeterias. This was in response to France's opposition to the Iraq war. It gained a bit of traction at the time.
Edit: And technically the term french fries isn't really correct either way. Whether France or Belgium invented them is a contested piece of history. I'm biased of course but given how deeply engrained fries are into our culture and the quality of our fries compared to France, it doesn't seem very likely to me that they were in fact the ones who invented them.
 
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They the waffles are :pimp:.

Leonidas are the chocolates right? I had Belgium chocolate a couple times, didn't know the brand, but they were pure crack.

Shout out to them for Speculoos too
Y'all got speculaas/speculoos over there? :wow:
I thought we mostly exported speculaas to some of our surrounding countries like Germany. There's a large Lotus (huge corporation that produces mass amounts of speculaas) in the town next to the one I live in. Depending on the wind direction, you can smell that speculaas from miles away. It occasionally reaches my house if there's a very strong wind in my direction, which is about 5km from the factory or so.
Leonidas produces regular chocolate and pralines. Tbh I'm not a huge fan of chocolate but them pralines are delicious.
 
Ninja, I have to point out that ceteris paribus, all other variables being equal, being black caused a borrower to have higher interest rate.

if you're applying for subprime mortgages, your credit was bad and you were lured into a predatory loan, thats not exclusively a race issue.

Black borrowers with equal income, credit scores and down payments would be assigned a slightly higher rate then white folks with the same qualification.

don't companies calculate interest rates based on average of past generic person of same background/income/age/etc. seems to me alot of those algorithms baked themselves based on previous history, once again i wouldn't attribute that to race in da contemporary era, historical evidence suggests redlining, and other discouragement tools were used, but now? i ain't convinced its a race issue.

Furthermore, all things were rarely equal and white folks tended to have better qualifications because they were more likely to have had middle and upper class parents and grandparents. Higher credit scores, it is easy to have higher credit score when mom and da can help you pay off your $500 limit credit card in college. Other debt, white folks are less likely to have to borrow as much money to go to school or to bu ya car as black folks. White people tend to have better job opportunities after college because most jobs are secured through personal and professional networks, the character of which hinges on your parents' networks.

i mean im da son of a 1st generation immigrant, that "generic white person" applies to anyone who's been hear longer than my family, including middle/upper middle/upper class minorities who's been here longer to take advantage of networks, and get a head start in building wealth...once again i wouldn't put that on a racial category either, more like early to bed, early to rise.

The white privilege denial says "look, most white people are not extremely wealthy so white privilege must not be real." To that, I say, the breadth of white privilege is the middle and upper middle class Irish, Italian or Jewish American family that has now enjoyed three or four generations of full whiteness,

i cant trip off something i have no control over, this doesn't reek of privilege, those immigrant communities paid their dues before i was born and are being rewarded by going up da success ladder, hispanics are already doing this in droves in most likely a fraction of da time.

im speaking for myself, but da whole "white privilege" theory is just odious to me...seems derived from da politics of bitterness & resentment, class warfare if you will...

i don't quote jigga much but "what i eat dont make you ish" sound relevant here...just da way i was raised.
 
if you're applying for subprime mortgages, your credit was bad and you were lured into a predatory loan, thats not exclusively a race issue.



don't companies calculate interest rates based on average of past generic person of same background/income/age/etc. seems to me alot of those algorithms baked themselves based on previous history, once again i wouldn't attribute that to race in da contemporary era, historical evidence suggests redlining, and other discouragement tools were used, but now? i ain't convinced its a race issue.



i mean im da son of a 1st generation immigrant, that "generic white person" applies to anyone who's been hear longer than my family, including middle/upper middle/upper class minorities who's been here longer to take advantage of networks, and get a head start in building wealth...once again i wouldn't put that on a racial category either, more like early to bed, early to rise.



i cant trip off something i have no control over, this doesn't reek of privilege, those immigrant communities paid their dues before i was born and are being rewarded by going up da success ladder, hispanics are already doing this in droves in most likely a fraction of da time.

im speaking for myself, but da whole "white privilege" theory is just odious to me...seems derived from da politics of bitterness & resentment, class warfare if you will...

i don't quote jigga much but "what i eat dont make you ish" sound relevant here...just da way i was raised.
Dominicans are one of the poorest Latino groups though in the nation. Y’all lag way behind Mexicans. A lot of Latinos live in the hood with Blacks.
 
That boy Kush's name is real hot in these e-streets rn for Monday
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Y'all got speculaas/speculoos over there? :wow:
I thought we mostly exported speculaas to some of our surrounding countries like Germany. There's a large Lotus (huge corporation that produces mass amounts of speculaas) in the town next to the one I live in. Depending on the wind direction, you can smell that speculaas from miles away. It occasionally reaches my house if there's a very strong wind in my direction, which is about 5km from the factory or so.
Leonidas produces regular chocolate and pralines. Tbh I'm not a huge fan of chocolate but them pralines are delicious.

Not only do we have dem cookies, they found a way to make it into a spread.......

https://www.traderjoes.com/fearless-flyer/article/561

After we finally get a grip of this opioid problem, the Cookie butter epidemic finna kick off.
 
In about 2012, 2013, 2014 or so, as it dawned on my how pervasive white supremacy really was, I did feel nervous about admitting my new perspective to people of color and long time white allies to people of color. I was thinking "how could I be this stupid and all these people who were just born knowing about every single method of oppression will laugh at me." My anxiety was relieved when I read and heard accounts from men of color about how they used to be complicit in patriarchy.

While there is no excuse for supporting either white supremacy or patriarchy, I felt a little relieved, on a personal, and I was reminded that privilege often times is invisible to its beneficiaries. When someone as brilliant as Ta-Nehisi Coates can repeatedly admit that he used to be complicit in a system that plundered the female body and Coates is still loved and admired, it made me less scared to admit that I used to be complicit in a system that plundered non white bodies.


As far as your academic aspirations are concerned, good for you. I am sure you get advice from others but I feel obligated to offer up some more. The main thing is that you should cultivate as many relationships as possible with your professors. When students come to my office and it is not a desperate bid to add the class, get an extension on a deadline or to get a grade that they do not deserve, I love to talk with them.

In the short run, talking to your professors, in office hours, can help you find new and better summer reading and academic seminars. More long-term, your professors, especially well established and tenured professors, can open a lot of doors to quality internships, jobs and law and grad school opportunities.

I feel exactly what you mean, as a black man I always figured racism was engrained in American Society and the more I learned about how deeply racism is engrained it didn't really shock me because of my experiences. But when I began to learn how deeply engrained sexism was/is in society it did shock me because for the first time I realized that in this aspect of my life the shoe was on the other foot it was a tough pill to swallow and I felt foolish for not seeing it sooner just like you did for not seeing how deeply engrained white supremacy was/is. Making those connections on intersectionalities really opened my eyes and helped me understand now being able to see those parallels between the experience of disparaged groups. It can bridge the gap of understanding to those that don't recognize their unearned privilege.

And thank you for the advice i'll take it to heart.
 
Not defending cruz at all, **** him. But at least he from the area, and not like that ******* slob chris christie repping the ******* cowboys.
 
Not only do we have dem cookies, they found a way to make it into a spread.......

https://www.traderjoes.com/fearless-flyer/article/561

After we finally get a grip of this opioid problem, the Cookie butter epidemic finna kick off.
This surprises me. That's dope though :pimp:
The way speculaas paste as we call it here actually came into fruition was through an invention show on one of our major channels. 2 separate contestants came up with a speculaas paste formula.
One of them already had a patent on his formula but he ended up ranking lower in the competition than the other contestant who made it to the semi-finals. While the paste didn't end up winning the show, the program brought a lot of attention to it and the prime manufacturer of speculaas and various other cookies jumped on it and patented their own version. This ended up selling like crazy and was turning big profits for the company. Others sued them though and eventually the Lotus patent was dismissed in court in 2011 on the basis that the company did not come up with the idea themselves and that it was not a new invention when they got their patent. Lotus is still the prime manufacturer however and the removal of their patent really hasn't made a dent in their profits. It still sells very well.

I didn't even expect speculaas cookies being in the US, much less the paste version. Or cookie butter, however you want to name it.
 
The Trump administration appears to be moving forward with the Russia sanctions bill.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...abb0f1e9ffb_story.html?utm_term=.ebd8dfe64d55
Trump administration reveals new list of potential Russia sanctions
https://www.state.gov/t/isn/caatsa/275116.htm
The State Department on Friday listed 39 Russian companies and government organizations tied to the defense and intelligence sectors, and warned that anyone in the United States or elsewhere doing significant business with them could be hit with sanctions starting early next year.

The list was a belated response to legislation, which President Trump reluctantly signed in August, giving him until Oct. 1 to produce a roster of targets for new sanctions. Designed to punish Moscow for its actions in Ukraine and its interference in the 2016 U.S. election, the bill was seen at the time as a way of forcing Trump’s hand.

The bill, which had broad bipartisan support, included new sanctions on Iran and North Korea.

The Russia list was published Friday on the State Department website, along with guidance for those who might be affected. The roster of targeted companies and agencies could have broad ramifications for U.S. and foreign entities that have dealings with them.

Special Counsel Robert S. Mueller III is investigating whether the Trump campaign coordinated with Russia to influence the 2016 presidential race.

Lawmakers from both parties offered tentative praise for the announcement, calling it a step in the right direction toward implementing the legislation.

In addition to Russia’s official intelligence and defense apparatus, the bill directed consideration of sanctions for parts of the country’s energy, mining, railway and shipping sectors. There were also provisions to sanction entities accused of corruption and human rights abuses.

Those that engage in “significant” transactions with the designated entities could face sanctions beginning Jan. 29.

A State Department official said in a background call with reporters Friday that “smaller-scale things” would probably not be met with sanctions and that the United States would take into account the circumstances of each transaction, such as whether it was meant to benefit an ally’s military capabilities.

“I would just reiterate that we’re going to look at all the circumstances for transactions that come up in the press or that we’re made aware of by other means,” said the official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity under rules set by the State Department.


Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov called the action “echoes of unfriendly signs, or more precisely, hostility against our country.”

Russian President Vladimir Putin, who last week angrily accused the United States of “dragging us back to the 1950s,” is following the news on sanctions “very closely,” Peskov said in a briefing for reporters in Moscow on Friday. Putin has been reluctant to criticize Trump directly, and Peskov referred to Putin’s remarks, in a speech last week, that Moscow would seek to make progress on bilateral relations “insofar as our American counterparts are ready for this and are willing to do this.”

“As far as we can see, this willingness is not so steady,” Peskov said.

Trump and his aides lobbied hard against the bill while it was being crafted. Their dispute centered on a provision requiring the president to seek congressional approval before scaling back any active sanctions against Russia. The administration lost that fight, but Trump signed the bill anyway.

But the measure still left it largely up to the administration to list which entities met the definitions laid out in the bill — a task the administration was to complete within 60 days. On Thursday, State Department spokeswoman Heather Nauert said that Secretary of State Rex Tillerson thought the matter was “complex” and that officials took time “to make sure we get it right.”

In a joint statement after Friday’s announcement, Sens. John McCain (R-Ariz.) and Benjamin L. Cardin (D-Md.) encouraged the State Department to “dedicate robust staffing and resources to the implementation effort,” saying they were troubled by recent reports that the department had closed its sanctions office.

The senators promised extra scrutiny to “closely examine how the administration decides to define ‘significant transaction.’ ” They added that they “stand ready, if appropriate and necessary,” to invoke the law’s congressional review provision and overrule Trump’s decisions if they do not live up to the expectations as Congress outlined them.

Sen. Bob Corker (R-Tenn.) also warned that Congress expected to be kept in the loop with “thorough and timely consultation” about how sanctions were being added, “until full implementation is complete.”

The list of affected organizations and companies includes “practically all of the major state-owned enterprises of Russia’s military-industrial complex,” according to Leonid Nersisyan, a military analyst and editor in chief of the Russian magazine New Defense Order Strategy.

But any new sanctions are “unlikely to harm most of the Russian defense industry sector,” Nersisyan said, because of existing partnerships with South Korea, China and other Asian countries.

Among the companies on the list is Rostec, a giant civil and military conglomerate that makes firearms, advanced optics, helicopters, communications systems, military trucks and more.

Rostec controls Rosoboronexport, also on the list, which manages the import and export of military equipment. Kalashnikov, the famed maker of assault rifles and other automatic weapons, is also listed.

A company that makes submarines, another that produces anti-aircraft missiles and launchers, and the makers of Sukhoi and Tupolev military and civilian aircraft are also on the list.

The list also includes the main entities of Russian intelligence: the Federal Security Service, the Foreign Intelligence Service and the Main Intelligence Directorate of the General Staff of the Russian Armed Forces.
 


How desperate is Weazel News now that Mueller is about to have someone in cuffs?

They have probes running and control all branches of government. If they want to lock her up, then prove her guilty and lock her up. I don't think they really want to lock her up though. It's not quite as easy to rile up the base with such great effect if the Clinton boogeyman is in prison. Politically, it serves them much better to use her as bait for the base. Investigations like the numerous Benghazi probes did not result in anything significant but it still worked out very well for the republicans either way.
 
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How desperate is Weazel News now that Mueller is about to have someone in cuffs?


Why all these black republican chicks be looking good? Making it hard for a brother out here.
And with all these fine black repubs Rusty still went with a white woman :smh: Rookie Rusty :smh:

Edit: I need new glasses :lol:
 
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Looks like Poland doesn't want Richard Spencer either :lol:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/oct/27/poland-to-richard-spencer-keep-out
Poland to white nationalist Richard Spencer: keep out
The American far-right leader plans to address an extremist rally in Warsaw next month, but the Polish foreign minister says ‘he should not appear publicly’
(link for rest of article)

Would be a great touch of karma if they end up banning him from entry like Hungary :lol:
 
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