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If you all have HBO, take a look at Vice News: Episode 267 (Jan. 8, 201
. One segment features Democratic Party and its influence in rural areas. It features Krystal Ball and People’s House Project training pursuing funding for candidates of the Democratic Party in rural towns. They follow her as she visits the third district of a small town in WV—cannot recall the name of the town—providing consulating for the local candidate.
I will not spoil it entirely for those intending to watch it ( I know there is a spoiler section) but here are my thoughts:
Thoughts?
. One segment features Democratic Party and its influence in rural areas. It features Krystal Ball and People’s House Project training pursuing funding for candidates of the Democratic Party in rural towns. They follow her as she visits the third district of a small town in WV—cannot recall the name of the town—providing consulating for the local candidate. I will not spoil it entirely for those intending to watch it ( I know there is a spoiler section) but here are my thoughts:
- I understand the underlying benefit of having more blue support in communities; more blue support in local towns theoretically means more support at higher levels (county, state, national), so I see the value
- The issue with my first thought is the rhetoric behind this movement from Ball. While she acknowledges, vaguely, the importance of female and minority votes, she dismisses it for present the rhetoric of the Old Democratic Party, or supporting the working class (seems to be a nice motto for both parties). The problem is the message comes across as another empowerment for white men and not for the American people, nonetheless, the Democratic Party. They are spewing the same Republican message while not truly focusing on fixing the problem within Democratic Party and its outreach (I am firm believer that
- Remember, Krystal was an advocate for the removal of Hilary off the 2016 ballot. This is clearly evident in the segment, and I ponder, “are we truly providing the accurate information to these individuals in rural areas on politics and its effect on them?”
Thoughts?
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Just as talks between both Korea's are starting up again
Hopefully........
What do we have to lose?
kdawg
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That’s brilliant.
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back at it...
http://www.latimes.com/business/hiltzik/la-fi-hiltzik-pfizer-20180108-story.html
Critical thinking is important. Giving rich people more money is probably not a good idea.
Critical thinking is important. Giving rich people more money is probably not a good idea.
John Wick
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no offense to the old people but these type of people who think like this need to fall off the planet already. Still living in the past.
Goes to show the MJ propaganda they were pushing back then really affected the minds of those old folks
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Welp, never attending a rally in my city again after having it called out by neo Nazi's in this ad. Does remind me I need to get a CCL just in case though.
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bipartisanship the florida way...
the hell...? the donald probably thinks this is a great idea...
the hell...? the donald probably thinks this is a great idea...
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Both sides of the aisle coming together
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If the Democratic Party selects Oprah or Zuckerberg or Mark Cuban, you can expect a mass exodus to the third parties. Most of us, who supported Bernie in 2016, voted for Clinton in the general. That is why Jill Stein got a very small share of the general electorate. That is why Hillary Clinton, in the general, got 83% of Sanders' primary voter support.
While we disagreed with Clinton, we knew that she was serious. In 2020, if we get Cory Booker or Kamala Harris in 2020, we leftists, will not be thrilled but most of us would support those candidates in the general.
You give us Oprah or Zuck or Mark Cuban many of us, who usually vote for Democrats, will have the green light to support, en masse, Green, independent and write in DSA candidates.
While we disagreed with Clinton, we knew that she was serious. In 2020, if we get Cory Booker or Kamala Harris in 2020, we leftists, will not be thrilled but most of us would support those candidates in the general.
You give us Oprah or Zuck or Mark Cuban many of us, who usually vote for Democrats, will have the green light to support, en masse, Green, independent and write in DSA candidates.
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Then bounce. Srs
There will be a primary, so if the "I don't get my way so I'm picking up my ball and leaving" is the move, then make it.
Prove liberals right and show minorities (who will not follow in mass) exactly how entitled you are.
Tired of this leftist petulence.
Peace.
There will be a primary, so if the "I don't get my way so I'm picking up my ball and leaving" is the move, then make it.
Prove liberals right and show minorities (who will not follow in mass) exactly how entitled you are.
Tired of this leftist petulence.
Peace.
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Furthermore...
Cuban already said he would run as a Republican
Zuckerberg on paper and in practice seems unable to form a reliable coalition. Unless he makes inroads with progressive voters
The only real threat out of three is Oprah.
And her path might be a dominant showing with the black vote.
So I'm not stupid. This argument implies that if black Democratic voters pick the rich black lady, the mainly white faction of the Democratic Party will leave and join other mainly white parties.
So I will strengthen my prior post. If they want to insure 4 more years of Trump and allow the minority members of the left to catch even more then; if that is how leftist feel, **** off, **** all the way and bounce.
Seriously.
Cuban already said he would run as a Republican
Zuckerberg on paper and in practice seems unable to form a reliable coalition. Unless he makes inroads with progressive voters
The only real threat out of three is Oprah.
And her path might be a dominant showing with the black vote.
So I'm not stupid. This argument implies that if black Democratic voters pick the rich black lady, the mainly white faction of the Democratic Party will leave and join other mainly white parties.
So I will strengthen my prior post. If they want to insure 4 more years of Trump and allow the minority members of the left to catch even more then; if that is how leftist feel, **** off, **** all the way and bounce.
Seriously.
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zuckerberg is a potential candidate?
aepps20
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Nothing brightens my day more than LIBBIE on LIBBIE conflict.
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If you pick someone with no experience or even a damn law degree to his or her name, we will know that you guys are not serious about economic or racial justice. Just having a black person as President won't help anyone. The left is supposed to care about politics as a profession, as serious undertaking to defend marginalized groups. The frivolity of nominating some with the same CV as Donald Trump will speak volumes.
Leftists will not take this seriously if the Democrat's core constituencies (black women and/or upper middle class professionals) refuse to take any of this seriously. We'll support whatever professional politician you guys can get nominated but no amateurs.
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Have we learned nothing from Alabama? Are we headed for the same mistakes being made in 2020? I hope not.
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Nothing brightens my day more than LIBBIE on LIBBIE conflict.
We don't have much punching power because we live on kale and raw water, although we do have brittle bones so we might still break eachother's libby bones.
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Then bounce.
There will be a primary, if you have such a problem with the choice black people make, then do yourself a favor and not have to deal with their opinions. Not like leftist candidates care to campaign in the South anyway.
Maybe the left could try getting behind a candidate that would actually put in the slightest of effort into attracting the black vote and spreading the message of economic justice, and Oprah would not be such a threat. If the best candidates the leftist can put forward is a former sws who pedals nostalgia politics, and a old man who can't speak on racial justice for ****, and whose hands are cover is white supremacy too, then maybe they should take some blame as why an amatuer snuck through the door.
And if leftist leave the Democratic Party, and allow the vote to split they will not only prove they were no serious about racial justice they also prove they are serious about economic justice and worker rights.
So please, by all means, proceed.
Better yet, join the GOP and try to deliver the left wing economics with white nationalism like the Rust Belt and Appalachian voters you guys covet over so badly.
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aepps20
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As long as you work off the jab in the early rounds NOTHING else matters. Also, I will be waiting in the rafters like Sting waiting to lay the winner out.
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There shouldn't just be 2 parties
I wish we had a Jedi party here
There's too many different viewpoints for anything to be decided by just two sides
Hopefully with Joe running, this is the end of the GOP
I wish we had a Jedi party here
There's too many different viewpoints for anything to be decided by just two sides
Hopefully with Joe running, this is the end of the GOP
